Kisame is at least top 15.

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I personally feel that without Samehada all Kisame's got going for him is high chakra capacity and high Suiton abilities. Besides against Gai, Kisame's had a natural advantage. The sea, Because of that all his Suiton techs were over 9000.
 
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bee never went full 8 tails if he had that water bubble would burst and the only reason bee didnt go was to avoid making a scene so his bro couldnt find him also guy is kisame natural enemy hes gates alone pushies water aside from all around him and the lack of chakra guy usies wont help kisame so guy would still win even if he had samahada
 

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bee never went full 8 tails if he had that water bubble would burst and the only reason bee didnt go was to avoid making a scene so his bro couldnt find him also guy is kisame natural enemy hes gates alone pushies water aside from all around him and the lack of chakra guy usies wont help kisame so guy would still win even if he had samahada
No Kisame would have absorbed all of Bee's chakra faster if he did that.
 

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No Kisame would have absorbed all of Bee's chakra faster if he did that.
no as samahada can only absorb about 4 tails i believe give or take and also i dont think that works in full 8 tails mode as that is a solid form and not comprised of just chakra like v1 and v2
 

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No Kisame would have absorbed all of Bee's chakra faster if he did that.
In both cases Kisame had the advantage as Bee couldn't go full Bijuu mode as he could have hurt Sabu & Ponta, and Kisame was fighting Gai on the sea where he had the natural advantage as a Suiton user. Besides, do you really think Samehada can absorb a Bijuudama from Bee in full Hachibi form?
 

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yes kisami is top 15 level but bee is top 10
fight don't show powers well
bee didn't use hatchibi in his fight with kisami
Kisame is perfect against jin and bijuu since bijuu made of chakra samehada will eat all hachibi and bee would have lost.
So be has to make use of his own abilities+ chakra aid from hachi but can't use bijuu forms, making him lot weaker.
Kisame>>B without bijuu forms.
 
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