venusceller
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Then most powerful technique ist chibaku tensei! It completely seals/catches the Juubi and creates the whole moon! Not even rasen-shuriken, jinton and Kirin together would be stronger than this!
Kirin, the most powerful jutsu ever?
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AngelSasuke
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Kirin isnt weak for not killing Itachi, Itach is just very strong in defence thanks to the Yata Mirror. It repels _every_ attack (stated by manga/anime) untill Kishimoto decides to change it.
Black Zetsu (Madara´s will) stated that the Yata Mirror and Totsuka Sword make Itachi practically invincible.
Itachi also did not react physically. He saw it coming with his MS (Sharingan ability to slow down movement/read attacks) and activated his Susano´o. Everything happened in his mind. He would not of been able to dodge it pyhsically.
Kirin may not be the strongest offensive technique (I dont believe that there is a strongest technique, it depends on the enemy) but its !easily! top 10, more likely top 5. The great thing is that it pretty much has no limit. Now that Sasuke has EMS he could probably spam Amaterasu all over the place (over a really huge area) and create a Kirin thats 100x bigger than the one in the Itachi fight. That would even get the current Juubi in serious trouble.
Im starting to dream..an Amaterasu coated Kirin would be badass
Black Zetsu (Madara´s will) stated that the Yata Mirror and Totsuka Sword make Itachi practically invincible.
Itachi also did not react physically. He saw it coming with his MS (Sharingan ability to slow down movement/read attacks) and activated his Susano´o. Everything happened in his mind. He would not of been able to dodge it pyhsically.
Kirin may not be the strongest offensive technique (I dont believe that there is a strongest technique, it depends on the enemy) but its !easily! top 10, more likely top 5. The great thing is that it pretty much has no limit. Now that Sasuke has EMS he could probably spam Amaterasu all over the place (over a really huge area) and create a Kirin thats 100x bigger than the one in the Itachi fight. That would even get the current Juubi in serious trouble.
Im starting to dream..an Amaterasu coated Kirin would be badass
Well done; You, Emp3Ror,and a few others have given excellent responses... I think this may be one of the first threads on the Base I have seen with so little taunting and arguing. Simple debate, facts, scenarios, and all in such a polite tone. Plus rep/thanks for all of you.
My low post count is not due to me not being active in every thread that interests me, it's simply that few do, and I am... a man of few words perhaps.
Props.
My low post count is not due to me not being active in every thread that interests me, it's simply that few do, and I am... a man of few words perhaps.
Props.
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Naruto king of Shinobi
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I agree, but since wind > lightning I think rasenshuriken would defeat it if they clashed
Naruto king of Shinobi
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Narutos rasenshurkin, Bee's TBB, and Itachis magatama obliterated chibaku tensei
BijuuNaruto1
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its greatest ally is its greatest weakness it uses the clouds meaning if the needed enviornment isn't there one must make it altough it is strong the fact tht the long prep time is there hinders it so its far from the most strongest/best jutsu the ideal strongest/best jutsu would be one thts quick nd effective jinton has 3 phase with the conical version strong enough to destroy an island nd doesn't need ridiculus prep time not saying its the strongest but in terms on feats against kirin it is better
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RasenUchihaChaos
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Re: Kirin is the strongest Jutsu. Is it???
getsuga tensho and its other forms KO all 3! but good thread though
getsuga tensho and its other forms KO all 3! but good thread though
venusceller
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YEAH all "3" attacks together were destroying the chibaku! But I´m not talking about this small one! I´m refering to the chibaku with the size of the moon.
Hey, am not being in support of the preta path,, but to say lightning aint chakra? Guy rethink. As long as lightning is an element, found in nature, it can be considered as nature chakra energy in which over absorption by the preta path will make preta undergo the petrified toad formation.
I will keep it reaally simple with a Part I sentence:
This is Kakashis Raikiri it is said that he used it to cut a lightning bolt in two.
Even Kakashis trademark attack can split Kirin ... The only reason Kirin was considered extremely cool was because sasuke was out of chakra but thought of a way to still rip out a strong attack .. That does not make the attack itself that great but the situational effect was great.
Creation of All Things is the most powerful technique ever but only the Sage can use it and some Sharingan users but they can only use it for Izanagi which forces you to lose the eye it is casted with.
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I would like to throw my two cents into this well of debate as well, if there are no objections.
Kirin is indeed highly powerful. It's lightning incarnate, and it can be aimed. It is, however, only TRULY useful in finishing off an opponent which is incapacitated, yet extremely hard to kill (examples... Kakuzu/almost any Uzumaki/Orochimaru/Snake Cloak Kabuto/someone who can regenerate quickly/a Kage/Danzou/Gai or Lee with Gates, probably 5 or more open would cause them to be very hard to off). Coupled with perhaps a hard beating beforehand after which the opponent would be hard-pressed to move quickly, or Ino's Mind-Transfer, or the Nara clan's Kagemane... this theoretically incomplete Kirin which we have seen already may belong in that category that comes as the final strike against an immobilized opponent, even despite it's literal lightning speed.
Kirin's potential? I am sure we have not seen it. Sasuke seemed to have a great deal of faith in Kirin's usefulness in one on one battle with little to no attempts to keep the target in one place, even against Itachi (after all, did he not say himself that this was a jutsu he had developed for the sole purpose of defeating Itachi?), and seemed confused when it didn't work. He clearly thought it would fast enough, strong enough, etc... to kill Itachi. This says to me that the one time we saw it being used, Kirin was, perhaps, INCOMPLETE.
