Kirin is a Senjutsu !

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Eh.. I doubt that one.
 

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Well, the truth is that this is still a possibility, and you might be right too.

But if Kishi shows us that Kirin does as much (or maybe more) damage as a Senjutsu Rasengan, then we will prove that what damaged Obito is Natural Energy and not the Mix of the Three components.

Well, I think what I mean makes more sense but you could be right too. But I can picture the black orbs or the white stuff protecting Obito from Kirin, just like with Ama
 

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Well, I think what I mean makes more sense but you could be right too. But I can picture the black orbs or the white stuff protecting Obito from Kirin, just like with Ama

I see what you mean, and as I stated, you might be right.

For now I'm most in the idea of "just natural energy" since it's more general and simple to understand. If Kishimoto does something with "Kirin" we will test which thinking was right.
 

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I see what you mean, and as I stated, you might be right.

For now I'm most in the idea of "just natural energy" since it's more general and simple to understand. If Kishimoto does something with "Kirin" we will test which thinking was right.

Yeah, I agree with you. Nice discussion
 

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Naruto is controlling it inside his body , Sasuke controls it outside his body ( in the atmosphere )

Senjutsu cannot be used outside of the body unless the user is in Sage Mode and first draws in the natural energy. Here is a little info about it from the wiki:
"Senjutsu practitioners learn to draw the energy of nature inside of them, blending it with their own chakra (created from spiritual and physical energy within the shinobi). This adds a new dimension of power to the sage's chakra, resulting in the creation of "senjutsu chakra." This new chakra enables the user to enter an empowered state called Sage Mode, which can then drastically increase the strength of all ninjutsu, genjutsu, and taijutsu."

Kirin = Natural energy + Chidori ( a Normal Chakra base ninjutsu ) to controls it and shaping it into a Dragon.
And Normal Chakra = Spiritual energy + Physical energy.

Kishimoto > you.

Sasuke only uses shape manipulation to mold Kirin after the formation of the storm clouds. He does not necessarily use Chidori to do so. Not to mention that Kirin must first have the storm conditions available, whether already existent or created by Sasuke.
 
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