Killer B vs Kisame: Rematch

[-Vegeta-]

You basically said only a perfect jinchuricki can use tbb and i showed you that naruto did even if the fox took over him.

You're twisting what I meant. I was saying that he probably couldn't use tbb because he can't use version 2 or full beast form at will like Bee. Naruto had to give in to his anger and the kyuubi just to get to that form.

 

[Blaze Release]

You're twisting what I meant. I was saying that he probably couldn't use tbb because he can't use version 2 or full beast form at will like Bee. Naruto had to give in to his anger and the kyuubi just to get to that form.

Wasnt twisting anything, i read what you said and took it literally. Also the 4th tailed most likely transformed into its jinchurcki form, meaning he could less use tbb.

Anyway as i said we have different opinions

 

[-Vegeta-]

Wasnt twisting anything, i read what you said and took it literally. Also the 4th tailed most likely transformed into its jinchurcki form, meaning he could less use tbb.

Anyway as i said we have different opinions

What don't you get about Bee and Yagura being the only 2 perfect jinchuuriki. Roshi the 4 tails isn't one of them. I've got to go anyway because I have work.

 

[Uchihas with Big Guns]

Kisame. I understand people love bee but kisame is the tailed beast with no tail Even with samehada Bee cannot win.

kisame without samehada still takes alot of bee's chakra + kisame is smarter -stronger -base faster and controls the terrain.

 

[lanakau888]

Bee would win hands down especially now that he knows kisame's abilities, and can use his full abilities in this battle.

Samehada is absolutely NOT absorbing a full Hachibi TBB. One whirlwind to blow kisame away and a couple of those are all that is needed.

 

[Uchihas with Big Guns]

Yugato can fully transform doesn't mean shit because hidan & kakazu still beat her.

The 4 tails most likely took over kisame still beat him without itachi

The 3rd raikage beat up 8 tails 1 on 1

Suigetsu survived a biju bomb

Orochimaru blocked and survived biju bomb

The 4th kazekage stopped the 1 tail

In short tailed beast bomb can only be used if the jinchuriki is under the biju's influence. And doesn't grantee a win especially against kisame because this strongest tech absorbs chakra.

Also that whirlwind won't affect kisame because he can, hide under ground. Kisame wins

 

[Blaze Release]

What don't you get about Bee and Yagura being the only 2 perfect jinchuuriki. Roshi the 4 tails isn't one of them. I've got to go anyway because I have work.

I already knew that, you claimed that only a perfect jinchuricki can produce tbb and that isnt the case

 

[siyo]

Firstly at the bold part, that has always been my line xd.

What you fail to get is that bee's being in his 8 tailed would leave him even more vulnerable to samahada because it just has to get in contact with you to suck your chakra.

As i said both had disadvantages. Even if you take away their disadvantage that doesnt guarantee a win.

As for how kisame is dealing with a tbb, he wouldve faced it before for him to be called the perfect jinhcurkci hunter. Also Suigetsu tanked it with a water technique from point blank range. I need not tell you that kisame is arguably the best suiton user in the series

Well, the line is appropiate when the opposition throws a hissy fit instead of leaving the argument ; that's if they don't have anything productive to say,or they simply don't want to get into an argument. O.O

Anyhow, at the bold part, it doesn't matter if Kisame is one of the best water users since he is not privy to the Hozuki clan's secrets.

The Hōzuki clan (鬼灯一族, Hōzuki Ichizoku) is a group of ninja that originated from Kirigakure.
The members of this clan possesses the ability to turn their bodies into a liquid form using the Hydrification Technique. This ability however seems to require that they stay hydrated at all times and as such at least two known members are known to carry water bottles around with them

So that is not a viable option for kisame,which means that he would be eaten alive(if the tbb hit).

 

[GodaimeRaikage]

Kisame. I understand people love bee but kisame is the tailed beast with no tail Even with samehada Bee cannot win.

kisame without samehada still takes alot of bee's chakra + kisame is smarter -stronger -base faster and controls the terrain.

Kisame is smarter than Bee, you should have stop at that point.Kisame's base speed and Strength are no where near Bees.Not to mention, how exactly can Kisame control the terrain? And did you not see naruto 566 where Killer Bee literally wipe out a forest.As for Kisame taking a lot of Bees chakra without samehada;that is nonsense.With samehada Kisame couldn't fully drain Bee of chakra before Bee lariat open his chest, which would have been the end of Kisame if he didn't have samehada to combine with.So exactly how would kisame drain most of Bee's chakra without samehada?

Know one can logically look at the first battle with Kisame and Bee and say that Kisame can take Bee on if they both were going all out.

