Kisame vs Gokage

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I was indeed just watching. Watching from my cellular. :cool:

Well, since you REALLY insist on me giving my input...

Gokage nearly stomp; unless Kisame manages to get out his water dome from match-start. Though, the starting distance is 15 meters, which allows Ay room to blitz Kisame right off the bat.

In the event that Ay reaches Kisame before he spews out the Water Dome; Gokage proceed to stomp.

In the event that Kisame performs the single hand seal required and spews out the Water Dome before Ay reaches him; Kisame stands a decent chance. And I don't feel like expanding on this, unless I have to.

But anywho... You know what would be an awesome fight? EDO Kisame Vs the Gokage.... and my money is on Kisame

>.>. Yes. I felt that you should not sit idly by on a thread such as this! And thanks for the opinion.

Edo Kisame stomps.... As in the words of Tobirama fans, Kisame Edition: Water Dome Spam, GG.
 

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Gokage rape kisame very very badly
 

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I say the Gokages. hmm
 

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Gaara and Ay solos.
Onoki + x Kage >> Kisame

All the 5 stomps him.
 
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I was indeed just watching. Watching from my cellular. :cool:

Well, since you REALLY insist on me giving my input...

Gokage nearly stomp; unless Kisame manages to get out his water dome from match-start. Though, the starting distance is 15 meters, which allows Ay room to blitz Kisame right off the bat.

In the event that Ay reaches Kisame before he spews out the Water Dome; Gokage proceed to stomp.

In the event that Kisame performs the single hand seal required and spews out the Water Dome before Ay reaches him; Kisame stands a decent chance. And I don't feel like expanding on this, unless I have to.

But anywho... You know what would be an awesome fight? EDO Kisame Vs the Gokage.... and my money is on Kisame

Ya i was thinking the distance kind of screwed him over ..along with Info .. Make this a 40 Meter fight and Kisame has a damn good chance of winning ..

Also Kisame basically is an Edo :p .. he can heal and he also has massive stamina lol
 

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Ya i was thinking the distance kind of screwed him over ..along with Info .. Make this a 40 Meter fight and Kisame has a damn good chance of winning ..

Also Kisame basically is an Edo :p .. he can heal and he also has massive stamina lol

Ehh, with a 40 meter starting distance, it's make it a lot more likely that Gaara and Onoki will be able to take flight and avoid the Water Dome. That spells game over for Kisame as well.

Haha, yeah; he's probably the closest shinobi to an Edo. But there are obviously limitations to his healing capabilities and stamina. An Edo Kisame will reform from any attack. And he'd likely flood the entire planet. That's way too OP. Kishi wouldn't want that happening, now would he. :cool:
 

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Ehh, with a 40 meter starting distance, it's make it a lot more likely that Gaara and Onoki will be able to take flight and avoid the Water Dome. That spells game over for Kisame as well.

Haha, yeah; he's probably the closest shinobi to an Edo. But there are obviously limitations to his healing capabilities and stamina. An Edo Kisame will reform from any attack. And he'd likely flood the entire planet. That's way too OP. Kishi wouldn't want that happening, now would he. :cool:

Lmao for real .. Although not neccasarily does them taking flight mean they win .. For one thing Jinton Is absorbed and Gaara's sand is not too great underwater .. Plus he can shoot GSB into the sky lol .. With his stamina imagine 5 of those just coming at you from the water.. appearing out of nowhere
 

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Hidan is the closest character to an Edo actually, his healing abilities are even greater than Kisame's and he's truly immortal, plus Samehada isn't absorbing lava or Katsuyu's acid, most Kages would solo Kisame
 

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Hidan is the closest character to an Edo actually, his healing abilities are even greater than Kisame's and he's truly immortal, plus Samehada isn't absorbing lava or Katsuyu's acid, most Kages would solo Kisame


U_U .. I agree about Hidans regeneration however NO kage's solo Kisame .. And it is absorbing the lava especially when merged .. although water should cool it down to earth
 

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Lmao for real .. Although not neccasarily does them taking flight mean they win .. For one thing Jinton Is absorbed and Gaara's sand is not too great underwater .. Plus he can shoot GSB into the sky lol .. With his stamina imagine 5 of those just coming at you from the water.. appearing out of nowhere

Well, I don't think Onoki will be firing off any Jinton in the WD, which holds 3 of his comrades. That would be foolish of him.

Meh, I guess it's possible. Still unlikely. But possible. But a sand tsunami of this caliber [ ] crashing down on the WD will probably cause it to disperse. Diminishing Kisames only chance of winning.
 

