kisame vs gai (read first)

[deidara senpai]

ok in this battle its 100%

kisame has samehada
kisame is at 100%
and kisame is not weakend

every time kisame and gai fight their is always one disadvantage that kisame has well this time none

location: where the first gai vs kisame happened in kazrkage arc

restrictions:gai can go up to the 7th gate

knowledge: full knowledge for both

personal opinion with some difficulty this time i see kisame winning

well explain remember no 8th gate

 

[Morteus]

Kisame might win this one...barely

 

[Ballin Sasuke]

I think might gai because we've only seen up to the 4th gate you know and yea

 

[deidara senpai]

I think might gai because we've only seen up to the 4th gate you know and yea

you ok we have seen him use the seventh you know

 

[Princermb]

I think Guy would win with extreme difficulty. I think his speed and strength when he is in the gates is almost unmatched.

 

[Lord Snow]

i think kisame would win and i think the reasin kishi didnt let kisame use samehada is cause he would of killed gai

 

[Shirohige]

im sorry but kisame loses, if kisame was able to use the water sphere then he would win, but when guy goes 6th gate + the green sweat aura repels stuff around him + water.
Guy>Kisame

 

[Balmong]

i vote for kisame, playing it out in my head i see kisame beating alot of the characters (and i dont rlly like him>.<)

 

[deidara senpai]

i think kisame would win and i think the reasin kishi didnt let kisame use samehada is cause he would of killed gai

agreed

im sorry but kisame loses, if kisame was able to use the water sphere then he would win, but when guy goes 6th gate + the green sweat aura repels stuff around him + water.
Guy>Kisame

so then killer bee is also weaker than gai

that was with water jutsu with it filling up like or ocean this is a dome prison i dont see gai breaking out of that with the aura plus gai may be fast but kisame is now under water in his turf

sorry but kisame>Gai

 

[Itachi Namikaze]

I think Kisame would win as well, with samehada and the knowledge that Afternoon Tiger can't be sucked up by his shark jutsu then Kisame would never have waited there and gotten hit by it. Plus Guy with 7 Gates on had to be thrown by Bee and then jump off his turtle to catch up to Kisame, and Kisame was just waiting there so I feel like the gates doesn't increase his speed as much as everyone thinks it does. Like he wouldn't be insanely fast like A.

With Samehada Kisame can just use his chakra to heal himself, and if Guy gets touched by Samehada it is all over. Bee lost 6 tails worth of chakra in one swipe and I sure as shit know that Guy does not have 6 tails worth of chakra to give away. And Kisame still had plenty of fight left in him after Guy beat him up, he still managed to put everyone in a water prison and broke out of mokuton which suppresses chakra and then summon sharks. He could at least have killed Guy which no one seems to understand, he just didn't want to be captured.


EDIT: People seriously overrate the Gates, the Gates only allows you to fully utilize your body's full potential. In the Naruto world there are chakra blocks on the circulatory system so your body doesn't use it's full capabilities and wear itself down, the Gates just removes these. It doesn't increase your max potential speed and it doesn't increase your potential strength.

Someone who naturally has more strength and speed and chakra will always be faster than someone who has less but uses the gates. Kisame has an ungodly amount of chakra just like A and Nagato and Naruto and Jiraiya. That is why they naturally are stronger than other people, I mean naruto moved that stone toad statue without the toad oil when he was training for sage mode. And Jiraiya and A are super strong too, we don't know about Nagato because he has always been emaciated due to his chakra rods and paths technique.

I don't think the gates puts him on par with A's speed or Minato's or Naruto's. If it did then he would be more feared and widely known. I think that Guy in full gates is maybe equal in speed, not strength, to Naruto in sage mode. Never Kyuubi mode, and I don't think he is faster than Jiraiya in sage mode because Jiraiya is naturally faster than Naruto and sage mode augments your strength and speed.

 

[Jae Dong180]

Very, very close.......Kisame may win but....Guy is like in his head especially how Kisame tries so hard to get Guy to remember his name....I think Guy could beat this akatsuki member based on matchups,however, I think Guy would lose to Sasori,Deidara, and Kakazu.

 

[deidara senpai]

I think Kisame would win as well, with samehada and the knowledge that Afternoon Tiger can't be sucked up by his shark jutsu then Kisame would never have waited there and gotten hit by it. Plus Guy with 7 Gates on had to be thrown by Bee and then jump off his turtle to catch up to Kisame, and Kisame was just waiting there so I feel like the gates doesn't increase his speed as much as everyone thinks it does. Like he wouldn't be insanely fast like A.

