Kisame vs EMS Madara (argument included)

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2 things that people are forgetting to consider
- Kisame also has an earth affinity
- Kisame has been partnered with Itachi and therefore would be well versed in the sharigans properties and techniques, to the point that he would probably have counter strategies
now we are just making assumptions if we are going to make assumptions why cant we assume that samehada likes madara's chackra better .
Madara uchia is 1 of the strongest uchia to ever live he is standing down 5 kage and not even trying .
it wouldnt be and easy fight medium to high difficulty win for madara uchia
 

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No way, just no way kisame could beat madara. Explanation below :
1.What if samehada likes madara chakra better??
2.Uchiha ability ( genjutsu ) if itachi could cast genjutsu with fingers so can madara. Madara + has EMS so probably he has tsukuyomi ( only way to break tsukuyomi is to be blood related, so samehada couldn't do anyting here ).
3.Madara has Susano. With Susano he could block, repel, kisame attacks.
4.Madara could kill/destroy Samehada!!? Did you consider that?? Madara is good in taijutsu, he has sharingan witch could help him predict some kisame moves.
5.Madara may have amateratsu, and it would help him alot.
6.Madara awoke rinnengan, and now he has more available jutsu in his sleeve. He can use all the jutsu we saw Nagato use with rinnengan.
7.Madara took some of Hashirama DNK. SAGE EYES + SAGE BODY = PERFECT IZANAGI. How do you think kisame would beat that? Izanagi ( When activated, the caster removes the boundaries between reality and illusion within their personal space ). Also he could use mokuton, and you should know that EARTH > WATER. And we saw what madara can do with mokuton.

Sry bro I know you are Kisame fan boy, but be realistic please. Madara is one of the strongest character and he is on a way bigger level than kisame. Sorry but this is fact. So Madara >>>> Kisame

Reply me if you think I am wrong.
 

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Oh okay. Well although it's showing fear how can we know for sure that it's genjutsu?

Even IF it is Kisame has Samehada that CONSTANTLY disrupts Kisames chakra by giving and taking chakra.
Why does Kisame have samehada though? its not his sword anymore.... icould understand you saying in his prime he had the sword, but ifeel that only makes sense with jutsu, since one cannot take a jutsu away from u and use it himself,(oro got his jutsu taken, but its not like hiruzen could now use them) bee is in possession of samehada so kisame shouldnt be able to use it imo.... with the info we have now istill agree that kisame would prob take this, but we've barely seen any of madara's jutsu.... its like sayin sakura vs so6p, but we havent seen him do anything except pose in front of the juubi so sakura would win, thats flawed logic, therefore ibanish this thread to the depths of hades :scorps:
 

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Why does Kisame have samehada though? its not his sword anymore.... icould understand you saying in his prime he had the sword, but ifeel that only makes sense with jutsu, since one cannot take a jutsu away from u and use it himself,(oro got his jutsu taken, but its not like hiruzen could now use them) bee is in possession of samehada so kisame shouldnt be able to use it imo.... with the info we have now istill agree that kisame would prob take this, but we've barely seen any of madara's jutsu.... its like sayin sakura vs so6p, but we havent seen him do anything except pose in front of the juubi so sakura would win, thats flawed logic, therefore ibanish this thread to the depths of hades :scorps:
excactly so end of disscusion
 

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kisame is like a tank he needs to be filled up. if kisame just goes in w/o absorbing chakra first from some1 then its a wrap, he needs vast amount of chakra to do so. also just like itachie said every jutsu has a weakness for instance that shark bomb it absorbs the opsosing users jutsu to get stronger what id madara just dodges it? also about genjutsu i understand samada to a certain extent makes him immune to it. so how if madara destroys the sword or take what then? there is now way you can say kisame is fast as madara. in my eyes i think madara is way to smart of a fighter to lose to kisame in almost any circumstance even if its just ems. all these are my opinions. that's what i think. i see you siggy see he has a chance against the 1st hokage are you mad man. really? 1st vs kisame is a horrible match up for kisame no matter how you look at it.
 
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hmmm,if madara possessed the power of space/time jutsu that tobi possesses then it`s already an advantage for madara.plus madara had another power of the mangekyou we dont know about.it`s close because kisame is a beast but madara has it i think :)
 
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in fact konohamaru beats madara. I agree wit not assuming or speculating abilities but madara was the strongest uchiha dat uses all normal abilitiesn the uchiha. Someone who uses susano shudnt av problem using amaterasu or tsuyokomi. He may not show amaterasu now cos he's using rinengan. How he is still able 2 use susano, i dont know. Mayb cos its performd wit both eyes
 

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A separate thread had a lot of comments on saying Kisame couldn't beat Madara. His chances to beat Edo Madara are very slim as he can't seal.

So vs EMS Madara it's VERY likely he would win.

Madara hasn't shown any attacks that are fast enough for someone to not react to such as Amaterasu.

Susanoo would be countered very easily with a jutsu that absorbs chakra, and chakra jutsu.

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Madara has a really strong Katon jutsu that took multiple ninjas to cancel out.

Kisame has two answers to any Katon jutsu that Madara can throw at him.

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Samehada can cut through the jutsu easily. That was Itachis strongest Katon jutsu. It was split right down the middle.

Susanoo is canceled out with Shark bullet technique.

Katon is canceled out.

Madara has no way to get out of Kisames dome jutsu.

Madara has shown nothing to counter 1000 shark summons.

Kisame wins 8/10 times.

DO NOT FLAME. I presented my argument if you don't agree counter it.
lol.. what the hell you talking.. if kisame's that strong how come he lost to guy.. FYI.. guy has no kekkai genkai.. but he win.. and for you to know seems like u dont understand the manga.. kisame obey madara as well as he obey itachi for same reason he acknowledge them both that those eyes are superior to him..
 

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laughable madara scrapes kisame in seconds with a genjutsu or just simple taijutsu madara is not losing this one guys when i see a chapter where kisame beats anyyyyy uchiha ill think about this again since the thread poster continues to say just because it isnt shown it cant happen
 

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The difference maker in Kisame vs Itachi is Amaterasu which Madara does not have.

madara does have amaterasu -_- and tsukyomi
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he even hinted he has tsukyomi -_- he wants to cast in on the moon ffs .....

these three jutsu come in a package..
 
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