Killer B vs Kisame: Rematch

[Drizzy]

I would say Killer Bee [since you said remath I take it Kirabi stands at his current level in the manga]:

• Full Bijuu Form:
  
  Octopus:Takes an advantage to Kisame's water attacks.
  Size: Hand Combat Useless.
  Mass: Basic weapons useless.
  
  
• 3 to 7 tails active:
  Massive Speed Increase: Increase in Speed leaves Kisame to not be able to trace his attacks.
  Taijutsu Advantage: Taijutsu increased by the chakra of the Bijuu, add this to speed= being hit by what you can't see.
  Lariat: Advanced Taijutsu, add this to speed and taijutsu boost= can't block what of a higher level and greater speed.
  Parted Sections of The Bijuu: The tentacles can be used to deflect most ninjutsu, good for stealthily moving, dodging etc.
  Tailed Best Chakra Arms: Very handy, adds to stealth, great advantage.
  Seismic Wave:A wave of the hand or a release of energy from the mouth, kills on impact.
  
• Biijutsu:
  Tailed Best Bomb: Instant Knock Out
  Eight Tails Whirlwind: Instant Knock Out if In Range.
  
  
• Samehada:
  Absorbs everything Kisame can throw at him.
  

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Kirabi wanted to keep his location secret, if not, he would have went full Bijuu, to not he now has the Samehada which Kisame gets his chakra from, this isn't even competition.

 

[siyo]

Horrible circumstances? Most strong ninja's wouldve lost against bee even if they had every intention to kill. If anybody was under a horrible circumstance it was kisame.

I wasnt comparing the 4tailed to te 8 tailed, im trying to tell you that kisame wouldnt be fazed by bee's transformation because he wouldve experienced such circumstances before

Btw plz dont bring up diedora vs gaara because that shit actually gets me annoyed. Deidora was at the disadvantage with limited clay, couldnt use his most people jutsu and didnt have an intention to kill.

C4 wouldve not only killed gaara it wouldve more or less killed every sand villager at the village at that moment in time.

Kisame is just not anybody. He is one of the strongest members of akatsuki, known as a jinchuuriki hunter, and he is smart enough to take advantage of anything he can- It just doesn’t change the fact that Bee was under horrible circumstances since he wasn’t prepared for battle and he also needed to protect his master. He could not go all out because it would endanger his rap teacher’s life, so how can you say that it was Kisame who suffered under the disadvantage? Kisame couldn’t kill his pray,but he knew that going in (and was comfortable).

Even though Kisame is a tailed beast expert he wouldn’t be ready for a full octopus transformation, since its chakra levels are off the chart. Killer b would simply overpower Kisame… try come up with a scenario where b would lose?

Now on to gaara; Gaara had to protect his village, which meant that he couldn’t focus solely on himself and deidara. Deidara obviously used it to his advantage(e.g direct his attack at the village and wasting gaara’s chakra).Btw, gaara would be fine in his sand bubble if c4 would have gone off.

 

[Blaze Release]

Kisame is just not anybody. He is one of the strongest members of akatsuki, known as a jinchuuriki hunter, and he is smart enough to take advantage of anything he can- It just doesn’t change the fact that Bee was under horrible circumstances since he wasn’t prepared for battle and he also needed to protect his master. He could not go all out because it would endanger his rap teacher’s life, so how can you say that it was Kisame who suffered under the disadvantage? Kisame couldn’t kill his pray,but he knew that going in (and was comfortable).

Even though Kisame is a tailed beast expert he wouldn’t be ready for a full octopus transformation, since its chakra levels are off the chart. Killer b would simply overpower Kisame… try come up with a scenario where b would lose?

Now on to gaara; Gaara had to protect his village, which meant that he couldn’t focus solely on himself and deidara. Deidara obviously used it to his advantage(e.g direct his attack at the village and wasting gaara’s chakra).Btw, gaara would be fine in his sand bubble if c4 would have gone off.

Ill withhold from arguing with people like you in the future. Cannot be bothered anymore.

Anyway whatever makes you happy. Shame the only fight we saw from both kisame and deidora they won and they were also facing disadvantages and they won. Nuff said.


You only acknowledge the disadvantage/s of gaara and bee, but fail to do the same with deidora and kisame.