With Samehada Kisame can just use his chakra to heal himself, and if Guy gets touched by Samehada it is all over. Bee lost 6 tails worth of chakra in one swipe and I sure as shit know that Guy does not have 6 tails worth of chakra to give away. And Kisame still had plenty of fight left in him after Guy beat him up, he still managed to put everyone in a water prison and broke out of mokuton which suppresses chakra and then summon sharks. He could at least have killed Guy which no one seems to understand, he just didn't want to be captured.

this is perfect i agree completely with everything

and also with gais over rated speed it makes someone kage level speed with the gates i think a lot of kages are still faster than

i mean a lot of people not kages

 

[deidara senpai]

Very, very close.......Kisame may win but....Guy is like in his head especially how Kisame tries so hard to get Guy to remember his name....I think Guy could beat this akatsuki member based on matchups,however, I think Guy would lose to Sasori,Deidara, and Kakazu.

i also agree that gai would lose to them as well

 

[BusinessManTeno]

O_O no, kisame loses, do yall not remember that alot of his attacks are not CHAKRA related, except his gates. which he wont even see gai fast enuf to block it with his samehada, the reason guy had to be thrown was becuz kisame was SOOOOOO far ahead and his spead was crazy, and if u saw, water prison dont work on him with the gates open, long story short, guy pwns his ass

 

[Kakashii]

gai win i think...samehada on this fight is useless cuz gai dont use chackra to fight so he would rape kisame once again.
on their fight in the firsts episodes of shippuden gai destroyed kisame and i know that wasn't the real kisame but its kisame's jutsus that were being used.

 

[BusinessManTeno]

Very, very close.......Kisame may win but....Guy is like in his head especially how Kisame tries so hard to get Guy to remember his name....I think Guy could beat this akatsuki member based on matchups,however, I think Guy would lose to Sasori,Deidara, and Kakazu.

Ummmmmmm. yea, i agree with that, cuz hes a close range, long range he gets pwned, umm, sasori,? no, sakura is weaker then guy and slower and she broke his shell easy, i reckon its easy to get to his body (heart source if hes fast enuf)

 

[deidara senpai]

gai win i think...samehada on this fight is useless cuz gai dont use chackra to fight so he would rape kisame once again.
on their fight in the firsts episodes of shippuden gai destroyed kisame and i know that wasn't the real kisame but its kisame's jutsus that were being used.

doesnt matter if gai uses chakra to use or not just by kisame standing next to him will suck him out and gai is close range he will take a lot of chakra from him like that plus water dome prison gai doesnt move as fast while in water and kisame does move faster in the water and chakra will just continue to suck out of gai until hes plain exhausted

 

[Itachi Namikaze]

Um to those who said that Guy doesn't use chakra, I suggest you guys reread the manga. Chakra is used to do everything, taijutsu is included in that, if Guy gets touched by Samehada even once then he is done for. He can still lose chakra and die of chakra exhaustion just like anyone else, and maybe Kisame can't suck up afternoon tiger but he could just dodge, he had plenty of time he was just confident that his move would suck up Guy's attack so he didn't worry about it.

And the Gates apparently doesn't stop the water prison as Guy was trapped in it after he caught Kisame. At which point Kisame could have killed him had he so chosen. Funny how everyone forgets that part, how Guy would have lost had Kishi not decided to make Kisame kill himself. Kisame had tons of chakra left and could still summon sharks and break out of mokuton.

 

[Shirohige]

agreed



so then killer bee is also weaker than gai

that was with water jutsu with it filling up like or ocean this is a dome prison i dont see gai breaking out of that with the aura plus gai may be fast but kisame is now under water in his turf

sorry but kisame>Gai

NO but guy would be stronger underwater due to his gates, and you say you dont see it repelling all that water in the dome ?

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Look how much water this repelled noob.
but kisame is faster than guy underwater, but on land kisame loses with speed.

overall guy beats kisame. 7th gate ftw

 

[Itachi Namikaze]

Ummmmmmm. yea, i agree with that, cuz hes a close range, long range he gets pwned, umm, sasori,? no, sakura is weaker then guy and slower and she broke his shell easy, i reckon its easy to get to his body (heart source if hes fast enuf)

Um first off Sakura is not weaker than Guy. She and Tsunade are pretty much the strongest characters in the show. Do you know why? Because of their perfect chakra control that allows them to release built up chakra at the point of impact with their fists. So they are augmenting their strength beyond belief. Unless you think Guy can bring down an entire building with one punch. (Go watch the Sannin fight in Part 1 if you don't know what I am talking about)

Easy to break sasori's shell? Sakura was being controlled by a pupper master who was familiar with Sasori (she was his grandmother) and taught him everything he knew. Plus she still got hit, it is just that they were both medics and had an antidote to his poison. And she only fought against a few puppets, Chiyo controlled 10 puppets to fight off most of them. And then Chiyo controlled 2 more puppets (Sasori's parents)