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U_U .. I agree about Hidans regeneration however NO kage's solo Kisame .. And it is absorbing the lava especially when merged .. although water should cool it down to earth

Ay chops his head off with ease..
Samehada could barely absorb a B rank fire jutsu what makes you think it could absorb lava?
 

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Kisame gets rofl stomped.
Oonoki could just start with Jinton. Which leaves Kisame as dust. For instance Jinton Box
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Samahada can't absorb the entire box.
Alternatively, let's say Ay speed blitzes and he and Tsunade do this.
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Let's say the while he is trying to spew out the lake Gaara just does this and stop him in his tracks.
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Mei's Lava Glob Jutsu would be bad for Kisame as he needs to stay in on spot to form the lake.
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And I doubt that Samahada is absorbing it, because it has mass. It's a mixture of Earth and Fire.... Samahada doesn't like fire, and has never been shown to absorb something like that. That would be like saying Samahada would absorb Oonoki's Rock Golem.

And with two taijutsu specialist pushing him in close range, Gaara pushing him with sand and Oonoki easily making him heavier so that it's harder for him to move out of the way of attack. He would go down so hard. He wouldn't have time to use ninjutsu.
And if he's durable enough to withstand more than one of Tsunade's attacks, that's a pretty big if, if he's slowed down her next attack would just be BPD. At which point the Gokage take turns beating his paralyzed body. Or If the Kages used their combo attack, the one they used against Madara, he's insta-screwed.
 

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Kisame gets rofl stomped.
Oonoki could just start with Jinton. Which leaves Kisame as dust. For instance Jinton Box
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Samahada can't absorb the entire box.
Alternatively, let's say Ay speed blitzes and he and Tsunade do this.
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Let's say the while he is trying to spew out the lake Gaara just does this and stop him in his tracks.
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Mei's Lava Glob Jutsu would be bad for Kisame as he needs to stay in on spot to form the lake.
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And I doubt that Samahada is absorbing it, because it has mass. It's a mixture of Earth and Fire.... Samahada doesn't like fire, and has never been shown to absorb something like that. That would be like saying Samahada would absorb Oonoki's Rock Golem.

And with two taijutsu specialist pushing him in close range, Gaara pushing him with sand and Oonoki easily making him heavier so that it's harder for him to move out of the way of attack. He would go down so hard. He wouldn't have time to use ninjutsu.
And if he's durable enough to withstand more than one of Tsunade's attacks, that's a pretty big if, if he's slowed down her next attack would just be BPD. At which point the Gokage take turns beating his paralyzed body. Or If the Kages used their combo attack, the one they used against Madara, he's insta-screwed.

Jinton gets absorbed ..yes the entire box its all chakra isn't it?

Tsunade's strength is CES So all Kisame need to do is hold up his Sword .. And Ay's can be tanked and healed from

How would grabbing feet .. mean he can not spew water from his mouth .. which then dissolves the sand anyways :|..

He also moves upward when he creates the lake which would avoid Mei's linear and slow lava jutsu

And does not liking something does not mena he wont being able to

And the bottom is based on the assumption that the top points actually work ..which they do not
 

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Jinton gets absorbed ..yes the entire box its all chakra isn't it?

Tsunade's strength is CES So all Kisame need to do is hold up his Sword .. And Ay's can be tanked and healed from

How would grabbing feet .. mean he can not spew water from his mouth .. which then dissolves the sand anyways :|..

He also moves upward when he creates the lake which would avoid Mei's linear and slow lava jutsu

