Kisame + Samehada vs Jiraiya
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Yes, I'm aware of it. He can summon a frog and tell it to go back and have him summoned
It takes like 2 seconds: *puff, a toad appears* "Summon me to village" *puff, toad disappears*In next few seconds he can expect being summoned. It might be quite an impressive "move" too. Imagine Kisame launching his most powerful attack against Jiraiya and he disappears just a millisecond before getting hit *puff!*
I think kisame would win (assuming he has samehada) because he gets stronger with the opponent. he could just trap jariya in the same jutsu that he used against Killer B which would give him the advantage in the terrain.
simonsez0800
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speculation: A conclusion, opinion, or theory reached by conjecture.
To say any thing but that Itachi and Kisame thought they would loose or take serious injury is speculation. Some speculation that Maybe Itiachi did think it was true becuase of all the hype built around J-dog. Some Speculate Itachi was trying to save a leaf hero. I have heard allot of speculation but the FACT is only what was said and what was done. They said they could not do it with out dying or serious injury to them selfs and as soon as J-man stepped in they ran. I can speculate that Kisame don't have a chance in hell but until they fight I don't actually know but they fact is he him self does not believe he would win that fight and with they time came him and another s rank ninja (Itachi) ran like hell. Why they did is besides what was actually said is nothing more the speculation.
U_U sorry but it was not''they said'' only itachi said that if they fought(itachi and jiraya)that they will both die(and itachi is not a fool,he is also highly skilled to know who is an equal ninja)kisame never said if they fought,he was the one that said maybe itachi can go toe to toe with j man,he already knows a higher ninja |when he sees oneU_U,besides it's not like itachi did not have AM and sasa,or like kisame was not with samahadaU_U,just wanted to point that out,thank uU_U
Ok first of all, I was purposely exaggerating what I said because it should be so obvious as to why he said it. It shouldn't have been that hard to tell. So don't bring no dictionary definitions of what I already know.
Second, just because Itachi said it, doesn't make it fact. It would be a fact if they had actually fought. So using that scenario is the wrong choice, even if you think Itachi was telling the truth. Time and time has someone in Naruto found out that what they thought is not actually the truth. Hiruzen thought he stopped the third coffin, was it a fact? No. Orochimaru thought the sword of Kusanagi could cut through anything. Was that a fact? No. Deidara thought he could beat Itachi. Was it a fact? After seeing their battle it turns out Deidara thought wrong. NOW we know for a FACT that Itachi can beat Deidara.
Itachi has been lying throughout to keep his secret a secret, yet you still assume Itachi was being truthful this one time? Let's say that Itachi was being honest when he said that. The excuse he gave was because he had little chakra to fight, therefore it is uselss to use that scenario and what he said in this battle. And Kisame never said Jiraiya can beat him, was ready to fight Jiraiya and knew who Jiraiya was. He wondered why someone even stronger than himself would run away from that fight.
Instead of thinking about what Itachi said (If you can't even see what reasons he may have said it) then come up with reasons why Jiraiya could beat Itachi without using words which can easily be misinterpreted. We have seen enough abilities and weaknesses from both to come up with a conclusion on our own.
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Darkakatsuki
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NOT TRUE!!
Bijuu chakra is said to be corrosive to humans and to even non perfect jinchurriki? Look at what happened to naruto when he overused kyubi chakra and what happened to orochimaru just by making contact with four tailed naruto, he was completely corroded and had to spit out a new body to survive.
BUT samehade was able to absorb this corrosive chakra and give it to kisame withoit side effects
, Why? Because samehada is a chakra converter, it doesn't just take the chakra as it is, it converts the chakra to match its own.
Here is my proof...
Kisame said that his chakra signiture was the same as samehada...tell me. What dies this tell you?
We know that kisame is not the first or the last person to wield the samehada, the previous wielder was kisame's mentor, samehada was made long before kisame even became a ninja, so come their chakra is the same?
The only logical explanation is that samehada converted its chakra to match kisame's, it is obvious that its chakra was matching the former wielder before kisame took hold of the sword.
Also, if you watch or read the Bee vs Kisame battle, that enka guy confirmed this theory with his analysis, he noted that the sword absorbs chakra in gives it to kisame IN THE FORM of physical energy.
The phrase 'gives it in the form' directly implies that the energy being given to kisame is not in the same form as when it was devoured, yaw people need to look underneath the underneath.
Samehada does not turn into stone from absorbing sage chakra because he converts it into physical energy for kisame, Jiraiya would most likely lose this battle, pretty much anyone who relies on ninjutsu loses to this guy.
