[Predictions] Kisame and Madara Great Theory

[W4532]

Hello alright guys i have writing this for about a straight week checking and rechecking if it is right for the last few days. Get Ready To be Amazed. Na just joking but i do rate it

I have never believed Itachi to be stronger member of the Itachi-Kisame duo. Kisame's questions to Itachi about his motivations are of a teasing nature and to me it does not seem like he follows Itachi because of the authority he has over him but rather out of curiosity to what this funny little blind guy is going to do next. When Kisame says Itachi is 'sooo ruthless' and we now know how Itachi really is and what his real goals are, don't you feel the sarcasm in Kisame's question? When he says it looks like Itachi is crying, doesn't it feel like he's making fun of him?

Also and this is the real point of the topic, let's not forget that Kisame knows Madara indirectly as the Mizukage and has a hidden agenda because he said when Tobi revealed himself that now his job is easier. If anything, all signs point to Kisame having been appointed to be a sort of guard dog keeping watch over Itachi.

I will explain this if you don't understand.

As we know Madara was secretly behind Akatsuki on a certain level, their Pain's guys but the organisation seems to be Madara's doing. When Madara found out about Itachi joining Akatsuki, he may have sent Kisame on a mission to become a missing nin and join Akatsuki he gave this mission to the most powerful and trustworthy ninja in the land of mist Kisame i think he was chosen for this important mission because Kisame saved Madara/Mizukage live or helped him when Zabuza lead a coup d'?tat with the other seven sowrdsman minus Kisame.

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So when Kisame joined Akatsuki his second mission was to keep tabs on Itachi and perhaps Akatsuki as a whole. Madara would do this because he fears Itachi, as he is one of the few to be able to touch him. Then when Tobi reveals himself, Kisame is relieved and says that his job is easier now.

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So Madara says Kisame was closest to him all along, yet we can't help but notice that he is a missing nin. Usually missing nin aren't exactly close to their Kage, right? Something doesn't fit in here, and Kisame being on an undercover mission sent by the Mizukage just might explain it.

I would not be surprised at all, if at some point when Kisame gets his epic battle, he will claim to be infinately more powerfull than Itachi. In fact when that happens I will link everyone to this post. Certainly Itachi is strong, that's undeniable and not the issue at all, but due to the Uchiha hype lately, perhaps people have closed their minds to the possibility that all along Kisame was intended to be stronger.

Seriously, when you consider this and go back to read the conversations between Itachi and Kisame they had in the past, you read them suddenly from a completely new perspective and they still make sense. This would be great writing on Kishi's part if he dared to pull it off.

Man o man that is the longest posted i have ever done please tell me what you think

 

[Miggy69]

good job it is kinda of a farfected but it is possible it makes sense

 

[W4532]

good job it is kinda of a farfected but it is possible it makes sense

thanks yea it just a theory that i kind if see happening but who knows with kishi i would of bet that J Man wasnt going to die and would advise naruto as hokage but that ant going to happen

 

[Elessar]

Interesting idea. Thanks! Its a good read ^_^

 

[QwertyHero]

Hello alright guys i have writing this for about a straight week checking and rechecking if it is right for the last few days. Get Ready To be Amazed. Na just joking but i do rate it

I have never believed Itachi to be stronger member of the Itachi-Kisame duo. Kisame's questions to Itachi about his motivations are of a teasing nature and to me it does not seem like he follows Itachi because of the authority he has over him but rather out of curiosity to what this funny little blind guy is going to do next. When Kisame says Itachi is 'sooo ruthless' and we now know how Itachi really is and what his real goals are, don't you feel the sarcasm in Kisame's question? When he says it looks like Itachi is crying, doesn't it feel like he's making fun of him?

Also and this is the real point of the topic, let's not forget that Kisame knows Madara indirectly as the Mizukage and has a hidden agenda because he said when Tobi revealed himself that now his job is easier. If anything, all signs point to Kisame having been appointed to be a sort of guard dog keeping watch over Itachi.

I will explain this if you don't understand.

As we know Madara was secretly behind Akatsuki on a certain level, their Pain's guys but the organisation seems to be Madara's doing. When Madara found out about Itachi joining Akatsuki, he may have sent Kisame on a mission to become a missing nin and join Akatsuki he gave this mission to the most powerful and trustworthy ninja in the land of mist Kisame i think he was chosen for this important mission because Kisame saved Madara/Mizukage live or helped him when Zabuza lead a coup d'?tat with the other seven sowrdsman minus Kisame.

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So when Kisame joined Akatsuki his second mission was to keep tabs on Itachi and perhaps Akatsuki as a whole. Madara would do this because he fears Itachi, as he is one of the few to be able to touch him. Then when Tobi reveals himself, Kisame is relieved and says that his job is easier now.