And does not liking something does not mena he wont being able to

And the bottom is based on the assumption that the top points actually work ..which they do not
Um so you just have so many fails in this post. Such as Samahada having to touch to absorb and unless it's touching the whole box.... which it isn't. He dies....
The bulk of Tsunade's strength comes from natural strength. That should be overly apparent by now.
One of the qualities Tsunade is especially known for is her brute strength. Many would argue that she is not physically strong but it is nin-taijutsu which makes her strong or chakra enhanced strength. While it is true that we know, Tsunade can use chakra enhanced strength as she taught Sakura how to use such an ability.
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The majority of Tsunade’s strength however, comes from brute strength. How can we know this? In order to realize Tsunade’s natural strength we must look at a few forms of evidence. I will display the evidence in terms of strongest to weakest.
The first reason that we can know that the majority of Tsunade’s chakra comes from her base or natural strength relates back to part 1. According to Kabuto, he cut her Biceps Brachii and the Rectus Femoris muscles when he attacked Tsunade.
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His goal was to stop her from using her “enormous strength.” At this point, it is worth noting that both Orochimaru and Kabuto realized that one blow from Tsunade would mean death in the beginning of the fight. Yet, after her natural strength is taken away Kabuto is very much still alive after taking a blow. Which seems to suggest his scalpels did what they were supposed to do. Now, your reply may be, maybe she decided not to use her chakra enhanced strength and that is the reason that he lived. But that does not seem to work as the resulting force from her punch traveled down from his face down his body and to the ground cracking it in several places.
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This seems to suggest that she still packed a very hard punch. And chakra enhanced strength not killing him does not cause a plot hole because when Sakura used her strength against Zetsu she did not kill him.
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Essentially, a chakra explosion is created. Therefore, lifting and wielding large objects cannot be accomplished through Chakra Enhanced Strength. To get an idea of how heavy Gamabunta’s sword is we will see him use it against opponents near his size because Tsunade used it against an opponent his size. When used against Shukaku, Gamabunta said it was all I can do to complete the swing of my sword.
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Afterwards, he lost his sword because he did not have the strength to maintain grip of it. When used it against Manda, Gamabunta was unable to take the sword from Manda’s mouth
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Because we are now comparing the strength of Gamabunta and Tsunade, now would be the time for this tangent; to show that Gamabunta is not a weakling. He was powerful enough to hold down the Kyuubi for a short period of time.
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Tsunade however, despite being much smaller than Gamabunta was able to completely lift, grip, and maneuver his sword with perfect accuracy whilst jumping much higher than the height of Gamabunta (this will be discussed a little later).
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Because Chakra enhanced strength plays no role in this we can get a better idea of Tsunade’s brute strength.
So if Samahada tries to block Tsunade's punch it gets destroyed/ dies. Tsunade != Sakura

So your answer to lava jutsu is that because he moves up and Mei's Lava can move like a fountain coming from upward, it's a good idea to go upwards.
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Great idea because he obviously won't run into the lava that way. And none of their attacks are slow when they have you outnumbered.
Yes, because the sand grabs him by his feet and pulls him underground before he even gets a chance to create the fountain. And if he does manage to escape as he goes up, as you provided in your scan... he just became a bulls-eye for Oonoki.
 

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Um so you just have so many fails in this post. Such as Samahada having to touch to absorb and unless it's touching the whole box.... which it isn't. He dies....
The bulk of Tsunade's strength comes from natural strength. That should be overly apparent by now.
One of the qualities Tsunade is especially known for is her brute strength. Many would argue that she is not physically strong but it is nin-taijutsu which makes her strong or chakra enhanced strength. While it is true that we know, Tsunade can use chakra enhanced strength as she taught Sakura how to use such an ability.
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The majority of Tsunade’s strength however, comes from brute strength. How can we know this? In order to realize Tsunade’s natural strength we must look at a few forms of evidence. I will display the evidence in terms of strongest to weakest.
The first reason that we can know that the majority of Tsunade’s chakra comes from her base or natural strength relates back to part 1. According to Kabuto, he cut her Biceps Brachii and the Rectus Femoris muscles when he attacked Tsunade.
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His goal was to stop her from using her “enormous strength.” At this point, it is worth noting that both Orochimaru and Kabuto realized that one blow from Tsunade would mean death in the beginning of the fight. Yet, after her natural strength is taken away Kabuto is very much still alive after taking a blow. Which seems to suggest his scalpels did what they were supposed to do. Now, your reply may be, maybe she decided not to use her chakra enhanced strength and that is the reason that he lived. But that does not seem to work as the resulting force from her punch traveled down from his face down his body and to the ground cracking it in several places.
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This seems to suggest that she still packed a very hard punch. And chakra enhanced strength not killing him does not cause a plot hole because when Sakura used her strength against Zetsu she did not kill him.
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Essentially, a chakra explosion is created. Therefore, lifting and wielding large objects cannot be accomplished through Chakra Enhanced Strength. To get an idea of how heavy Gamabunta’s sword is we will see him use it against opponents near his size because Tsunade used it against an opponent his size. When used against Shukaku, Gamabunta said it was all I can do to complete the swing of my sword.
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Afterwards, he lost his sword because he did not have the strength to maintain grip of it. When used it against Manda, Gamabunta was unable to take the sword from Manda’s mouth
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Because we are now comparing the strength of Gamabunta and Tsunade, now would be the time for this tangent; to show that Gamabunta is not a weakling. He was powerful enough to hold down the Kyuubi for a short period of time.
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Tsunade however, despite being much smaller than Gamabunta was able to completely lift, grip, and maneuver his sword with perfect accuracy whilst jumping much higher than the height of Gamabunta (this will be discussed a little later).
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Because Chakra enhanced strength plays no role in this we can get a better idea of Tsunade’s brute strength.
So if Samahada tries to block Tsunade's punch it gets destroyed/ dies. Tsunade != Sakura

