[VS] Killer Bee vs EMS Sasuke

[ARGUS]

Not in Naruto manga.

Lmao, without susanoo sasuke is defenseless
All bee needs is one lariat and sasuke would be almost dead
Hachibi can also eradicate him with Bijuu Wave,
TBB is not even needed to wreck sasuke here

Now I'm certain that you are trolling here.

Instead of telling me that I'm trolling. Id like yu to bring forth some arguments

--Amaterasu is getting countered by bee through removing/replacing his chakra shroud or by simply changing his state

--genjutsu is just non factor in front of partner method

--Without ssusanoo means that sasuke gets blown away by a whirlwind followed by a Bijuu wave or a TBB to kill him

--Without susanoo Means that sasuke is not tanking even cloaked bees attacks seeing how V1 lariat almost killed him, sasuke beating bee without susanoo is a joke

--attempting CQC would also end in sasuke getting overwhelmed just how base bee did in canon

 

[lucario14]

So sasuke's v3 legged susanoo is not restricted and neither is v4 susanoo?

B is not getting through sasuke's v4 susanoo with anything other than a bijuudama. Bijuudama takes time to charge so all sasuke needs to do is summon aoda, who's pretty fast and mount a v3 susanoo on aoda like he did against the juubi and fire a susanoo kagutsuchi arrow GG B.

 

[Haizaki]

Wait...B's reaction to Amaterasu

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He uses his hands and even his tentacles first.

If B tries to cut off his tentacle by himself since Sasuke was the one who cut it before, won't Bee spread the fire? Like how Karin was hit with it upon touched

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[Apêx1]

Wait...B's reaction to Amaterasu

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He uses his hands and even his tentacles first.

If B tries to cut off his tentacle by himself since Sasuke was the one who cut it before, won't Bee spread the fire? Like how Karin was hit with it upon touched

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Good point as well. If Hachibi's hand is under Amateratsu, him cutting the tentacle would mean the tentacle's exit for Bee is sealed shut, and Sasuke can then proceed to Enton the shit out of his tentacle from above thus sealing all exits. Can't believe I didn't think of this..

 

[lanakui8]

So sasuke's v3 legged susanoo is not restricted and neither is v4 susanoo?

B is not getting through sasuke's v4 susanoo with anything other than a bijuudama. Bijuudama takes time to charge so all sasuke needs to do is summon aoda, who's pretty fast and mount a v3 susanoo on aoda like he did against the juubi and fire a susanoo kagutsuchi arrow GG B.

war arc beeʻs bijuudama take no time to charge at all, and can be done so even while moving.

aoda being faster than juubilings doesnʻt mean itʻs faster than a bijuu. And bee doesnʻt even have to hit aoda, nuking the ground next to him ends the snake, or he can fire his bijuuwave.

Wait...B's reaction to Amaterasu

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He uses his hands and even his tentacles first.

If B tries to cut off his tentacle by himself since Sasuke was the one who cut it before, won't Bee spread the fire? Like how Karin was hit with it upon touched

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solution: bee uses the hand thatʻs not ignited by amaterasu to cut off his tail.....

 

[Haizaki]

Good point as well. If Hachibi's hand is under Amateratsu, him cutting the tentacle would mean the tentacle's exit for Bee is sealed shut, and Sasuke can then proceed to Enton the shit out of his tentacle from above thus sealing all exits. Can't believe I didn't think of this..

Thanks man. I just think B's counter to Amaterasu isn't solid enough.

 

[RustledJimmies]

Good point as well. If Hachibi's hand is under Amateratsu, him cutting the tentacle would mean the tentacle's exit for Bee is sealed shut, and Sasuke can then proceed to Enton the shit out of his tentacle from above thus sealing all exits. Can't believe I didn't think of this..

*waits for KidGamer to say that he can't do that because Enton needs contact with Sasuke or his chakra*

 

[lucario14]

war arc beeʻs bijuudama take no time to charge at all, and can be done so even while moving.

aoda being faster than juubilings doesnʻt mean itʻs faster than a bijuu. And bee doesnʻt even have to hit aoda, nuking the ground next to him ends the snake, or he can fire his bijuuwave.

It's fast enough to dodge a bijuudama though. Even sasuke's v3 legged susanoo can dodge a bijuudama seeing as sasuke's sharingan's precog gives him an advantage. After he doges, he can fire an arrow or go close enough to cast amaterasu.

 

[Haizaki]

solution: bee uses the hand thatʻs not ignited by amaterasu to cut off his tail.....

Sasuke would just move his eyes and it would follow through quickly.

