Kisame and Tobirama: think he can create as much water...?

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...or would that not happen, as it would take away from Kisame...

Side note: think we'll see more of Kisame as an Edo like we did of that one guy that was beheaded and buried...? (Forgot his name xD)
 

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Tobirama is the best suiton shinobi.
Kisame is pretty good though.
 

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Chakra wise Kisame>Tobirama (I think)
I don't think we'll see Kisame or Hidan again... but I could be wrong.. DUN DUN DAAAAAAAAA
 

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kisame > tobirama
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tobirama can create much water than kisame
 

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I think Kisame surpassed Tobirama in terms of suiton jutsu's
I mean he is a damn strong shinobi he can beat all bijuu's up to 8tails

Kisame with samehada > Tobirama
 

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tobirama is better on creating water, BUT. kisame is stronger on water.
 

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Tobirama > Kisame in terms of water techs
Tobirama with S/T, ET, Kenjutsu, Senju body > Kisame in terms of overall ninja techs
Kisame is strong, but Tobirama is Legendary!
 

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Tobirama > Kisame in terms of water techs
Tobirama with S/T, ET, Kenjutsu, Senju body > Kisame in terms of overall ninja techs
Kisame is strong, but Tobirama is Legendary!

You should crop out Tsunade out of your sig pic...
 

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kisame beats tobirama on everything end of thread.
 

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Tobirama=Hype and the hype he got about his water style isn't anything special for a normal Jonin/Kage.

Kisame=Creates an ocean in a desert.
 

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Tobirama=Hype and the hype he got about his water style isn't anything special for a normal Jonin/Kage.

Kisame=Creates an ocean in a desert.

You will be surprised once tobirama showcased his kage level water techniques.
He just didn't have much screen time yet, but the way its going he will be epic.
 

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Tobirama has shown piss all Suiton techs and he isn't even famous for using them either, Everytime this dude is brought up its because of Edo Tensei, putting this featless shinobi above Kisame is disgusting
 

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Tobirama has shown piss all Suiton techs and he isn't even famous for using them either, Everytime this dude is brought up its because of Edo Tensei, putting this featless shinobi above Kisame is disgusting
If guy sensei could defeat Kisame, I don't see why Tobirama can't.
Unless you are telling me that even Guy is greater than a Hokage, brother of Hashirama who defeated Izuna.
 

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If guy sensei could defeat Kisame, I don't see why Tobirama can't.
Unless you are telling me that even Guy is greater than a Hokage, brother of Hashirama who defeated Izuna.
Guy might be able to. After all, he has all 8 Gates at his disposal and it's been said that the Gates grant temporary but incredible power, more than a Kage.
 

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Seeing as a watered-down version of Tobirama was able to effortlessly counter Hiruzen's katon even without a nearby water source, and was immediately said to have been partaking in a Kage-level ninjutsu battle based on just one jutsu by ANBU-level shinobi (who even said that they'd never seen a battle of that magnitude before, even though it was only seconds into the fight), I'm going to have to give this to him.

I mean, we've seen the difference between a weakened Part 1 Hashirama's mokuton and Part 2 Hashirama's mokuton. Although there was likely not a proportional relationship, if Tobirama's suiton jump is even close to what Hashirama's mokuton jump was, he will not only be shown to be the best, but by far.

By pure mastery, not only a weakened version of Tobirama has been shown to utilize suiton effectively enough to counter the katon of that of Hiruzen, the Sandaime Hokage, but also has been shown to bring down the hand seals of a jutsu down from 44 (the largest amount of hand seals for any jutsu in the manga) to just 1.

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Tobirama has shown piss all Suiton techs and he isn't even famous for using them either, Everytime this dude is brought up its because of Edo Tensei, putting this featless shinobi above Kisame is disgusting

Exactly this. I keep on reading how Tobirama is the best suiton user and how he can create more water then Kisame...are we reading the same manga or...?

He creates a giant lake that is stories deep in the middle of the desert with less then 30% of his chakra

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Creates a giant dome of water comparable in size to mountains

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Creates 1,000 shark bombs

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And possess a suiton technique capable of swallowing and absorbing any ninjutsu technique thrown at it

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As of right now Kisame is clearly the best suiton user, like it shouldn't even be debatable. Is this subject to change when we see Tobirama fight? Absolutely.
 

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You should crop out Tsunade out of your sig pic...
character bashing is against the rules. he literally has absolutely no reason to do so
Tobirama > Kisame in terms of water techs
tobiramas water was pathetic tiny fodder compared to the massive lakes kisame was pulling out, as well as the sheer versatility. even darui is equal to tobiramas suiton
Tobirama with S/T, ET, Kenjutsu, Senju body > Kisame in terms of overall ninja techs
we dont know anything about his space time jutsu or how it works, his ET is fodder incomplete and easily neutralised as no strong ninjas existed back then that havent used up their summoning time with kabuto. 99% of all senjus are worthless garbage fodder. he has little to no kenjutsu showings whereas kisame matched suigetsu

tobirama can create much water than kisame
no he cant. hes never shown he can. never stated he can. never implied he can. meaning you made shit up
Tobirama is the best suiton shinobi.
tobirama is the worst suiton shinobi. vastly inferior to mei and kisame. would barely match the feats of darui and kabuto. his only offensive suiton was compeltely and utterly worthless and didnt do jack to hiruzens mud wall. kisame would break that down in a milisecond
tobirama is better on creating water,
he couldnt eb more inferior or worse if he tried
 
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