 

[Blaze Release]

So that is not a viable option for kisame,which means that he would be eaten alive(if the tbb hit).

What im trying to say is that suigetsu technique whether or not it was a unique technique is still a suiton jutsu, which allowed him to survive a tbb. Kisame is arguably the best suiton user in the series, his rival being tobirama

 

[siyo]

What im trying to say is that suigetsu technique whether or not it was a unique technique is still a suiton jutsu, which allowed him to survive a tbb. Kisame is arguably the best suiton user in the series, his rival being tobirama

Huh ...the two got absolutely nothing to do with each other.Kisame is arguably the best suiton user (along with tobirama, 2nd mizukage, etc), but he does not know the clan's secrets.Kisame body is not made of water/oil.We clearly saw this in kisame's previous battles, and the clan techniques is secret for a reason e.g certain rituals only they know..

 

[Uchihas with Big Guns]

Kisame is smarter than Bee, you should have stop at that point.Kisame's base speed and Strength are no where near Bees.Not to mention, how exactly can Kisame control the terrain? And did you not see naruto 566 where Killer Bee literally wipe out a forest.As for Kisame taking a lot of Bees chakra without samehada;that is nonsense.With samehada Kisame couldn't fully drain Bee of chakra before Bee lariat open his chest, which would have been the end of Kisame if he didn't have samehada to combine with.So exactly how would kisame drain most of Bee's chakra without samehada?

Know one can logically look at the first battle with Kisame and Bee and say that Kisame can take Bee on if they both were going all out.

Yes... To e-z...... Even tho u try to twist my words im still gonna kill ya weak argument:

1st chapters u need to read: (256 - 258) (470 - 473) (506 - 508)

Now if I have to point it out for u bee has never shown any display of strength near kisame also only when in cloaked form bee is fast.

Its obvious kisame is smarter read every panel kisame speaks in the read bees panel u'll c hachibi is the brains of that operation

Kisame & tobimaru are the only characters shown to create large bodies of water which changes the terrain From land, to lake guess what kisame is at his best in water uses the water itself to absorb chakra + he can swim under ground

Great shark bullet takes ttb out the equation
water clone beats ink clones

There are two characters that can go toe to toe with a biju
The 3rd raikage & KISAME

I enjoyed crushing you lol thanx for taking the bait.

DO NOT REPLY IF YOU HAVEN'T READ THE CHAPTERS I'VE GIVING

 

[GodaimeRaikage]

Yes... To e-z...... Even tho u try to twist my words im still gonna kill ya weak argument:

1st chapters u need to read: (256 - 258) (470 - 473) (506 - 508)

Now if I have to point it out for u bee has never shown any display of strength near kisame also only when in cloaked form bee is fast.

Its obvious kisame is smarter read every panel kisame speaks in the read bees panel u'll c hachibi is the brains of that operation

Kisame & tobimaru are the only characters shown to create large bodies of water which changes the terrain From land, to lake guess what kisame is at his best in water uses the water itself to absorb chakra + he can swim under ground

Great shark bullet takes ttb out the equation
water clone beats ink clones

There are two characters that can go toe to toe with a biju
The 3rd raikage & KISAME

I enjoyed crushing you lol thanx for taking the bait.

DO NOT REPLY IF YOU HAVEN'T READ THE CHAPTERS I'VE GIVING

You are not the sharpest knife in the draw are you?The very chapters you told me to read proved my point.Maybe you should read chapter 470 Killer Bee Vs.Kisame and count the times Kisame would have been killed if he didn't have Samehada.The raiton pencil Bee threw at Kisame head follow by the sword slash that would have killed Kisame if Samehada hadn't absorb the chakra.Follow that up by the headbutt that would have killed Kisame if samehada haven't absorbed Bee chakra.Not to mention the version 2 Lariat, that blown Kisame's chest open, leaving him to combine with Samehada to save himself.Basically, without samehada kisame can't even compete with Bee.The first part of that fight bee got the drop on Kisame numerous times before Kisame used his water prison jutsu.


As for the terrain, we have seen Kisame water jutsu and we have seen how Gai got out of it using the 7 gates.Now go back to last chapter were Killer Bee clear out a forest and tell how could Kisame Water Prison hold up to something as powerful as that.


Thanks for taking the bait? More like no thanks for wasting my time.If you are going to counter someone's argument, at least come with something better than listing Kisame abilities and telling me to read chapters.

 

[Better]

Who has the samehada?

 

[siyo]

Who has the samehada?

Will it make a difference?

First i though without it, but even with it he can't beat killer b (without distraction).