Now, however, let us come to present time. We have a new, potentially stupidly powerful Sasuke who will most likely make very good use of Kirin; developing it in ways that will allow it to strike multiple times in lightning-quick succession... or with multiple bolts... maybe electrifying the area around it, creating a version of a much greater scale (which could perhaps be done in many other ways as well... after all, the ground being electrified isn't exactly close to perfect or even hard to avoid... a much bigger lightning bolt, if possible, would be far more effective I would think), etc. Surely it will also be more powerful.
Coupled with Amaterasu to chase the opponent around, a good battlefield (a place where there isn't much space to run away, such as a canyon, a maze, a mountain, open water, or what have you, I see Kirin as being very, very problematic and deadly to any opponent without the means to counter it, partially because I don't see a completely perfected, Sasuke-designed Kirin being something that would be easy to escape, prep time or no. And even with prep time, I mean come on. Susano'hello?
Susano'o eliminates the option to attack effectively during the prep time for most opponents, especially close-range specialists.
The Susano'o arrow (IF it is able to be fired whilst prepping Kirin... if not, probably still would be enough time if Sasuke just fired it right before, at least in my opinion) is quite hard to dodge.... and the Sharingan itself, let's not forget, allows Sasuke to see/know just about exactly where the struck target will end up. Stick em to a tree for all he cares, hell. If they aren't already dead from the arrow, which is most likely many times slower than Kirin and yet so damned fast, then anyone following my logic ought to know what comes next in this here scenario.
Kirin is fired now. Fried shinobi.
Perhaps to some that seemed like a long explanation, but go over it in your head after you fully understand it, and you will notice that any of the scenarios within that wall of coloured text would take very little time, and yet allow for much more time than it would take (most likely, and obviously depending on the opponent). Kirin is most certainly NOT the most POWERFUL jutsu, but is potentially one of the deadliest when used strategically. Sasuke, much like Shikamaru, is a highly intelligent, calm/collected, and effective strategist... in case there is anyone who hasn't noticed.
Thanks to those of you who read this.
Kirin is indeed highly powerful. It's lightning incarnate, and it can be aimed. It is, however, only TRULY useful in finishing off an opponent which is incapacitated, yet extremely hard to kill (examples... Kakuzu/almost any Uzumaki/Orochimaru/Snake Cloak Kabuto/someone who can regenerate quickly/a Kage/Danzou/Gai or Lee with Gates, probably 5 or more open would cause them to be very hard to off). Coupled with perhaps a hard beating beforehand after which the opponent would be hard-pressed to move quickly, or Ino's Mind-Transfer, or the Nara clan's Kagemane... this theoretically incomplete Kirin which we have seen already may belong in that category that comes as the final strike against an immobilized opponent, even despite it's literal lightning speed.
Kirin's potential? I am sure we have not seen it. Sasuke seemed to have a great deal of faith in Kirin's usefulness in one on one battle with little to no attempts to keep the target in one place, even against Itachi (after all, did he not say himself that this was a jutsu he had developed for the sole purpose of defeating Itachi?), and seemed confused when it didn't work. He clearly thought it would fast enough, strong enough, etc... to kill Itachi. This says to me that the one time we saw it being used, Kirin was, perhaps, INCOMPLETE.
Now, however, let us come to present time. We have a new, potentially stupidly powerful Sasuke who will most likely make very good use of Kirin; developing it in ways that will allow it to strike multiple times in lightning-quick succession... or with multiple bolts... maybe electrifying the area around it, creating a version of a much greater scale (which could perhaps be done in many other ways as well... after all, the ground being electrified isn't exactly close to perfect or even hard to avoid... a much bigger lightning bolt, if possible, would be far more effective I would think), etc. Surely it will also be more powerful.
Coupled with Amaterasu to chase the opponent around, a good battlefield (a place where there isn't much space to run away, such as a canyon, a maze, a mountain, open water, or what have you, I see Kirin as being very, very problematic and deadly to any opponent without the means to counter it, partially because I don't see a completely perfected, Sasuke-designed Kirin being something that would be easy to escape, prep time or no. And even with prep time, I mean come on. Susano'hello?
Susano'o eliminates the option to attack effectively during the prep time for most opponents, especially close-range specialists.
The Susano'o arrow (IF it is able to be fired whilst prepping Kirin... if not, probably still would be enough time if Sasuke just fired it right before, at least in my opinion) is quite hard to dodge.... and the Sharingan itself, let's not forget, allows Sasuke to see/know just about exactly where the struck target will end up. Stick em to a tree for all he cares, hell. If they aren't already dead from the arrow, which is most likely many times slower than Kirin and yet so damned fast, then anyone following my logic ought to know what comes next in this here scenario.
Kirin is fired now. Fried shinobi.
Perhaps to some that seemed like a long explanation, but go over it in your head after you fully understand it, and you will notice that any of the scenarios within that wall of coloured text would take very little time, and yet allow for much more time than it would take (most likely, and obviously depending on the opponent). Kirin is most certainly NOT the most POWERFUL jutsu, but is potentially one of the deadliest when used strategically. Sasuke, much like Shikamaru, is a highly intelligent, calm/collected, and effective strategist... in case there is anyone who hasn't noticed.
Thanks to those of you who read this.
Itachi only survived it because of Yata mirror and Sasuke was completely out of chakra at that point. Had he used it again, it should have been over for Itachi. Kirin is the most powerful nature manipulation technique, and once the clouds are made, it hits its target faster that 1/1000 of a second. It requires very little chakra and so Sasuke can spam it as long as the electrical discharge from clouds allow it. It obliterated the entire mountain top and Sasuke can manipulate the radius at will. This isn't some lightening technique that can be countered with elemental advantage but is raw lightening. People need to keep all these factors in mind. One prepared, I agree, it's quite powerful.