Giving the fact that he'll just have to do it continuously like here

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( Notice how Amaterasu is moving as Itachi looks across...He'll just do it with his eyes and have it go across from one hand to the other..Do you get what I mean?

 

[Apêx1]

*waits for KidGamer to say that he can't do that because Enton needs contact with Sasuke or his chakra*

It's true though, doesn't mean that Enton can't be thrown like he did against Gaara, and that Amateratsu will continue even if Sasuke closes his left eye, thus he can utilise his right eye and fire off as many Enton projectiles as he likes as the two Doryoku are separate.

 

[lanakui8]

It's fast enough to dodge a bijuudama though. Even sasuke's v3 legged susanoo can dodge a bijuudama seeing as sasuke's sharingan's precog gives him an advantage. After he doges, he can fire an arrow or go close enough to cast amaterasu.

Why do you think itʻs fast enough to dodge a bijuudama? It doesnʻt really matter since its not dodging the explosion which takes the snake out.

Sasukeʻs legged susanoo powered up by narutoʻs yin+yang kurama chakra cloak and juugoʻs senjutsu is fast enough since it moves as fast as BSM NArutoʻs kyuubi, but without those powers, why would it be fast enough to dodge?

The scenario goes like this, bee fires bijuudama, V3 susanoo sasuke on aoda dodges, bijuudama blows up. What happens to aoda and sasuke?

Sasuke would just move his eyes and it would follow through quickly.

Giving the fact that he'll just have to do it continuously like here

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( Notice how Amaterasu is moving as Itachi looks across...He'll just do it with his eyes and have it go across from one hand to the other..Do you get what I mean?

bee turns around and cuts the tentacle. Sauske canʻt ignite whatʻs not in his field of vision. this is assuming that beeʻs on the pure defensive though and sasukeʻs on the pure offensive, and not a situation where sasuke has to deal with a nuke from bee while heʻs igniting the hachibi.

 

[Apêx1]

Sasuke would just move his eyes and it would follow through quickly.

Giving the fact that he'll just have to do it continuously like here

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( Notice how Amaterasu moves with Sasuke...He'll just do it with his eyes and have it go across from one hand to the other..Do you get what I mean?

Or he just continuously spawns Amateratsu and hits every part of Bee's body [

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bee turns around and cuts the tentacle. Sauske canʻt ignite whatʻs not in his field of vision.

That's what the hawk is for.

 

[lucario14]

Why do you think itʻs fast enough to dodge a bijuudama? It doesnʻt really matter since its not dodging the explosion which takes the snake out.

Sasukeʻs legged susanoo powered up by narutoʻs yin+yang kurama chakra cloak and juugoʻs senjutsu is fast enough since it moves as fast as BSM NArutoʻs kyuubi, but without those powers, why would it be fast enough to dodge?

The scenario goes like this, bee fires bijuudama, V3 susanoo sasuke on aoda dodges, bijuudama blows up. What happens to aoda and sasuke?


bee turns around and cuts the tentacle. Sauske canʻt ignite whatʻs not in his field of vision.

Bijuudama blows up what exactly? The air? Unless B fires it at the ground beneath him but that would take both him and sasuke out. Sasuke could even use reverse summoning and make aoda tank the blast, while he survives.

 

[Haizaki]

Or he just continuously spawns Amateratsu and hits every part of Bee's body [

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That's what the hawk is for.

Good point...even forgot about this.

bee turns around and cuts the tentacle. Sauske canʻt ignite whatʻs not in his field of vision.

How though? That requires the speed to be able to react which B in this form doesn't have.

Sasuke would just have to look at both hands instantly and seeing that the Amterasu won't stop while he's moving his eyes, there's most likely no possibility of B reacting.

 

[lanakui8]

How though? That requires the speed to be able to react which B in this form doesn't have.

Bee in this form has physically blocked amaterasu with both a hand and tentacle with zero knowledge on and before even seeing the technique. With knowledge, he turns around or completely blocks the tech with his tentacles.

Sasuke would just have to look at both hands instantly and seeing that the Amterasu won't stop while he's moving his eyes, there's most likely no possibility of B reacting.

look at the range theyʻll be fighting at, beeʻs knowledge on the technique, beeʻs ability to react to the technique the first time he saw it, and the fact that amaterasu has telltale signs before itʻs used.

 

[lanakui8]

Bijuudama blows up what exactly? The air? Unless B fires it at the ground beneath him but that would take both him and sasuke out. Sasuke could even use reverse summoning and make aoda tank the blast, while he survives.

Wait, so youʻre saying that Aoda and V3 sasuke start the fight right underneath bee and donʻt have to cross a distance before getting to him?

