Kisame vs. Deva Path

[Brother Numpsay]

"What are you arguing you just concluded that it came out 506? And now you are saying 507 is WHERE HE SHOT IT? HE already pushed his damn hands at 506.. please read it"

You sir, are among the biggest morons I have seen on this base.

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Idiot, leaving the body doesn't mean IT IS NOW RELEASE.

THAT is where he pushed it retard.
That is where it TRAVELED retard

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This is where he formed it hence him making a jutsu specific hand sign...moron, learn how to read the damn manga.
Top panel (the first then I circled)It the formed seal. 2nd, the Big panel is releasing the jutsu Stop being an idiot you clearly see the shark being released

"Now tell me why GSB is not reaching form that distance"

:sy: It will reach....BUT NOT BEFORE ROCKS AND DEBRIS (that are much closer than the attack) HIT THE CORE
The fact that you think that this:

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IS NOT ENOUGH TO Take OUT THIS STAGE:

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IS Beyond Reasoning with you Anymore


"I never said GSB was faster then those 3 jutsu. I said they took 4 pages to completely destroy the jutsu when Kisame DOESN'T"

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I know that you have trouble reading the manga so I'll clarify this for you.

THAT TOOK ONLY ONE PANEL.
2 panels out of 4 pages:

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"Exactly Kisame is NOT talking"


Doesn't matter, as they were closer to the orb than Kisame would be AND their jutsu move faster than GSB.
Bottom right panel is where the attacks hit (hence the light).
Then you neglect the charge up panel

"You just openly admit that KN6 is faster then Kisame using jutsu allowing him to SWIM on land and Deva is faster too. Good job. I'm done."

You better be done...because you make no damn sense, him "swimming on land" doesn't make him faster than KN6...deal with it.
Swimming on land makes him Faster then KN6 and Deva's base speed moron. You Believe that Deva beat's Kisame in swimming, I will not discuss this anymore you have already shown that you are a complete moron to believe that. Or Do I have to literally explain the earth jutsu to you? NA it's beyond reasoning with you.

"Is GSB slower then THE Rocks That is UNWILLINGLY decides to be pulled UP then a GIANT MISSLE THAT IS WILLINGLY TO REACH IT's DESTINATION?"

You sound dumb right now...as the purpose of the jutsu is to pull up the damn rocks.
Pulls everything on top moron:

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READ. WHAT. ITACHI. SAID. ON. THE. MIDDLE. PANEL.

GSB isn't making it before the core is protected.

Oh and btw, I'm glad you are supposedly ending this discussion..as you make no sense at all.

I hope you are glad because It's impossible to explain this to a moron. You are beyond reasoning, to EVEN conclude that It Takes 1 Pain body to solo An Akatsuki. What is next...

 

[Guildmage]

Kisame is not fast enough to keep attacking deva In a gap of 5 secs. Deva takes it easily.
No chibaku needed.

 

[Brother Numpsay]

Kisame is not fast enough to keep attacking deva In a gap of 5 secs. Deva takes it easily.
No chibaku needed.

Naruto has 3.5 Speed and he did just fine.
Kisame has 4 speed.

I swear people think Deva is one of the fastest characters, what are you basing his speed from, anime Deva vs Kyuubi naruto? lol...

 

[Memoria]

I never gave Kisame knowledge I said Deva running away means something. He was to counter it no matter what if it requires you to run away and take him out. If something is being shot in the air that was meant to defeat him that means he is in danger. Itachi fighting Deva would do it.

No one would think something that wasn't even thrown at their direction would have the purpose of attacking them. You're only giving Kisame info on the technique, something he doesn't have. And to think that a character who has 3.5 in intelligence would react to a technique better than a genius with 5 in intelligence and many more intelligence feats is something that I don't understand.

 

[Brother Numpsay]

No one would think something that wasn't even thrown at their direction would have the purpose of attacking them. You're only giving Kisame info on the technique, something he doesn't have. And to think that a character who has 3.5 in intelligence would react to a technique better than a genius with 5 in intelligence and many more intelligence feats is something that I don't understand.

