kisame vs gai (read first)

[arv993]

The shockwave is instant after afternoon tiger connects, that was what Yamato was talking about. Not the attack itself, if it was instant then there would be no time between Guy shooting it and Kisame being hit so by definition you are wrong and will always be wrong if you keep trying to defend that point. Also Yamato apparently had time to tell everyone to brace themselves and they all did before the attack hit Kisame so once again the attack is not instant, but the shockwave afterwards might be.

And I like how you completely disregarded the part about Kisame never using that jutsu because the thread creator said FULL INFO, which means that Kisame would know that Guy uses taijutsu attacks so he wouldn't do it. The only way to properly argue is to address all points, something you are not doing.

the reason why it was not exactly instant is because there is an opposing force if you did not see it was the shark missile but still the blast from it was fast. And yamato was far away, it is called an aftershock that it comes after a huge tech explodes (not exactly the power and speed of the tech itself) just to point that out to you. It is also like the aftershock you get after using a rasenshuriken it is not part of the tech itself. Yes i kno he has full info but does he have the speed to avoid it, no so its unlikely he would win becus after damage like that he is extremely damaged, but kisame is a monster and has a chance to win but guy is a good counter to him and has a better chance. And guy can use the afternoon tiger without kisame using shark missile or anything(idk what you are talking about in the last paragraph), all the tech is extreme pressure and is very fast.

 

[Itachi Namikaze]

the reason why it was not exactly instant is because there is an opposing force if you did not see it was the shark missile but still the blast from it was fast. And yamato was far away, it is called an aftershock that it comes after a huge tech explodes (not exactly the power and speed of the tech itself) just to point that out to you. It is also like the aftershock you get after using a rasenshuriken it is not part of the tech itself. Yes i kno he has full info but does he have the speed to avoid it, no so its unlikely he would win becus after damage like that he is extremely damaged, but kisame is a monster and has a chance to win but guy is a good counter to him and has a better chance. And guy can use the afternoon tiger without kisame using shark missile or anything(idk what you are talking about in the last paragraph), all the tech is extreme pressure and is very fast.

I know he can use it without Kisame using shark missile, what I was saying is that if Kisame did not use shark missile then he has more time to dodge so he doesn't take a direct hit from afternoon tiger.

If he doesn't take a direct hit then he is good to go because like you said Kisame is a monster, he took a direct hit in his weakened state without Samehada and could still move (at least until Guy stomped on him).

Kisame can take a lot of damage and still keep going, especially with Samehada which can heal him.

 

[arv993]

I know he can use it without Kisame using shark missile, what I was saying is that if Kisame did not use shark missile then he has more time to dodge so he doesn't take a direct hit from afternoon tiger.

If he doesn't take a direct hit then he is good to go because like you said Kisame is a monster, he took a direct hit in his weakened state without Samehada and could still move (at least until Guy stomped on him).

Kisame can take a lot of damage and still keep going, especially with Samehada which can heal him.

I said b4 he would get hit becos dude the afternoon tiger is fast and was slowed down becos of the shark missile, the attack is fast the shark missile was pushing it back and he wouldn't dodge it and would get hurt a lot and guy would finish him off like b4 really fast and can also weaken him with morning peacock plus guy has the speed advantage so he can end the fight pretty fast if he has full info on kisame like kisame has on him cos he knos about samehada and its abilities. And we haven't seen any speed feats that he could dodge an attack that big that fast. And i take guy's word that it is very fast becos when have we actually seen ppl really lie about their techs. I think guy with full info has the advantage and can pull out a win. And dude don't compare it to the aftershock that yamato felt that is just an aftershock it is like naruto's after he uses rasenshuriken, it is not really the speed and power of the attack.

 

[fastrthnwind]

I would like to point out that chakra is created from stamina, which is the mental and physical energies in an uncombined state. Taijutsu uses mostly stamina and only uses chakra to enhance attacks and speed. When kisame steals chakra with samehada, the sword converts it back into stamina to heal kisame. When the gates are open, it releases chakra throughout the body to enhance the bodys muscles and stimulates nerve endings to make the user stronger and faster than normal