Bee has survived a direct hit from his bijuudama, taking an indirect hit from firing it at the ground is not going to take him out, especially if bee uses his tails to defend against the blast.

Do you even know how reverse summoning works? Aoda has to swallow sasuke, and both get taken to wherever aodaʻs home is which results in BFR win for bee since sasuke has no way of getting back to the battlefield.

 

[lucario14]

Wait, so youʻre saying that Aoda and V3 sasuke start the fight right underneath bee and donʻt have to cross a distance before getting to him?

Bee has survived a direct hit from his bijuudama, taking an indirect hit from firing it at the ground is not going to take him out, especially if bee uses his tails to defend against the blast.

Do you even know how reverse summoning works? Aoda has to swallow sasuke, and both get taken to wherever aodaʻs home is which results in BFR win for bee since sasuke has no way of getting back to the battlefield.

No I'm saying the bijuudama is not going to blow up anywhere near where sasuke and aoda are moving to dodge, unless you think it can detonate in midair or if B fires it underneath him. Yes I do think aoda is fast enough to dodge bijuudama seeing as he was

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. Of course he won't be fast enough to escape the explosion but it won't explode in the first place unless it hits something, otherwise it will

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[ARGUS]

Thanks man. I just think B's counter to Amaterasu isn't solid enough.

bee can counter amaterasu, and its solid

1. if hes in base or his chakra form,

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2. he can also change his state, from base, to V1,, to V2, or from V2 to V1 in-order to get rid of the flames since only the outer layer (which is chakra) is getting affected, and once he changes his state, his body and the location of the flames are also changing,, thus enabling bee to counter the attack

3. if he's in hachibi form,

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meaning he does the same here, and now that he has intel, means

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, therefore enabling him to counter the flames beforee they spread out or do any damage to him

and to top it all off,

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, i dont see why the cloak cant repel amaterasu away,

 

[KidGamer65]

-How does Bee touch Sasuke if Sasuke uses his Hawk? You and Draphsin established that an equal amount of momentum is required for TBB to explode, thus the only thing that will make it explode is the floor. Shooting in the sky should by no means trigger an explosion as the Juubi has shown, so it simply goes down and explodes once it reaches ground level at a distant land. Sasuke on the hawk has more than enough capability to Amateratsu Bee's eyes, and with ease at that.

1. Bijuu Whirlwind tosses him out of the sky.

2. Bijuu Dama hits him anyway since it moves as fast as Susanoo Arrow.

-Hachibi said he lost several limbs, so Bee's plan wasn't a good idea. If he didn't have to regenerate them, then there's no reason for Hachibi to suggest that he he lost his limbs as they would currently be present. Not to mention that his horn never recovered, only his tails have shown to recover. Same applies to the eyes.

Point, but his eyes aren't getting burnt down, not when he can react to Amaterasu, and block with his tentacles.

-You forgot to address this "I misconstrued the Amateratsu's size then. You can see it is nearly as large, if not larger than the Myojinmon as you just stated [

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Bijuu's weren't the size of Myojinmon, given how large Katsuyu was in front of it [

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"=Amateratsu is far larger than Hachibi.

I edited my previous post, but it turns out that you might be right here.

-Bee leaving the tentacle is still highly vulnerable to Sasuke's attacks from above, not to mention that since Hachibi's eyes are burned, he'll never know where Sasuke actually is, and a Base Bee has nothing to counter act an airborne EMS Sasuke with.

1. His eyes won't get burnt down as he has shown to be able to react to Amaterasu, so Sasuke uses it, B covers himself with his tentacles and then uses Octopus Leg Clone.

2. As Benjamin King mentioned, Hachibi can blind Sasuke temporarily with his ink, thus Amaterasu is rendered useless long enough for him to blow Sasuke apart.

3. Bijuu Dama would take Sasuke out, land or sky as there are no speed feats for his hawk that lead me to believe it'll evade something as fast as a Susanoo arrow. Not to mention if he hits the ground, and it goes off, the explosion still kills him as its a Mountain's width and a Mountain's height, and from that far away, Sasuke isn't going to be doing anything to B, so I'm 100% sure he'll be closer.

 

[lanakui8]

No I'm saying the bijuudama is not going to blow up anywhere near where sasuke and aoda are moving to dodge, unless you think it can detonate in midair or if B fires it underneath him.
Yes I do think aoda is fast enough to dodge bijuudama seeing as he was

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. Of course he won't be fast enough to escape the explosion but it won't explode in the first place unless it hits something, otherwise it will

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so bee fires the bijuudama making it explode at the ground beneath sasuke, killing aoda and probably at least destroying sasukeʻs susanoo.

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