It was controlled to an extent. He was rolling around due to the pain, and ended up thinking he can use that to his advantage. Manga never hinted at Bee being capable of cutting it himself in that interval so I have no reason to believe he does. His hands being on Amateratsu simply provides further support to my evidence, he isn't cutting off his tentacles.
Yeah, meaning he controlled it. No reason why he can't do the same here. Him rolling around in Pain didn't stop him then, and its not going to stop him now, and why would his hands on fire stop him from cutting off his tentacle. All you are doing is adding flame, but Hachibi has already shown to deal with the Pain.
That's the way Kishi drew the explosion out to be, it being similar to the other explosions doesn't concern me either. Unless you can get an explanation as to what happened to the Juubi's TBB in his mouth, fact remains that its TBB was the major contributor of that explosion. Argue it all you want, say it's none of your concern when it is, fact remains the Juubi had a TBB in its mouth and it didn't magically disappear. It not being mountain size can be attributed to it not being compressed.
What compression are you talking about? Do you even know what you're talking about here? Because I am 100% sure that you don't. When a Bijuu Dama is compressed, it is shrunk and then ingested and then fired as a wave. There was no compression on the Juubi's Bijuu Dama as it was the same, exact, size.
Juubi's Bijuu Dama is literally the same exact size. Obito was going to nuke the whole alliance and he'd been consistently firing the same strength Bijuu Dama. I have
zero reason to believe it was any weaker, not when everything else disagrees. "Uncompressed Bijuu Dama" is nothing but a baseless assumption for an argument that you came up with to try and explain something that won't change the facts.
So no, that explosion was the Hachibi's unless you want to start arguing that Juubi's Bijuu Dama=Mountain Level Bijuu Dama.
You can't still be comparing them.. Biju Dama is supposed to vaporise over a large scale, a Kirin is supposed to go through things with pure force and penetrative power, added with the attribution of Piercing properties to electricity as Kishi has always done
It didn't do that to the Mountain, so no, you are wrong. It was reduced to rubble. That isn't penetration, nor is it relevant as the size of the attack is Mountain sized, while Itachi's Susanoo isn't, so it didn't receive the full brunt of Kirin either, yet was still obliterated.
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Mentioning its penetration is irrelevant when the amount of the jutsu that actually hit him isn't too far off from what it'll be if a Bijuu Dama hits him, and Bijuu Dama is already much stronger.
Heat is also a massive factor, so fact remains that what affected Itachi's Susano was pure blunt force, heat, and a massive electric current.
Lol. Heat comes from Bijuu Dama as well, nor is it even a major factor.
And Blunt force and penetration can't be apart of the same jutsu, its one or the other or its something different.
Even if you disregard it's penetrative capabilities, its blunt force more than makes up for it when it send his Susano to ground level with blunt force. It's comparable to what Juubito did here [
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Lol, is this some kind of bad joke? Blunt force, penetration, its irrelevant. Kirin hit a Mountain, it didn't penetrate it, and it was reduced to rubble while Bijuu Dama turns them to nothing. It shouldn't be debatable that Bijuu Dama is MUCH stronger.
Lol, your analogy makes no sense and you are talking about mine being flawed?
1. The destructive power from Juubito's slam is indeed lower than the destructive power of the Juubi Laser, but that doesn't support your claim as Naruto took that one directly, while he blocked the Laser with his tails, thus added durability. That alone renders this whole analogy invalid.
2. Whether it creates rubble or not is irrelevant as we aren't comparing the Juubi laser's impact on one thing, to the drop slam's impact on the same thing. If a small Mountain is hit with an attack and its turned to rubble, while a larger Mountain is hit and it is turned to nothing, it doesn't take a genius to decide which one is stronger.
You're over exaggerating the strength difference. It's stronger, but Sasuke's Legged Susano is also far stronger than Itachi's v3, him not being in the epicentre of TBB means he survives, assuming Bee get a chance to fire TBB.
In durability? Nothing supports the bold. Nothing at all.
There is no durability feat that lets him survive a much stronger attack. Bijuu Dama vaporizes Mountains, Kirin turns them to rubble. Bijuu Dama is much stronger than that is a fact.
Lol, no. Biju Dama's energy exponentially deteriorates. It won't be on the same level of Kirin if you go several meters away from the epicentre, and even then, this won't ever happen because Bee dies the second he goes into BM. His hands are lit on amateratsu and he's lost by default because nothing implies he can straighten his fingers calmly and cut his tentacles. More so, he's still vulnerable to Enton arrows while he's burning from the Amateratsu. Enton arrows to the eyes and he's lost because he can't aim his TBB even if he miraculously gets out of a tentacle, which won't happen. Not to mention, Sasuke can aim the Amateratsu at Bee's eyes when he's rapid spawning, which would end the fight then and there.