So your answer to lava jutsu is that because he moves up and Mei's Lava can move like a fountain coming from upward, it's a good idea to go upwards.
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Great idea because he obviously won't run into the lava that way. And none of their attacks are slow when they have you outnumbered.
Yes, because the sand grabs him by his feet and pulls him underground before he even gets a chance to create the fountain. And if he does manage to escape as he goes up, as you provided in your scan... he just became a bulls-eye for Oonoki.

..What are you saying he does not even need to absorb the back .. all he needs is to absorb the front and you know what that means? that there is a giant ****ing hole in the front that he can get out of .. And idc if tsunde has brute strength or not .. unless her "Brute strength" is equal to that of a V2 lariat its not doing anything to Kisame .. First off as i said the water would turn the lava into nothing but earth so never countered that, and going up would work because its too slow to get above Kisame by the time he uses the wave, And Samehada absorbs jinton .. so no he is not a sitting duck
 

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..What are you saying he does not even need to absorb the back .. all he needs is to absorb the front and you know what that means? that there is a giant ****ing hole in the front that he can get out of .. And idc if tsunde has brute strength or not .. unless her "Brute strength" is equal to that of a V2 lariat its not doing anything to Kisame .. First off as i said the water would turn the lava into nothing but earth so never countered that, and going up would work because its too slow to get above Kisame by the time he uses the wave, And Samehada absorbs jinton .. so no he is not a sitting duck
Did I curse at you? No? Then be respectful and stop acting like a jerk when your arguments start falling apart.
By the time he tries to step out of the box the rest of it would have closed in destroying him.
Well let's see here a brute strength lifted Gamabunta's sword, so I'm going to wager it is stronger than a V2 Lariat unless you can compare a similar feat unto the the V2 Lariat.
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So how does he use samahada absorb if Kisame's hands are in a hand seal. Right? It doesn't.

He won't react to Tsunade+ Earth Golem+ Ay+ Sand. It's not happening he gets stomped end of story. And because he's dealing with all of that at just the beginning Mei easily blitzes him with her jutsu as he can't pay attention to her with 4 kage level ninja assaulting him.
 
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Did I curse at you? No? Then be respectful and stop acting like a jerk when your arguments start falling apart.
By the time he tries to step out of the box the rest of it would have closed in destroying him.
Well let's see here a brute strength lifted Gamabunta's sword, so I'm going to wager it is stronger than a V2 Lariat unless you can compare a similar feat unto the the V2 Lariat.
So how does he use samahada absorb if Kisame's hands are in a hand seal. Right? It doesn't.

He won't react to Tsunade+ Earth Golem+ Ay+ Sand. It's not happening he gets stomped end of story. And because he's dealing with all of that at just the beginning Mei easily blitzes him with her jutsu as he can't pay attention to her with 4 kage level ninja assaulting him.

Id rather you curse at me then claim things are a "Fail" U_U that shit annoys me ... And no it would not close in it only takes seconds to absorb a Bijuu cloak.. its not going to take that long .. And like i said the only way Kisame wins is if he uses water dome first .. which against the Gokage he may ..

And Brute strength< Lariat because it does not pierce or cause that much damage Kisame heals from it easily
 

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Id rather you curse at me then claim things are a "Fail" U_U that shit annoys me ... And no it would not close in it only takes seconds to absorb a Bijuu cloak.. its not going to take that long .. And like i said the only way Kisame wins is if he uses water dome first .. which against the Gokage he may ..

And Brute strength< Lariat because it does not pierce or cause that much damage Kisame heals from it easily
Because Lariat pierces?
Your totally right brute strength doesn't do much damage I means it's not apparent that her strength would easily smash through bodies and destroy vital organs....oh wait.
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And if she enhances her strength with chakra it would turn into
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Yes it does .. And no that would never happen on a real Human .. No one can punch holes through someone
 

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Kisame isn't madara he already got blitzed by double lariat don't compare madara and the akatsuki
 
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