In both fights all the characters were at a disadvantage somewhat, akatsuki members bested their opponents still. Also just because a character is a disadvantage in a fight doesnt mean that if you take that disadvantage away they would surely win

 

[MinatoFLASH]

Killa Bee.

WHY?

He didn't use the tailed beast.

And if hes being serious he wud win.

 

[MinatoFLASH]

Whats Kisame going to do about tbb?

 

[siyo]

Ill withhold from arguing with people like you in the future. Cannot be bothered anymore.

Anyway whatever makes you happy. Shame the only fight we saw from both kisame and deidora they won and they were also facing disadvantages and they won. Nuff said.


You only acknowledge the disadvantage/s of gaara and bee, but fail to do the same with deidora and kisame.

In both fights all the characters were at a disadvantage somewhat, akatsuki members bested their opponents still. Also just because a character is a disadvantage in a fight doesnt mean that if you take that disadvantage away they would surely win

Lolol you couldn’t even find one scenario where Kisame could defeat a full transformed bee? And the only argument you had was that Kisame would be ready for bee……wait for it…… because Kisame dealt with the 4 tailed? Yeah, Sounds like an excellent analysis to me :| and you brought up a great closing bit when I have already acknowledged both Gaara and Kisame lost – too bad we’re discussing the present. And to even compare the disadvantages is ignorant.

You do whatever you want and whatever makes you sleep at night.

Whats Kisame going to do about tbb?

Well kisame faced the 4tailed so he will be ready for it (/sarcasm off)

 

[Blaze Release]

Lolol you couldn’t even find one scenario where Kisame could defeat a full transformed bee? And the only argument you had was that Kisame would be ready for bee……wait for it…… because Kisame dealt with the 4 tailed? Yeah, Sounds like an excellent analysis to me :| and you brought up a great closing bit when I have already acknowledged both Gaara and Kisame lost – too bad we’re discussing the present. And to even compare the disadvantages is ignorant.

You do whatever you want and whatever makes you sleep at night.

Firstly at the bold part, that has always been my line xd.

What you fail to get is that bee's being in his 8 tailed would leave him even more vulnerable to samahada because it just has to get in contact with you to suck your chakra.

As i said both had disadvantages. Even if you take away their disadvantage that doesnt guarantee a win.

As for how kisame is dealing with a tbb, he wouldve faced it before for him to be called the perfect jinhcurkci hunter. Also Suigetsu tanked it with a water technique from point blank range. I need not tell you that kisame is arguably the best suiton user in the series

 

[-Vegeta-]

Firstly at the bold part, that has always been my line xd.

What you fail to get is that bee's being in his 8 tailed would leave him even more vulnerable to samahada because it just has to get in contact with you to suck your chakra.

As i said both had disadvantages. Even if you take away their disadvantage that doesnt guarantee a win.

As for how kisame is dealing with a tbb, he wouldve faced it before for him to be called the perfect jinhcurkci hunter. Also Suigetsu tanked it with a water technique from point blank range. I need not tell you that kisame is arguably the best suiton user in the series

Lol you're saying samehada can suck up a living being? Lmao. Yes it can suck up chakra, but the actual hachibi which is what Bee turns into is a living being, not just chakra like the cloaks.

 

[Blaze Release]

Lol you're saying samehada can suck up a living being? Lmao. Yes it can suck up chakra, but the actual hachibi which is what Bee turns into is a living being, not just chakra like the cloaks.

I never said he can suck up a living being. If bee transforms into the 8 tailed, he would be able to suck his chakra even easier because he's an easy target. You dont have to have a chakra cloak for samahada to suck your chakra, it just has come in contact with you.

Ive already given one way kisame can avoid tbb and i used suigetsu as an example. Another example is, if suigetsu can tank it from point blank range with a water technique, i dont see why kisame cannot if he swims to the bottom of the river he creates before he fights. Also considering he has great durability feat tanking gai's strongest attacks, but also with the samahada he can heal himself if tbb does come all the water to the bottom of the river.

Also the 8 tailed tbb takes long to materialise as seen in taka vs bee and bee tbb vs chibaku tensei. If tbb is basically a dense chakra ball, if kisame can come in contact during its materialisation stage he can absorb it with samahada

 

[-Vegeta-]

I never said he can suck up a living being. If bee transforms into the 8 tailed, he would be able to suck his chakra even easier because he's an easy target. You dont have to have a chakra cloak for samahada to suck your chakra, it just has come in contact with you.

