Kisame vs Danzo

[DMT]

OT: Water dome ends the fight before Danzo can even close the gap between them.

izanagi ...

 

[Dark Riku]

With KA being restricted,Kisame wins.

 

[super yang]

feel that kisame wins but question can danzo summoning suck up water dome? if so then my opnion may change

this^ yes it can. I believe baku seals objects, as futon & sealing are danzos main theme.

Danzo has great defensive options w/ baku, tunneling thru mokuton instead of wasting stamina on non-useful Izanagi & his fuuton mastery.

only after countering kisame on ninjutsu terms, which he can, does he finish kisame w/ izanagi

 

[GodKage]

kisame midd diff if he figures out izanagi

 

[Unorthodox]

Kisame low diff danzo is shitty

 

[DMT]

Kisame low diff danzo is shitty

What .. he tied with ms sasuke & Karin even without ka
There's no way in hell kisame wins low diff . Unless you think kisame can low diff ms sasuke

 

[battlestatio]

Kisame wins mid difficulty.

Danzo isn't outlasting Kisame and he'll be forced to rely on Izanagi once the water dome is created. Danzo isn't tagging Kisame once he is fused with samehada since he also gains the ability to sense chakra so surprise attacks aren't working. Clones will allow Kisame to gain intel on Danzo's abilities which will allow him to realize that he should keep his distance.

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

I know for a fact that you're TAC now. :|

OT: Kisame mid-high diff. He has the range in CQC and the reflexes - plus raw power - to even the playing field, and the seal is countered by simply fusing with Samehada or even Mizu Bunshin. Once Water Dome goes up it's over.

But, I was banned. And I would never break the rules further by logging on as an alt.

 

[Bronze]

Kisame child abuses him.​

 

[Unorthodox]

You are underrated Danzo .. he tied with ms sasuke & Karin even without ka
There's no way in hell kisame wins low diff . Unless you think kisame can low diff ms sasuke

stop ABC logic is shit how did danzo tie with sasuke when he died? also sasuke didnt need karin danzo took a hostage he's pathertic

water drowns him giant sharks makes him breakfast

 

[DMT]

stop ABC logic is shit how did danzo tie with sasuke when he died? also sasuke didnt need karin danzo took a hostage he's pathertic

water drowns him giant sharks makes him breakfast

1. not ABC logic .. saying kisame low diff Danzo is just stupid ... MS sasuke needed karin to heal himself .. and without Obito .. he should be sealed by Danzo's suicide technique ..

2. Izanagi

 

[Mattek2008]

Kisame takes this quite comfortably.

 

[Forbidden Technique]

@ TAC, how would the juinjutsu work on Kisame given his innate ability to absorb chakra on contact with his skin? In addition to Samehada. While they don't necessarily dissappear, seals can get significantly weaker when the chakra used to maintain them is taken away [

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]. We can even see Minato exhausting himself

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trying to just maintain the seal. Also, we know that exerting enough chakra is enough to break Danzo's seal. Though not visible like Sasuke's susano'o, ninja are able to physically exert chakra out of their body. There are plenty of examples of this throughout the manga, but I believe the best example to help my case is

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; when Tayuya was resisting Shikamaru's shadow bind by exerting chakra [

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Between Kisames ability to make the seal weaker via chakra absorption, his immense chakra reserves, and strength, Danzo's juinjutsu should easily be broken. Thoughts?

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

@ TAC, how would the juinjutsu work on Kisame given his innate ability to absorb chakra on contact with his skin? In addition to Samehada. While they don't necessarily dissappear, seals can get significantly weaker when the chakra used to maintain them is taken away [

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]. We can even see Minato exhausting himself

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trying to just maintain the seal. Also, we know that exerting enough chakra is enough to break Danzo's seal. Though not visible like Sasuke's susano'o, ninja are able to physically exert chakra out of their body. There are plenty of examples of this throughout the manga, but I believe the best example to help my case is

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; when Tayuya was resisting Shikamaru's shadow bind by exerting chakra [

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].

Between Kisames ability to make the seal weaker via chakra absorption, his immense chakra reserves, and strength, Danzo's juinjutsu should easily be broken. Thoughts?

