Kisame (Edo sasori) vs. Onoki (Puppet Master) PUT YOUR POKER FACE ON! WHO WILL WIN???

[Kaede]

Puppet probably put a screamer in that spoiler....

Nah, but it's worse than that. u_u

 

[Fodder#4]

Lmao, still traumatized from back then? Lol
I guess you could say it's a screamer u_u

God, who's profile was that? ISS's? Rivaille?

And, god damn quote Edo Sasori next time!

 

[Zexion~]

lol AC if you lose >.>

 

[~Puppet Master~]

God, who's profile was that? ISS's? Rivaille?

And, god damn quote Edo Sasori next time!

I think it was Rivaille...

...and I did, the gray text on the left was what AC said, and the black text on the right was my counter. Was it not clear enough?

 

[Fodder#4]

I think it was Rivaille...

...and I did, the gray text on the left was what AC said, and the black text on the right was my counter. Was it not clear enough?

It was clear... Eventually. I read it at the start and then was thinking, "Wait... What?" Does it kill ya' to put it in a quote?!

 

[~Puppet Master~]

It was clear... Eventually. I read it at the start and then was thinking, "Wait... What?" Does it kill ya' to put it in a quote?!

It does, actually, I think quotes just make it look bad, so I made it artistic :scorps:

 

[Fodder#4]

It does, actually, I think quotes just make it look bad, so I made it artistic :scorps:

Unless the letters are actually a bunch of gifs that blow up and I just missed it; THIS is not art.

 

[~Puppet Master~]

Unless the letters are actually a bunch of gifs that blow up and I just missed it; THAT is not art.

"Fine art is something wonderful that's left long into the future… eternal beauty." - Sasori

Screw bombs... Learn to appreciate art :scorps:

 

[Zexion~]

"Fine art is something wonderful that's left long into the future… eternal beauty." - Sasori

Screw bombs... Learn to appreciate art :scorps:

"Fine art is the beauty of that single fleeting moment of explosion."-Deidara

 

[~Puppet Master~]

"Fine art is the beauty of that single fleeting moment of explosion."-Deidara

Sasori's Art: Still exists through the puppets he made, that are being passed on through generations
Deidara's Art: Gone, cause he's fucking dead

 

[Zexion~]

Sasori's Art: Still exists through the puppets he made, that are being passed on through generations
Deidara's Art: Gone, cause he's fucking dead

Exactly the way both of them would of wanted it ..

 

[~Puppet Master~]

Exactly the way both of them would of wanted it ..

Ya hear that AncientCenturion? My post is exactly the way Sasori and Deidara wanted it to be u_u

 

[Fodder#4]

Ya hear that AncientCenturion? My post is exactly the way Sasori and Deidara wanted it to be u_u

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[Zexion~]

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Lol no image for you

 

[Fodder#4]

Lol no image for you

Yep! I apparently it's...Censored. I had to find a new one.

 

[~Puppet Master~]

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[xxSasukEkUnxX]

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^

Exactly the way both of them would of wanted it ..

Too true.

 

[Kaede]

That's it! I'm TURNT UP PRINCESS CHARLIE - STYLE!!

LEH GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!

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Deidara's Ass Is Underrated

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I see... So that's how it is? This thread isn't big enough for two sexy beasts such as Kisame and Ohnoki, and that's why OHNOKI HAS TO GO!!!

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Since Onoki has been seen flying most of the time, even outside combat, I don't think it's safe to say that Onoki will get blitzed by Kisame. Since we haven't been given a starting distance, this is a bit more complicated, but unless they're standing in each other's face, Onoki will not be blitzed by Kisame, simply because his flight is instant and Kisame doesn't have intel on him, something you might have forgotten, it is also quite farfetched to say Kisame will absorb the chakra used for flight, since Samehada's maximum absorbing range doesn't seem to be very large. [

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] In fact, we could even argue that Samehada needs to touch in order to absorb, and since I already showed what happens when you try to get into CQC with Onoki, it might actually be fatal.​

It's true that Ohnoki tends to fly even outside of the battle, however, since we didn't give prep time to either of them, Ohnoki should start on the ground. Actually, we have been given a starting distance. Look at the OP. Kisame may not have intel on him, but Kisame is the type of guy that tends to charge in despite not having intel on his opponent. [

