Killer Bee Takes the gauntlet

[Strict]

Plus, Raikiri is a sharp blade, while Gian is just a stream of lightning. While Sasuke's Chidori could penetrate Ay's body along with his Raiton armor, Raikiri made no damage on the Jinchuriki's body. I would go so far to say, that in V2, the Jinchuriki have a more durable body than the third Raikage. Even a TBB and being buried in Chibaku Tensei made no damage. A perfect defense.

Can we assume that, if Bee gives Hachibi control over his body while in V2, Hachibi will be able to use TBB in this form as well?

 

[Brother Numpsay]

Yet it was still equaled by Raikiri, with no momentum behind it. Lol

How do you know? He was off screen for 1. We know he attempt to comeback asap to save team 10, so isn't going to take his time 2.

And the image his body left when dropping down:

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So I disagree

Plus, Raikiri is a sharp blade, while Gian is just a stream of lightning.

DB stated its a spear, so it you were to compare it in "weapons", Gian is more then a basic stream of lightning.

While Sasuke's Chidori could penetrate Ay's body along with his Raiton armor, Raikiri made no damage on the Jinchuriki's body. I would go so far to say, that in V2, the Jinchuriki have a more durable body than the third Raikage. Even a TBB and being buried in Chibaku Tensei made no damage. A perfect defense.

To state that K6 took a TBB is to say Deva Path did too. The only feats we seen happen was the shockwave from the attack they both got caught in, when Deva redirect it. And the fact that CT damage comes from the pressure the opponent is in, you can't measure it and prove that K6 can withstand it.

Can we assume that, if Bee gives Hachibi control over his body while in V2, Hachibi will be able to use TBB in this form as well?

Nope. Bee kept on saying countless of times in Naruto's training that full BM is necessary to use TBB. And kept making assumptions that Naruto(w/Kurama) needs too, in KCM. So thats evidence that Kurama in unique in that category, while the others all have their own specialty.

 

[KidGamer65]

How do you know? He was off screen for 1. We know he attempt to comeback asap to save team 10, so isn't going to take his time 2.

And the image his body left when dropping down:

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So I disagree

Him being off screen is irrelevant We saw him on screen when he countered Raikiri. That image is from him dropping down. Does that add any forward momentum to his Raikiri? Nope. Not when his hands are just sticking out.

 

[Brother Numpsay]

Him being off screen is irrelevant We saw him on screen when he countered Raikiri. That image is from him dropping down. Does that add any forward momentum to his Raikiri? Nope. Not when his hands are just sticking out.

Its only irrelevant if your not taking into consideration on the speed he move to get back there. Considering how dropping down on a wall, helps pick up speed from an attack such as

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, moving downward for momentum support sounds as much support and pretty valid to me.

 

[KidGamer65]

Its only irrelevant if your not taking into consideration on the speed he move to get back there. Considering how dropping down on a wall, helps pick up speed from an attack such as

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, moving downward for momentum support sounds as much support and pretty valid to me.

Moving downward is only relevant if he clashes instead of landing and then clashing. This is basic physics. The momentum from his downward travel is lost when he stops. That's how it works. It isn't going to magically transfer to his arms, which he did nothing but stick out to cancel out Gian.

Not to mention it should be completely obvious why that and this aren't anywhere close to being the same scenario. Sasuke charged at Naruto, gained momentum from his attack, and then clashed. Kakashi charged downwards, landed, thus momentum from that downward travel is lost.


Then there's the fact that you still can't prove it's strong enough to pierce considering Kakashi's full power Raikiri failed to do anything to the V2 Jins, so even if Gian matched Kakashi thrusting, it wouldn't matter. Your argument is extremely flimsy. Extremely.

 

[Brother Numpsay]

Moving downward is only relevant if he clashes instead of landing and then clashing. This is basic physics. The momentum from his downward travel is lost when he stops. That's how it works. It isn't going to magically transfer to his arms, which he did nothing but stick out to cancel out Gian.

Not to mention it should be completely obvious why that and this aren't anywhere close to being the same scenario. Sasuke charged at Naruto, gained momentum from his attack, and then clashed. Kakashi charged downwards, landed, thus momentum from that downward travel is lost.


Then there's the fact that you still can't prove it's strong enough to pierce considering Kakashi's full power Raikiri failed to do anything to the V2 Jins, so even if Gian matched Kakashi thrusting, it wouldn't matter. Your argument is extremely flimsy. Extremely.

Alright, ill drop it.

 

[Strict]

Nope. Bee kept on saying countless of times in Naruto's training that full BM is necessary to use TBB. And kept making assumptions that Naruto(w/Kurama) needs too, in KCM. So thats evidence that Kurama in unique in that category, while the others all have their own specialty.

Yet Naruto used a TBB while in his V2 form, because Kyuubi took control over his body. You need BM for a TBB because it's not the Jinchuriki who creates the TBB but the Bijuu itself. And if Hachibi takes control over the V2 body, he can use a TBB as well as Naruto did in this form. This is nothing unique to Naruto; every Bijuu can use a TBB, as every Bijuu can take control over the host if latter allows it [

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As for Raikiri, KG summed it up. Raikiri is provably an extremely sharp blade, while Gian on the other hand is featless. How can one just pluck out of the air, that this technique could accomplish something greater?