So you are telling the if no one on the Naruto NV have no knowledge they won't react? I didn't give Kisame knowledge I giving Kisame a reaction. I never said he would react better then Itachi. If I were to make a Itachi vs Deva then I would say he will counter it faster. If I say Kisame vs Nagato then Kisame wouldn't know how to react because Nagato is not running or cause any misconceptions.

 

[VisionOfDisorder]

dededededeDEVAPATH, with higher difficulty than most aka members though.

 

[Memoria]

So you are telling the if no one on the Naruto NV have no knowledge they won't react? I didn't give Kisame knowledge I giving Kisame a reaction. I never said he would react better then Itachi. If I were to make a Itachi vs Deva then I would say he will counter it faster. If I say Kisame vs Nagato then Kisame wouldn't know how to react because Nagato is not running or cause any misconceptions.

He won't react? No. He won't react in time? Yes.
And I'm not talking about your scenario as I said earlier. You do know Deva can just summon Gedo Mazo to stall Kisame while he uses Chibaku Tensei, right?
The whole argument about Kisame reacting to the technique fast enough wouldn't make sense to be honest, Itachi saw Nagato prepare the technique

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yet didn't react fast enough to it, not until it completely shielded itself with rocks, and the gravitational effect started

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As I said earlier, no one would know that they would be attacked by something that wasn't even thrown at their direction, at the very least they would assume that their opponent missed their target.
By saying Kisame would react fast enough to Chibaku Tensei much less counter it, it's like another way of giving him info on it.

 

[Brother Numpsay]

He won't react? No. He won't react in time? Yes.
And I'm not talking about your scenario as I said earlier. You do know Deva can just summon Gedo Mazo to stall Kisame while he uses Chibaku Tensei, right?
Proof it, 1 Pain body gets one path



The whole argument about Kisame reacting to the technique fast enough wouldn't make sense to be honest, Itachi saw Nagato prepare the technique

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yet didn't react fast enough to it, not until it completely shielded itself with rocks, and the gravitational effect started

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So will itachi react the same way if Deva was running away in battle?

As I said earlier, no one would know that they would be attacked by something that wasn't even thrown at their direction, at the very least they would assume that their opponent missed their target.
By saying Kisame would react fast enough to Chibaku Tensei much less counter it, it's like another way of giving him info on it.

We are talking about Kisame he left him no choice but do to his final jutsu when he realized he is endangered.

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Running away gives it away. I'll say it again. The reason why I come to this conclusion it because Deva has to RUN AWAY To do this final jutsu. Unlike Nagato's main body. Running Away GIVES it away.

 

[khaydz5]

I'm sorry if i wasn't clear. In my opinion it can still be absorbed up until the first pebble or piece of earth connects with it. As long as there is at least half of the orb showing, I believe it can be absorbed.

lol I dont think its relevant if GSB can absorb it or not.

first, the ball is to tiny for kisame to notice it in a distance.
2nd, once deva throw it in the air there is little to no chance kisame can react to that. even itachi,bee and naruto never got a chance to react not until there are stones already attached to the ball.
3rd and most important of all, I don't think kisame can shoot GSB upwards, he used it underwater and most probably kisame needs alot of water before he can fire that.

kisame has like 5% change of beating deva. case solved, close thread.

 

[Memoria]

We are talking about Kisame he left him no choice but do to his final jutsu when he realized he is endangered.

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Running away gives it away. I'll say it again. The reason why I come to this conclusion it because Deva has to RUN AWAY To do this final jutsu. Unlike Nagato's main body. Running Away GIVES it away.

There you go:

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I don't believe Deva needs to run away to use Chibaku Tensei. As I stated above Gedo Mazo handles Kisame just fine while Deva prepares his technique.
It's hard to say if Itachi was in the same situation, if he has a way to deal with Gedo Mazo fast enough and notice Chibaku Tensei, then he has a chance, but I'm not really sure.