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] I am well aware that Samehada's absorbing range isn't really large and that's why I said that Kisame can use Samehada's ability to extend her hilt. [

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] Samehada doesn't need to touch it's target, it just needs to be close to it. Look at the bottom left panel of this scan. [

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] You stated that Ohnoki can use his Weight Technique on Kisame, but do I need to remind you that technique uses Chakra so it will be absorbed by Samehada. [

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] Even if it does do some damage to Kisame, Samehada will heal him. [

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] Also, to use that technique, Ohnoki will have to touch Kisame [

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] and if gets close Kisame can either rip him apart with Samehada [

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] or he can smack him down. [

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] Guy claims that Kisame has Super Human Strenght. Now if Kisame already used his Water Style to change the battlefield into a lake, you know what follows. [

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] Guy had to use his Gates to blow away the Sharks. [

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] I don't remember Ohnok having Guy's Gates Technique.

Yet again, I don' think this argument would be sufficient to stop Onoki's flight, since we've seen just how high he can go [

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], it doesn't seem like there are any drawbacks to it, especially since he has much experience at using it. Here you can see that Akatsuchi, who doesn't get to fly very often, expresses great comfort at flight [

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], basically telling us that Onoki has potentially the best agility in the manga.​

It's true that Ohnoki can go high, but he tends to keep close to his opponent [

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] and he doesn't just fly off because then Ohnoki would only be able to reach his opponent by using Jinton and I doubt that he can just keep on spamming Jinton. Ohnoki claimed that he used up his Chakra against Muu [

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] despite only using just one Jinton [

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], one Weight Technique [

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] and flying the whole time. [

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] This tells me that Ohnoki's Chakra reserves aren't really big. He could still use Techniques such as that Rock Fist technique, but he couldn't use Jinton anymore. Because of that, Ohnoki will have to enter close combat with Kisame [

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] and we both know who will win that. After all, Kisame is an expert at Kenjutsu. [

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Alright, this is where it gets good. But don't turn into FemmeFatale now, Kisame can't fly Lol I'm going to prove this with a piece of science.

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] <-- This is an article on water droplets, the fact that Kisame's water dome stays together isn't magic, it is in water's nature.

The drop takes this shape because water molecules tend to stick to each other. So, when not confined by a container, and with nothing around it to distort its shape, a very tiny water drop is perfectly round like a ball because the water molecules are pulling inward toward each other.

Alright, so we can now tell that Kisame's new form amplifies this into creating it into a huge dome, but it certainly doesn't grant it the ability to fly, inside it, yes, Kisame can 'fly' simply since the dome is huge and he can move around all he wants, but no, he can't fly.​

To be honest, I agree with you now that Kisame's Water Dome probably won't be able to fly. However, that doesn't mean that Kisame can't reach Ohnoki. Like I said before, Kisame can create huge waves on which he can stand so that he would be closer to Ohnoki. [

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] Please do keep in mind that Ohnoki doesn't go very far away from his opponents since then he would need to rely on Jinton and we both know that he can't spam Jinton. After Kisame creates his one of his huge waves, he can proceed to use his Suikodan technique to shoot down Ohnoki. [

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] Let me add one more point. This Suikodan technique can be a good counter to the Jinton. How? Well, Ohnoki has to form his Jinton first and Deidara has already shown to counter Jinton by shooting off a clay bird at Ohnoki so Akatsuchi had to protect them both. [

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] Since Ohnoki needs to stand still while forming a Jinton [

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], Kisame can hit him with his Suikodan technique before he completes it. Ohnoki also hasn't shown the ability to use the Rock Golem technique while creating a Jinton, simply because the needs to focus to make the Jinton.

Also, let's not forget that Kisame can use his one thousand shark wave to bring down Ohnoki. [

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Alright, now on to part II of the counter, here you can see how Bee could sustain his V2 form inside the water dome [

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], this basically tells us that Ninjutsu can be used inside it. Then we can safely say that with Onoki's flight, he could make his body lighter in order to fly up the dome and outside of it. The reason Bee didn't do it is simply because he can't fly, and he had the two others to take care of.

