Kirin is a Senjutsu !

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Senjutsu chakra as stated above = Natural energy + Physical energy + Spiritual energy.
Normal chakra = Physical energy + Spiritual energy.
Kirin = Natural energy + Sasuke's chakra for shaping it into a dragon.

Sasuke isn't a sage but he does have a Senjutsu attack

You may say that its classified as Ninjutsu ,but the manga contradicts it.

One last thing , the power of Kirin depend on the amount of cumulonimbus ( lightning clouds ) in the sky.

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Whether it's technically a Senjutsu or not, the fact that Kirin uses the natural energy of lightning in the atmosphere is enough to make it a viable weapon against Sagebito and we'll probably see it soon.
 

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As much as you'd like for it to be, it isn't.

Senpou was specially reserved for a few characters. However, it is possible that Naruto can pass out nature chakra like he did with Kurama's chakra.
 

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Did Sasuke pour in Senjutsu Chakra to make Kirin possible? No.
 

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This is debatable, although I don't like to admit it. I guess we will see in the upcoming chapters.
 

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I think its different, sasuke used the electricity built up in the storm clouds he created, senjutsu is bringing nature energy into your body and molding it, not the same imo but i think sasuke will have something up his sleeve though seeing as only senjutsu will work on obito. sasuke wont let naruto show him up. lol
 

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Did Sasuke pour in Senjutsu Chakra to make Kirin possible? No.

As much as you'd like for it to be, it isn't.

Senpou was specially reserved for a few characters. However, it is possible that Naruto can pass out nature chakra like he did with Kurama's chakra.


There is a difference between mastering Senjutsu in your body and what Sasuke is doing , facts are here stated by Kishimoto , you don't want to accept it that's fine but don't get shocked when it happens.

kirin is ninjutsu.

You say that in every thread -_-
 

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Whether it's technically a Senjutsu or not, the fact that Kirin uses the natural energy of lightning in the atmosphere is enough to make it a viable weapon against Sagebito and we'll probably see it soon.
what he said but it could be used as a sen attack
 

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Senjutsu chakra as stated above = Natural energy + Physical energy + Spiritual energy.
Normal chakra = Physical energy + Spiritual energy.
Kirin = Natural energy + Sasuke's chakra for shaping it into a dragon.

Sasuke isn't a sage but he does have a Senjutsu attack

You may say that its classified as Ninjutsu ,but the manga contradicts it.

One last thing , the power of Kirin depend on the amount of cumulonimbus ( lightning clouds ) in the sky.

Thanks for reading.

In case u didn't realized any thing abt Kirin....let me show u smthng......

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Senjutsu= Chakra + Natural energy

Kirin= Natural energy

so ur argument is invalid
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I think its different, sasuke used the electricity built up in the storm clouds he created, senjutsu is bringing nature energy into your body and molding it, not the same imo but i think sasuke will have something up his sleeve though seeing as only senjutsu will work on obito. sasuke wont let naruto show him up. lol

Naruto is controlling it inside his body , Sasuke controls it outside his body ( in the atmosphere )
 

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Senjutsu= Chakra + Natural energy

Kirin= Natural energy

so ur argument is invalid
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Kirin = Natural energy + Chidori ( a Normal Chakra base ninjutsu ) to controls it and shaping it into a Dragon.
And Normal Chakra = Spiritual energy + Physical energy.

Kishimoto > you.
 

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There is a difference between mastering Senjutsu in your body and what Sasuke is doing , facts are here stated by Kishimoto , you don't want to accept it that's fine but don't get shocked when it happens.

Every element in Naruto is based off something natural; Fire, Water, Earth, Wind, and Lightening. In accordance the the logic you're presenting, almost everyone can use senpou.
 

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Every element in Naruto is based off something natural; Fire, Water, Earth, Wind, and Lightening. In accordance the the logic you're presenting, almost everyone can use senpou.


There is a difference between transforming your natural chakra into an elements and using natural energy.
Its stated in the manga.
 

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I guess I havent put much thought into it but it makes sense that its nature energy mixed in the lightening.

maybe sasuke has mastered nature energy without telling anyone.
 

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There is a difference between transforming your natural chakra into an elements and using natural energy.

Unless you can prove me wrong, I believe the natural energy that's reffered to in the manga is natural life energy. Essentially energy from living things like plants and animals.
 

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No.

Why can't Sasuke fans grasp the concept of Senjutsu?

There's a difference between naturally occuring energies and senjutsu which is created by forging ones own chakra with nature chakra.

Kirin is ninjutsu.
 

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Kirin = Natural energy + Chidori ( a Normal Chakra base ninjutsu ) to controls it and shaping it into a Dragon.
And Normal Chakra = Spiritual energy + Physical energy.

Kishimoto > you.

Manga clearly stated that Sasuke didn't used his chakra incase ur blind I have no complain's abt that ...............

Manga written by Kishi >>>>>ur fanboy logic's

Dnt talk as if ur Kishi..........

See this


Look at clasification ...it is Ninjutsu...


Combining Chakra with Natural energy and controlng Natural energy with chakra are completly dif things............
 
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Unless you can prove me wrong, I believe the natural energy that's reffered to in the manga is natural life energy. Essentially energy from living things like plants and animals.

Take this example :
Kakashi's Raikiri is Lightning attack , does he use natural lightning to do so ? no , he transforms his chakra into lightning because he has a lightning affinity.

Sasuke use real/natural lightning for Kirin and add to it a little bit of his own chakra to shape it into a dragon and controls it.

Do you understand
 
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