You state this, but I see no evidence. You state this, but its irrelevant as Sauske isn't going to be several meters away from the epicenter.
Straighten his fingers? All he needs to do is take his hand, swing it across his tentacle and he's done. That simple. He was able to hit Karin so he can do this. He has control over his motor functions, lets stop trying to make it seem like he doesn't.
He won't get out of the tentacle? Unless he can stop B from entering Bijuu Mode (Which occurs instantly and is his way to get out of the tentacle as I've already explained) then no, I have zero reason to believe that you have any kind of point here.
Hitting Hachibi's eyes doesn't end anything, it leads him to get out and leave his clone there as he re enters Bijuu Mode and kills Sasuke. Not to mention he can block LoS with his tentacles, so this "hit eyes, hands" nonsense isn't happening. He already reacted to Amaterasu in canon with no knowledge, so he'll do it again, easier with knowledge.
You said there won't be a noticeable build up, even though there clearly will be if he's using a large potion of his chakra to go into BM. It goes against everything the manga has shown to claim that using a tremendous chakra quantity won't have a noticeable build up for a Sharingan user.
Fine, there's a build up, means nothing as he can already counter Amaterasu once hit.
Yes, I've read them. You said Bee leaves the tentacle in BM, but nothing suggests he can leave and enter BM in such a short period of time when it's been stated by Hachibi itself to have taken most of his strength. I don't see it being possible, but I may be wrong. More so, he would have to go back into his full BM since his mini BM's TBB is too insignificant to kill Sasuke's legged Susano. And even if he does get into BM, it's irrelevant to Sasuke because the Hachibi cannot actually see Sasuke now that his eyes are burned.
B entered Bijuu Mode multiple timed during the War Arc, so whatever problem he had, it was remedied. Its not an issue with Hachibi as Hachibi (All Bijuu as a matter of fact) knead chakra for the Jinchuuriki and then they hand them that chakra which allows them to enter Bijuu Mode.
And what even implies that the next BM transformation retains the same injuries from the last one?
That's nice to know, everything he lost before he cuts his tentacle (he won't since his arms are also under Amateratsu) is going to be burned when he goes out of the tentacle. He can't see so TBB is irrelevant.
Him being lit on fire for about 2-3 seconds doesn't equate to most of his limbs being completely destroyed. Don't even know where you are getting this from.
And he can't do what? If you are implying he can't use Enton Arrows, then you're wrong. Once Bee has cut his tentacle, Sasuke realises this and closes his left eye, his right eye manifests the Enton from the Susano itself, it doesn't require Sasuke to use Amateratsu again, thus he uses his right eye to form Enton arrows and start firing, as the strain from his left eye is a non-factor to the strain in his right eye.
And B enters Bijuu Mode instantly, so yeah, no. He's in Bijuu Mode by the time Sasuke has fired his arrow, and then he counters with Bijuu Dama.
Yes it does, we have seen how he impulsively reacts to heat. Why you are denying it and saying he can fire TBB while screaming in Agony is beyond me, not to mention he'll be blind.
Lol, if the Bijuu Dama is charged up, and he gets hit with the flame and goes berserk, he lets it rip and Sasuke dies. Its not going to vanish into nothingness. Not to mention he had enough control over his motor functions to hit Karin, so there is zero reason he can't fire a charged up Bijuu Dama.
Blindness is irrelevant. He'll already have a good idea of where Sasuke is, and he won't get far enough away to not get hit, so he dies.
Implying that is it possible when Sasuke can have his Enton arrow ready, and the fact that the second something begins bursting out of the tentacle/chakra build up occurs, Sasuke can fire off his Enton arrow is more than enough to dispute Bee not being able to do this, let alone the questionability of him being able to do BM again.
The Tentacle has its own chakra, so he won't see B or his chakra build up while he's inside of it. Nor will the arrow reach before he enters it regardless of whether he sees it coming or not.
I misconstrued the Amateratsu's size then. You can see it is nearly as large, if not larger than the Myojinmon as you just stated [
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Bijuu's weren't the size of Myojinmon, given how large Katsuyu was in front of it [
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Myojinmon is around the size of the Juubi's head and the Enton Flame is smaller or around the same size, Killer B was shown to be nearly as large as the Juubi's head, so this is him just screwing up size again.