Ive already given one way kisame can avoid tbb and i used suigetsu as an example. Another example is, if suigetsu can tank it from point blank range with a water technique, i dont see why kisame cannot if he swims to the bottom of the river he creates before he fights. Also considering he has great durability feat tanking gai's strongest attacks, but also with the samahada he can heal himself if tbb does come all the water to the bottom of the river.

Also the 8 tailed tbb takes long to materialise as seen in taka vs bee and bee tbb vs chibaku tensei. If tbb is basically a dense chakra ball, if kisame can come in contact during its materialisation stage he can absorb it with samahada

Bee's whirlwind jutsu would easily decimate Kisame if he tried to even get close so absorbing any chakra wouldn't happen.

 

[Blaze Release]

Bee's whirlwind jutsu would easily decimate Kisame if he tried to even get close so absorbing any chakra wouldn't happen.

Decimate kisame?. Ive already showed you his durability feat even without samahada. Also that whirlwind tech doesnt kill, it just blows the target/s away.

 

[-Vegeta-]

Decimate kisame?. Ive already showed you his durability feat even without samahada. Also that whirlwind tech doesnt kill, it just blows the target/s away.

I never said it would kill him, but it would put him down for a couple minutes like it did to the jinchuuriki and then tbb and it's over. Either way Kisame wouldn't get close enough to absorb Bee's chakra.

 

[Blaze Release]

I never said it would kill him, but it would put him down for a couple minutes like it did to the jinchuuriki and then tbb and it's over. Either Kisame wouldn't get close to absorb Bee's chakra.

A wind tech isnt keeping somebody like kisame down for a couple of minutes. Where did you get the idea that the paths stayed down for a couple of minutes?.

I truly believe kisame would still beat bee. Its a shame kishi didnt bother to show how he captured the 4 tailed for me to stomp this discussion.

Anyway we have different opinions so whatever

 

[-Vegeta-]

A wind tech isnt keeping somebody like kisame down for a couple of minutes. Where did you get the idea that the paths stayed down for a couple of minutes?.

I truly believe kisame would still beat bee. Its a shame kishi didnt bother to show how he captured the 4 tailed for me to stomp this discussion.

Anyway we have different opinions so whatever

Lol how would showing how he captured the 4 tails change anything? The 4 tails can't fully transform at will like Bee.

 

[Blaze Release]

Lol how would showing how he captured the 4 tails change anything? The 4 tails can't fully transform at will like Bee.

Kishi showing us how kisame fought the 4 tailed would reveal how he dealt with tbb and possible the transformation of the jinchuricki

 

[-Vegeta-]

Kishi showing us how kisame fought the 4 tailed would reveal how he dealt with tbb and possible the transformation of the jinchuricki

The only 2 jinchuuriki who can transform at will are Bee and Yagura. The 4 tails can't transform at will like those 2 considering he's not a perfect jinchuuriki, which means no tailed beast bomb.

 

[GodaimeRaikage]

Kiler Bee would win with some difficulty.People can say Kisame was holding back but that is nonsense.Kisame during that first battle was trying his best to drain Killer Bee chakra with Samehada but Bee figure out he couldn't drain it all.Not to mention, Bee lariat Kisame during that fight blowing his chest open and if it wasn't for Samehada combining with Kisame, Kisame would have been a corpse.Now imagine Killer Bee going full 8 tails on Kisame, the fight would have been over quicker than Might Gai versus Udon.

 

[Blaze Release]

The only 2 jinchuuriki who can transform at will are Bee and Yagura. The 4 tails can't transform at will like those 2 considering he's not a perfect jinchuuriki, which means no tailed beast bomb.

Off course because naruto is a perfect jinchuricki when he used tbb against oro and pein

 

[-Vegeta-]

Off course because naruto is a perfect jinchuricki when he used tbb against oro and pein

And did he transform at will? No. The kyuubi took him over because of his anger.

 

[Blaze Release]

And did he transform at will? No. The kyuubi took him over because of his anger.

You basically said only a perfect jinchuricki can use tbb and i showed you that naruto did even if the fox took over him.