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So Madara says Kisame was closest to him all along, yet we can't help but notice that he is a missing nin. Usually missing nin aren't exactly close to their Kage, right? Something doesn't fit in here, and Kisame being on an undercover mission sent by the Mizukage just might explain it.

I would not be surprised at all, if at some point when Kisame gets his epic battle, he will claim to be infinately more powerfull than Itachi. In fact when that happens I will link everyone to this post. Certainly Itachi is strong, that's undeniable and not the issue at all, but due to the Uchiha hype lately, perhaps people have closed their minds to the possibility that all along Kisame was intended to be stronger.

Seriously, when you consider this and go back to read the conversations between Itachi and Kisame they had in the past, you read them suddenly from a completely new perspective and they still make sense. This would be great writing on Kishi's part if he dared to pull it off.

Man o man that is the longest posted i have ever done please tell me what you think

Pretty nice theory, I like it, but it doesn't seem wholly possible.
Kisame became a Missing-Nin some time before Zabuza attempted the Coup d'etat, and he presumably left the land of water entirely because the Land of Water believed he was involved in the Coup d'etat. The Land of Water has been trying to find and kill Kisame all this time, so I doubt he would stay in the country. If he wasn't in the country, I doubt him and Madara spoke often because Kage's generally never leave the country let alone the village they reside.
It seems pretty possible for Kisame to kill Itachi, he would DEFINITELY give Itachi a run for his money, especially since Kisame's a water user, and Itachi is a prominent fire user. Kisame, at 100% power, would be A LOT faster than Itachi. Kisame can also take Itachi out of his element by turning the battlefield into a lake, which would no doubt through him off. I think the only 2 things that would make Kisame lose that fight would be Itachi's sharingan, Tsukuyomi, Amaterasu, and Susanoo.
With Sharingan Itachi can see Kisame's movements, even if he's going at blazing speeds. I think any Genjutsu, especially Tsukuyomi, would be a problem for Kisame.
Kisame likes to fight close up with Samehada and close range water jutsu, and I think it would be easy for Itachi to catch him with a Genjutsu if he were fighting him in close range because all he needs to do is point at you and your trapped.
Amaterasu could probably evaporate the lake that Kisame produces due to it's intense heat. And not only that, Amaterasu would be chasing him throughout the entire fight, which would no doubt be difficult even with his incredible speed, because how long can he avoid it before it catches him?
And, of course, Susanoo.
Basically, Susanoo could shut down the fight if shit got desperate, weather or not Susanoo works in water has yet to be seen, but if it does it could spell death for Kisame.
Even still, I wonder if Kisame could trap Susanoo in some kind of water prison?
Would that work?
Hmmm, I wish they would have fought!
That would have been a dope ass fight.

 

[W4532]

Hey QwertyHero yea it would be a intense fight it would be awsome to see both of them fight it out

Where did you get your info from about Kisame became a Missing-Nin and the time frame because i have looked in wikipedia and Narutopedia and the time frame fits well i think it dose

Interesting idea. Thanks! Its a good read ^_^

thanks alot no problem

 

[twistedlink]

Kisame has a buttload of chakra, that puts him in the same league as naruto, only kisame is older and more experienced, he also appears to not be totally human, and like suigetsu might have some weird bloodlimit, i mean suigetsu turned into a shark for christ sakes.

Ive always thought kisame was great.

However itachi still has totsuka and yatas mirror, take them away from him and kisame would pwn itachi most likely, but still.

remember kisames sword eats chakra, it even stopped the kyubii coming out of naruto, he also didnt appear too scared of jiraiya now i come to think of it...when they first tried to capture him...

Itachi fled but kisame appeared to be smiling and enjoying the experience, and yes, he did now i think of it sound sarcastic about itachi...

It appears kisame knew itachis intentions too because when they first appeared kisame said "i thought you hated your village" and itachi said "i do"

It appears kisame always did make innocent rermarks with other meanings behind them...

 

[Mangenkyou Maoh]

hmmm...at first i think suigetsu and kisame are the same in level..
you say kisame are working under madara? i think that madara trying to use him using the sharingan,looking at the image...kisame's eyes are,very scared of something

 

[twistedlink]

suigetsu and kisame at the same level?

Thats a massive insult to kisame, he is way above suigetsus level, it took sasuke and the 3 other members to take out 8tails, yet kisame and itachi were assigned to the 9tails-much stronger than 8 tails when in 4tails mode even.

suigetsu got owned every time he went near 8tails, kisame wouldnt.

Kisames eyes have always been small and bloodshot, look at every picture and anime of him.