To further back up my statement, if you were to drown, anyone's basic reaction would be to go up. There is nothing that could hint that Onoki would not do this.​

Yes, it's true that you can still use Ninjutsu in there, but it would help Kisame if it absorbs Ohnoki's Chakra even a little bit. Now you claim that Ohnoki would be able to fly out of the Dome, but you are forgetting that he would be slower underwater. Killer Bee was fast only due to him being an Octopus. [

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] Kisame stated that Killer Bee really is an Octopus. There's a scan which hints that Sabuchan and Ponta would be unable to escape it so Killer Bee had to get them out. [

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] Killer Bee stated that ''At this rate, Sabuchan and Ponta will drown''. Furthermore, when Killer Bee tried to escape the Water Dome, Kisame said ''You can't escape it. You're at too much of a disadvantage.'' [

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] Ohnoki won't be able to escape the Water Dome just because he is slower while Kisame is faster underwater so Kisame will keep on blitzing him just like he blitzed Bee. [

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] Not to mention that when Kisame will be blitzing him, he would be touching him as well so he would suck up Ohnoki's Chakra.

You may be right about this though, since Jinton is chakra, Kisame might be able to absorb it. However, I wonder how well Samehada would handle absorbing a Kekkei Tota, which contains three chakra natures, also hinting that this technique requires a massive amount of chakra to perform, backed up by the fact that Muu can't use Jinton while split. Now let's take another look at the large scale Jinton that Onoki can perform, like I already explained earlier, he can choose to wipe the map clean with a huge Jinton [

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], can Kisame really absorb it?

What also backs up by statement, is that Samehada might only be able to absorb upon physical contact, nevertheless its range is not very large. And since Jinton first encompasses the target, we could confirm that its initial state is a form of intangibility [

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] ( First, the cube moves around Sasuke without touching him, then the technique activates, and the border serves as a shield in order to contain the blast )​

It's true that Jinton is a Kekkei Tota, however, it's doubtful that is uses more Chakra than Bee's V1 and V2 forms have. Kisame was able to absorb Bee's V1 and V2 forms [

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] so I don't see why it wouldn't be able to absorb Jinton. I already said that Samehada doesn't need to make physical contact in order to absorb Chakra. It just needs to be close to it's target. Look at the bottom left panel. [

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] Jinton may have a form of intangibility, but it's still made out of Chakra so it can be absorbed.

While it is true that GSB can absorb Jinton, although the two techniques are so different it would probably look weird, I don't think GSB is fast enough to hit Onoki, it's never been shown to be a fast technique, since it still took some time for Kisame to realize it couldn't absorb Hirudora, when both techniques were moving towards each other at great speed, perhaps while casting Jinton, Kisame would have an opening, although I think we can all agree on the fact that GSB has slower startup time than Jinton, since it comes from a water source. When GSB is fired head-on, Onoki won't have any problem moving around it, since he's fast enough to fly up to Kabuto and Deidara, while the latter didn't notice until he had already landed a hit on Kabuto. [

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It's good that we agree on GSB being able to absorb Jinton, however, I do think that GSB's start up time isn't really slower than Jinton's. Kisame needs to make two hand signs to make GSB [

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] while Ohnoki has to form the Jinton. Actually, Deidara did notice Ohnoki so they tricked him. You can see that in the same panel you linked me to, there was no ''!!'' sign over Deidara's head [

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] so that means that he wasn't surprised. Ohnoki didn't blitz them, otherwise Deidara would be surprised like he was surprised when Sasuke attacked him. [

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] To further back up my point that Deidara noticed Ohnoki, Kabuto was a Clay Clone which means that they tricked Ohnoki. [

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And about the rock clones, I think Onoki would have the advantage about which is stronger, since rock clones are actually made of rock and will break apart when hit, Kisame won't have an easy time destroying them like he would destroy shadow clones. [

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] Then there's also what I said about Onoki being able to make either Kisame or Samehada heavier, incapacitating them. I honestly think Onoki's clones have the advantage here, especially since they'd be able to use these [

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] These golems are a very good defense against Kisame's Suiton, and with the appropriate weight control, they'd be able to turn Kisame's clones into side dishes ​

It's true that the Rock Clones are made out of Rock, but I think that Kisame's Clones are stronger only due to one thing. Kisame's personal princess; Samehada. The clone of the Samehada has shown to have the abilities the original Samehada would have. [