 

[Curse Mark]

lol I dont think its relevant if GSB can absorb it or not.

first, the ball is to tiny for kisame to notice it in a distance.
2nd, once deva throw it in the air there is little to no chance kisame can react to that. even itachi,bee and naruto never got a chance to react not until there are stones already attached to the ball.
3rd and most important of all, I don't think kisame can shoot GSB upwards, he used it underwater and most probably kisame needs alot of water before he can fire that.

kisame has like 5% change of beating deva. case solved, close thread.

I'm willing to admit Kisame probably doesn't win this. I was just arguing that if the GSB hit the black orb before the rocks got to it that it would be absorbed, so I have no idea why you chose me out of everyone to try and contradict.
Also, I don't think the GSB is made out of water. And why wouldn't he be able to shoot it upwards? Those are the only parts of your posts I disagree with.

 

[the dark king]

deva path low-mid diff kisame has no chance he'll get crushed into little peices

 

[Brother Numpsay]

There you go:

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I don't believe Deva needs to run away to use Chibaku Tensei.
If that is just Deva wins through speculation. I'm going by manga facts, pain body is not like Nagato therefore he needs more prep then original/prime body

As I stated above Gedo Mazo handles Kisame just fine while Deva prepares his technique.
It's hard to say if Itachi was in the same situation, if he has a way to deal with Gedo Mazo fast enough and notice Chibaku Tensei, then he has a chance, but I'm not really sure.

Your image doesn't work so I won't jump to conclusion on what your talking about through out your post. At least give me the page reference. But to disprove you:

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And @ people saying Low Diff LOL Deva has 3 jutsu. Kisame will stomp 2/3 techs and CT is debatable (As of why this thread is extending)

 

[genii96]

Deva low diff.

 

[Senpai1507]

Kisame would lose.

 

[Memoria]

Your image doesn't work so I won't jump to conclusion on what your talking about through out your post. At least give me the page reference. But to disprove you:

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And @ people saying Low Diff LOL Deva has 3 jutsu. Kisame will stomp 2/3 techs and CT is debatable (As of why this thread is extending)

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Deva has been summoning Gedo Mazo in every Akatsuki meeting, I thought this was clear by now.
Nagato's techniques are stronger when he's not using dead bodies, that's obvious. But Anyway, when Nagato focuses all of his chakra into Deva Path, meaning there are no other paths in play, Deva becomes a lot more powerful.

I thought Gedo Mazo was restricted at first, but since Deva has access to it, he gets things done quite more comfortably.

 

[Uchimaki dante]

Kisame is like a no tail beast he has a massive amount of charkra

 

[VongolaX]

kisame wins, shark bullet is said to absorb chakra to grow! No limitations were given to the echnique, so before you know it. Te shark would be bigger than ct and lets not get started with his final form

 

[khaydz5]

kisame wins, shark bullet is said to absorb chakra to grow! No limitations were given to the echnique, so before you know it. Te shark would be bigger than ct and lets not get started with his final form

and shinra tensei is said to REPEL ALL ATTACKS. CT=instawin

Kisame is like a no tail beast he has a massive amount of charkra

and nagato being an uzumaki has a vast amount of chakra aswell. whats your point?

 

[Brother Numpsay]

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Deva has been summoning Gedo Mazo in every Akatsuki meeting, I thought this was clear by now.
Nagato's techniques are stronger when he's not using dead bodies, that's obvious. But Anyway, when Nagato focuses all of his chakra into Deva Path, meaning there are no other paths in play, Deva becomes a lot more powerful.

I thought Gedo Mazo was restricted at first, but since Deva has access to it, he gets things done quite more comfortably.

Well I guess I overlooked that. I never thought the manga would contradict itself like that. So I'm guessing any pain body can do it for it to avoid contradiction. I guess this concludes this battle: Deva wins with Gezo.

To answer the OP question Yes GSB can absorb the ninjutsu black orb.