The question is truly if the seals do give off chakra or if they merely need chakra to form and afterwords, are stable and work by themselves. For during his battle with Sasuke, a shinobi capable of seeing into the earth and making out chakra, he did not catch sight of the juinjutsu. The argument can be made that Sasuke wasn't directly looking at Danzo's palm at the time, but neither Tobi nor Karin noticed the attack[

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]. If it were chakra in nature, it is only during the initial stages and soon self sustainable. I find absorption to be out of the question. Though, resisting the paralyzation could be possible in a similar manner to what Tayuya did. But there is quite the gap between the shadow paralyisis and Danzo's juinjutsu . I am skeptical at the moment of Kisame breaking it remarkably quick. His solution at best could rival Sasuke's which, if serious, Danzo could of killed him during this time.

 

[Forbidden Technique]

The question is truly if the seals do give off chakra or if they merely need chakra to form and afterwords, are stable and work by themselves. For during his battle with Sasuke, a shinobi capable of seeing into the earth and making out chakra, he did not catch sight of the juinjutsu. The argument can be made that Sasuke wasn't directly looking at Danzo's palm at the time, but neither Tobi nor Karin noticed the attack[

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]. If it were chakra in nature, it is only during the initial stages and soon self sustainable. I find absorption to be out of the question. Though, resisting the paralyzation could be possible in a similar manner to what Tayuya did. But there is quite the gap between the shadow paralyisis and Danzo's juinjutsu . I am skeptical at the moment of Kisame breaking it remarkably quick. His solution at best could rival Sasuke's which, if serious, Danzo could of killed him during this time.

I am referring to after the juinjutsu activates, so I don't think it matters whether Kisame initially catches it or not---which he probably wouldn't, until it is activated. Fact remains, chakra can be extracted from a seal to weaken it, as I already established in my previous post. I wasn't implying this alone would rid Kisame of the bind; but to simply make it easier on him to break out of it by exerting his chakra in similiar manner to Sasuke and Tayuya. There is indeed quite a gap between te shadow paralysis and Danzo's juinjutsu; but the same could be said about comparing Kisames and Tayuyas chakra. I suppose whether or not Kisame can break out is not the issue---as I believe I already established that he more then likely can---but how long it would take. However, with what means can Danzo really kill someone as pain resistant and durable as Kisame? With the ability to heal. Unless he disarms Kisame away from Samehada (A sword capable of defending itself), his fuuton would simply get absorbed.... leaving Danzo with nothing else but a kunai to work with. Highly doubt this'll be enough to put Kisame out of commission before he breaks free.

 

[HiddenSound]

No counter to Juinjutsu :>

 

[Salad]

Hmm, I see Danzo winning this high diff. For one, he can place the Juinjutsu on Kisame with relative ease, since he could do it to Sasuke, who in turn could keep with 4th Raikage, who blitzed Kisame.

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Also, Baku is essentially a counter to Kisame's Water Prison, seeing as it can essentially swallow it.

 

[HiddenSound]

Hmm, I see Danzo winning this high diff. For one, he can place the Juinjutsu on Kisame with relative ease, since he could do it to Sasuke, who in turn could keep with 4th Raikage, who blitzed Kisame.

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Also, Baku is essentially a counter to Kisame's Water Prison, seeing as it can essentially swallow it.

Hmm... I don't know about the blitzing point. That was merely a Zetsu, not the actual Kisame. I agree about Baku though.

 

[Salad]

Hmm... I don't know about the blitzing point. That was merely a Zetsu, not the actual Kisame. I agree about Baku though.

It was..? Memory loss. >.>
Still, it doesn't matter, the fact is, if he can get Sasuke, he can get Kisame too.

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

Josh. No. I will turn on a dime and defend Kisame if you think he is getting blitzed.

@FT: Solid points, I'll admit. I am skeptical if a seal can have chakra ripped from it as we haven't had much information stating either way, and several Sharingan users haven't be able to even see Danzo's seals (Obito and Sasuke, both the paralyzation and the final suicide technique). As for the rest, it shouldn't be an issue for Danzo to separate Samehada from an immobile Kisame. A kick or what not will do it. Not to mention shoving a kunai in his eyes, or vulnerable area's will do damage that may not be able to fix by Samehada's regen.