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] When Guy tried to attack the Fake Kisame with the Fake Samehada, the Fake Samehada used that spike ability of hers to damage Guy's hands so that he would let go of her. The Original Samehada used the same ability on Kisame when it left him for Bee. [

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] 'Dat Samehada. What a cold hearted bitch. u_u

Now what am I trying to say with this? Fake Samehada can use the same abilities the Original Samehada has. This means that if Kisame uses Water Clones, their Fake Samehadas will be able to merge with them and they will be able to absorb Chakra. This means that if Ohnoki's Rock Clones come near Kisame's Water Clones, the Fake Samehadas will absorb the Chakra used on those Rock Clones. Even if the Rock Clones can use Ohnoki's weight Technique, it's still a jutsu that uses Chakra. Fake Samehadas will absorb that Chakra. Don't forget that please.

Onoki's Offense, Part II
This is a bit short since I did majority of this while countering your posts.

The first thing I'd like to point out, is that after Onoki escapes the water dome, he'd have a perfect opening to counterattack, increasing the weight of the water to suffocate Kisame. Since nobody has probably ever flown out of his water dome before, Kisame will probably run out of options for a short time, since this is arguably his strongest technique. Not only could Kisame potentially die of getting a fatal injury to his organs, but his water dome would surely not be able to sustain its own weight, and collapse on top of Kisame. I'm fairly certain this would finish Kisame off since Onoki could even make a meteor light enough for Gaara's sand to sustain it. [

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] This would basically turn the water dome into Kisame's undoing.

That would be a horrible mistake on Ohnoki's part. Like I said, the Weight Technique uses Chakra so if Ohnoki uses it on the Water Dome, Kisamehada will just keep on absorbing that Chakra since it would be going throught th whole Dome. Basically, Ohnoki would be giving Kisame free Chakra.

Now let me say that even if Ohnoki escapes the Water Dome by some miracle, this is a fight to the death. Ohnoki will have to finish off Kisame in order to win this battle. I already proved that Ohnoki can't really use his Jinton more than, I don't know, about three or four times and even those Jintons will be countered by Kisame. What I want to say is that Kisame has a lot more Chakra than Ohnoki since he has Chakra levels on par with a Bijuu. [

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] So he can outlast him if he can't get to him. Not to mention that Kisame would basically be absorbing all of Ohnoki's Techniques.

Now going back to Jinton for a bit, looking at the scan I showed where Onoki destroyed the Flower Tree Crap and Madara's Susano'o, a Jinton of that size could seriously injure Kisame since, like I said, Samehada is a melee weapon. It also doesn't cover 360 degrees, which Jinton does, meaning Jinton will injure, if not fatally injure, Kisame. Whether Kisame can react in time to decrease the damage by absorbing the impact, I don't know. Also note that one of the elements that make Jinton would be Katon, Samehada's weakness, further adding to the fact that Samehada might not be able to absorb the impact in time.

Kisame doesn't need to react, Samehada will react. Actually, it can cover 360 degrees, but only in his Kisamehada form. [

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] It also sais ''This Kisame is devoid of weaknesses.'' so that would mean that Kisamehada can cover 360 degrees. Jinton does indeed have a Katon part, but let me show you that Jinton is works like Deidara's Explosion Style despite Jinton being a Kekkei Tota. Deidara's Kekkei Genkai is made out of Doton and Katon. When Deidara uses his Clay Bombs, he first makes their shape and then makes them expand or scatter by using Doton. [

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] After that he makes the bombs explode by using his Katon part of the Kekkei Genkai. [

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You see, this is how Ohnoki's Jinton also works. The intagibility form is made out of Fuuton, the shield that keeps the explosion inside Jinton's barriers is made out of Doton and the Jinton's explosion is made out of Katon. If Kisame absorbs the Jinton before it explodes, there won't be a problem. And it's likely for him to absorb it before it explodes due to, I repeat, Samehada being able to absorb Killer Bee's V1 cloak in a blink of an eye. [

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Simply magnificent. U_U

The Sexy Beast that is Kisame shits on Ohnoki.​

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Just look at how much effort Sexysame puts into it.​

BTW..

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That's some sexy Ohnoki porn you got there

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[Optimistic]

Why is the turnt up joke being used by everyone now?

 

[Zexion~]

Ya lol...PC should use it ^_^ Perhaps people who were on turnt up have an excuse