The Jinchuriki's body tanks Raikiri effortlessly, as well as the Kusanagi blade; while Enma was fearful of the Kusanagi blade even in a form where he became as hard as diamond [

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], it made no scratch on Naruto's body in V2 however, though the impact of the blade produced enough force to smash his body through a massive boulder [

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This body survived both (one of) the sharpest known blades (Raikiri and Kusanagi) and being buried under mountains (Chibaku Tensei) while not being damaged at all. There seems nearly no limit. Imagine what force is needed to truly damage the main body under the cloak, when the cloak itself got no scratch from the above mentioned attacks.

 

[Brother Numpsay]

Yet Naruto used a TBB while in his V2 form, because Kyuubi took control over his body. You need BM for a TBB because it's not the Jinchuriki who creates the TBB but the Bijuu itself. And if Hachibi takes control over the V2 body, he can use a TBB as well as Naruto did in this form. This is nothing unique to Naruto; every Bijuu can use a TBB, as every Bijuu can take control over the host if latter allows it [

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Not according to Hachibi himself[

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I didn't say Naruto is unique I said Kurama's chakra is. And considering the fact when Ridouku Naruto ask for Kurama's chakra to add in his frs Kurama gave him Buijuudama, while others gave their own special ability.

Nothing supports other tails beast being as uinque as Kurama's chakra here.

 

[TRE MERCER]

Muu wins

How is Muu beating Killer Bee?​

 

[Zexion~]

Gian was stated to have incredibly high piercing and killing potential .-.

Also don't forget Kakashi was pushed back,

 

[KidGamer65]

Gian was stated to have incredibly high piercing and killing potential .-.

Also don't forget Kakashi was pushed back,

And it still got stalemated by Raikiri. Lol

 

[Strict]

Gian was stated to have incredibly high piercing and killing potential .-.

And Itachi was stated to be invincible by no other than Kaguya's son and founder of Shinobi history.

 

[Zexion~]

And Itachi was stated to be invincible by no other than Kaguya's son and founder of Shinobi history.

DB > Shinobi Praise

And it still got stalemated by Raikiri.

I was talking about strict...who said its nothing but blunt chakra

 

[Strict]

DB > Shinobi Praise

Yeah. DB says that the Yata shield nullifies any attack while Totsuka seals away anything. No matter what technique it is, it loses its effect in front of the shield. So DB + Kaguya's son say he is invincible. Your point?

 

[Zexion~]

Yeah. DB says that the Yata shield nullifies any attack while Totsuka seals away anything. No matter what technique it is, it loses its effect in front of the shield. So DB + Kaguya's son say he is invincible. Your point?

Lol....Hyperbole =/= Aspect of the jutsu

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"Sharp...Spearlike....Piercing through boulder ( Hyperbole or not, it still means that its form of damage is piercing)....extremely high killing potential" I don't know what you think it would do Lol

 

[Strict]

What the DB says about the Yata mirror is also the aspect of the technique. DB says it changes its properties in accordance with the properties of the attack to reverse the effect. This is the abilitiy of the shield as described.

And sharpness is a wide term. A knife is sharp, as a Katana is. Slicing through rocks isn't an outstanding feat.

Enma, who is as hard as diamond in his other form, admitted that even then, the Kusanagi blade would still pose a threat to him. And though the tip of this sword (the smallest possible surface (the smaller the surface, the easier it can penetrate)) hit Naruto's body in V2 with a force strong enough to push him through a huge crag, it made no scratch. And you talk about Gian penetrating this body because it was hyped to cut through rock. Bitch please.

To penetrate this cloak, you need a very immense force.

 

[Zexion~]

What the DB says about the Yata mirror is also the aspect of the technique. DB says it changes its properties in accordance with the properties of the attack to reverse the effect. This is the abilitiy of the shield as described.

And sharpness is a wide term. A knife is sharp, as a Katana is. Slicing through rocks isn't an outstanding feat.

Enma, who is as hard as diamond in his other form, admitted that even then, the Kusanagi blade would still pose a threat to him. And though the tip of this sword (the smallest possible surface (the smaller the surface, the easier it can penetrate)) hit Naruto's body in V2 with a force strong enough to push him through a huge crag, it made no scratch. And you talk about Gian penetrating this body because it was hyped to cut through rock. Bitch please.

To penetrate this cloak, you need a very immense force.

Im not saying it penetrates the cloak my man

Plus, Raikiri is a sharp blade, while Gian is just a stream of lightning.

You made it seem like you assume Gian doesn't pierce anything at all. The fact that it

A) Kills through piercing the opponent or object just like Raikiri

B) Has equal chakra to Raikiri

Means that the damage they cause and the strength of their chakra are the same. Gian may do a little more damage actually as it does have much more momentum however not enough to pierce the cloak if Raikiri couldn't do anything.