Though...sharingan can control tailed beasts through genjutsu, in theory this means they can control other animals...and kisame is very shark like...Maybe madara is controlling kisame, but then why fake that conversation where kisame finds out tobi is madara, its pointless, so...no...

 

[W4532]

hey Mangenkyou Maoh
na i would dout it that Suigetsu is the at the same level as Kisame Sasuke even say's that he wasnt at the same levle as him when Suigetsu atacked Tobi/Madra stops him it was in just a recent ep maby 10 back i cant realy remba which 1 but if sum1 in the same team as them thinks he cant take him with Sasuke knowing Suigetsu full abilities and what only seeing Kisame only a few times and not in battle or seeing his full power also Suigetsu is a telented ninja and everything but for him to stand up to Kisame a fully fleged Akatsuki member he is far to weak

what picture were you talking about with Kisame being scard

 

[Mangenkyou Maoh]

no...i mean his not scared but his eyes are like 'scared'...lol
the image when he first saw mizukage.."i mean madara"

 

[Tsukuyomi]

From my point of view Madara just played the Mizukage. I would not believe it, cause his only intention as Mizukage was to kill the Hokage. It was just a coup d'?tat from Uchicha Madara. Even if he would've been the Mizukage it would not fit to his character trades. He would not spent his time doing some shit with annoying papers which enraged tsunade in the beginning aswell.

Moreover Madara is the true founder of Akatsuki therefore he must have founded the organisation before he might became mizukage. (cause he has to travel to those missing nin to persuade them of his own intentions)

Remember that Kisame is the only real Jinchuuriki that's revealed by Kishi (or his sword).


I definitely doubt that Madara worked as Mizukage. And kisame was just a missing nin.

My point of view

 

[Mangenkyou Maoh]

hmm...i think your right there!

 

[twistedlink]

Kisames a real jinchuriki?

eerrrm....what??

kisame stated madara was mizukage, and kisame didnt look scared, he looked scared when tobi was releasing the mask, after the mask was released kisame is smiling.

The reason kisame was drawn with a scared look is because nobody knows who tobi is, and he survived deidaras mushroom cloud making bomb, as such kisame knows tobi must be one hell of a tough dude, its just to raise atmosphere.

It appears though that kisame and madara have been close in the past, as madara himself states so

 

[Achilles]

interesting!!! its a gud one

 

[Koo]

awsome

 

[MS_Evolution]

this is a good post, well done

 

[Mangenkyou Maoh]

Kisames a real jinchuriki?

eerrrm....what??

kisame stated madara was mizukage, and kisame didnt look scared, he looked scared when tobi was releasing the mask, after the mask was released kisame is smiling.

The reason kisame was drawn with a scared look is because nobody knows who tobi is, and he survived deidaras mushroom cloud making bomb, as such kisame knows tobi must be one hell of a tough dude, its just to raise atmosphere.

It appears though that kisame and madara have been close in the past, as madara himself states so

hmmm...i wonder why are close to each other

 

[QwertyHero]

Hey QwertyHero yea it would be a intense fight it would be awsome to see both of them fight it out

Where did you get your info from about Kisame became a Missing-Nin and the time frame because i have looked in wikipedia and Narutopedia and the time frame fits well i think it dose



thanks alot no problem

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Right here, it says Kisame was the first to abandon the Seven Swordsman, LATER Zabuza attempted the Coup d'etat.

Kisames a real jinchuriki?

eerrrm....what??

kisame stated madara was mizukage, and kisame didnt look scared, he looked scared when tobi was releasing the mask, after the mask was released kisame is smiling.

The reason kisame was drawn with a scared look is because nobody knows who tobi is, and he survived deidaras mushroom cloud making bomb, as such kisame knows tobi must be one hell of a tough dude, its just to raise atmosphere.

It appears though that kisame and madara have been close in the past, as madara himself states so

Yea, Kisame knew Tobi was a little more than a hapless dope, but you know Kisame, he just lays in the cut until things unfold, he's not one to actually ask HOW Tobi survived the big bomb or something. I think he was less frightened and more anxious to see what was under Tobi's mask.
But then again, he may have been scared because he saw his sharingan.
Kisame knows first hand what power the sharingan has, and I wouldn't be surprised if he was shaking when he saw it.
But yea, Kisame is only scared or concerned when he ISN'T smiling, which is almost never.

 

[W4532]

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Right here, it says Kisame was the first to abandon the Seven Swordsman, LATER Zabuza attempted the Coup d'etat.

maby then that is when Kisame was sent on the mission 2 join Akatsuki befor the coup d'?tat that still works i think but it put a hole in my theory