Kidomaru and SRA Neji Vs SRA Choji , Lee , Shikamaru , Jirobo , Tayuya , and Hinata.

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Fair enough. I assumed that Hinata would've been aware of it through normal usage of the Byakugan such as analyzing that there strangely was one spot she couldn't see, but if Neji didn't even notice it until further training, then I agree, Hinata isn't aware of it. Even then, it's irrelevant because none of Team 2's attacks can simply reach only within his blind-spot, so it really makes no difference.


Bold wasn't even wat i was saying and its dame sure relevant to team1 not 2.



I'm confused, how can Neji exploit Hinata's blind-spot? I'm not sure how he could without Kidoumaru's help, but it's not as if Hinata is alone and through my strategy, she merely acts as support.
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He tells kido about it and he exploits it while remaining outside her 50m range , doesn't matter if hinata is alone or not since they wont even kno hinata is the intended target along with the fact that kido's arrows are way too fast and can be remote controlled to intercept it even if hinata were aware she had it and was constantly moving her head to shift the blindspot.



Which doesn't make sense considering Hinata's Byakugan mitigates that. Quite frankly, every ninja can see through 70m even when there's some trees obstructing their view somewhat. Kidoumaru didn't really do what you're suggesting since his vision cannot penetrate through trees, so his vision is more or less similar to Team 2's. The only difference is that he can focus on his target more effectively, but that's really it. His vision isn't comparable to the Byakugan's and it can't penetrate through trees.


No , her byakugan does ntn to mitigate that the same way neji's couldn't , her limit is 50m and with intel kido can stay out of that limit while still seein her clearly.



Kido's vision can most surely penetrate the trees and see farther than neji/hinata , the forest is full to the brim with trees that are closely intertwined together.


Kido was clearly seeing through the tree directly in front of neji here in the bottom panel cementing my point.


Then add the fact that he was seein neji clearly through a multitude of other trees while neji couldn't see crap due to kido bein out of his visual detection limit.


He can also use chakra vision to a certain degree , illustrated by the same "sfx:Shing!" used to illustrate when neji's is activating his own chakra vision.





How? 100m is a large distance.

Wrong. Hinata can fix on Kidoumaru's position at all times, so Jirobo and Tayuya will be aware of it and regardless, Jirobo can destroy trees with his Doton fissures and physical strength while Tayuya corners him through her summons and her ghost which will prevent Kidoumaru from molding chakra for ninjutsu which mitigates any advantage Kidoumaru might have while Jirobo accomplishes his task. Tayuya not being able to track Shikamaru really doesn't mean anything taking into consideration what Jirobo can do to the environment and the fact that Hinata acts as proper support for this. Why're you forgetting Hinata here?

Already covered , hinata cant fix on kido's location before she gets a arrow to the blindspot unless u have proof hinata's byakugan can see all ranges above and beyond neji's limit of 50m so that crumbles the rest of ur points connecting to this.

The 100m distance is why team1 stomps this.

Again u have yet to even prove how team2 get that close to kido in the first place , especially with a dead hinata since she'd be the first to go.

Jirobo randomly clearing parts of the forest would only make kido zero in on their exact location quicker and while he's busy doing that kido's arrow would be busy on its way to jirobo's chest.


Kidoumaru and Tayuya were both portrayed as Jirobo's superior. If anything, they were depicted as roughly equals. Shikamaru's analogy implied that those who blend in with their environment can perform well against Tayuya, not that they have any sort of advantage like Orochimaru does against Jiraiya.



This doesn't even matter really , yea jirobo was the weakest.



How is Kidoumaru suddenly chucking a large ass arrow that'll somehow reach her blind-spot?
They wont even kno the attack is bein launched at the blindspot.




In-context means that Kidoumaru will attempt to toy with his opponent, not simply chuck large ass arrows and snipe them one by one. That's simply not his fighting style.

Not when the only way to seal their victory relies on kido's arrows taking out the eyes of the opposition first and foremost , as i said to ice kido isn't dumb and he knows how dangerous his team are and how dangerous the others are through neji so plz dismiss this blatant insult to kido's intelligence.

After Hinata is dead then he plays with them and again , kido only palys with enemies weaker than himself , obviously they guy wouldn't do so if he knew he was fighting kimimaro or other members of his own team who he knos are dangerous.




I was suggesting Jirobo should use Doton Walls to halter any spider webs and simple projectiles he used. It certainly wasn't to halter the arrow, but it could potentially alter it's trajectory. You also have to take into consideration that he wasn't using the Cursed Seal along with the fact that Fodder Shinobi during the War Arc could summon massive Doton Walls, so if he had wanted to, especially with CS2, he'd certainly be capable of amassing a powerful defense against Kidoumaru's attacks, potentially enough to alter it's trajectory.

You've yet to even prove how team2 get that close to kido in the first place which is why i scenariotized that way.
If he amasses a doton wall kido bends his arrow around it and kills him neg diff.




Neji was weakened and as I said before, Kidoumaru starting off with sniping each one, one by one is out of context.

It isn't when he needs to , along with the fact that he knows he needs to since he's fighting against his teamates who he also has intel on , the only thing out of context here is ur underestimation of kido's intelligence here.


A speedy Neji with 1 Gated Lee and Chouji amplified by Food Pills? Potentially. Chouji and Shikamaru possesses far more synergy than Kidoumaru and Neji, so the likelihood of Shikamaru being able to capture Neji is higher and actually, Neji's Kaiten is rendered useless since he's forced to stay stationary, so he has no counter to Chouji's attacks at all simply because his fighting style revolves around gentle taps which isn't enough to resist Chouji's momentum.

I was simply addressing unknownvillain1254's points not urs so i simply did so without considering urs , also a 1 gated lee fresh from recover and a choji amped by food pills is no threat to neji , i can safely prove he stomps them both but we aren't even at that point in the debate yet.

Susano'o can't even block out sound waves, so Kidoumaru's fluids might not. Quite frankly, losing hearing in itself is a pretty big disadvantage.

How can u correlate kido literally blocking his ear holes to rib-cage susano'o failing to block sound waves?...
Bold: Not when they can literally see all that they need to see , its not like team2 is gonna stealth team1 Dwl
 
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Wheres ur proof to back this baseless claim? , neji only started discovering and learning about his blindpot near to the sra while hinata has no such knowledge unless u bring manga scan like i am.


Kishi literally illustrated to us exactly when neji learned about his blindspot.


Kidomaru easily sees through 70m+ worth of trees and counting as if they aren't even there meaning he easily detect team2 long before they see him.


The fight starts 100m apart , hinata is gonna get her blindpot shot without knowledge that she even has such a blindspot in the first place.

Most of wat ur saying doesn't even take into account the 100m distance team1 has , jirobo and tayuya having intel is irrelevant when they dont and wont ever know kido's location , even shikamaru was capable of escaping tayuya's Los and remain hidden , launching attacks while hidden simultaneously. Kido already at a distance would literally make short work of them both by attacking without them ever knowing his location many meters apart in a thick forest of trees.




Kidomaru was portrayed way above jirobo and he's essentially the perfect counter to tayuya herself as he can also he included into shikamaru's analogy here only kido is much superior to kiba and neji in that aspect.


Kido kills them both in the forest without difficulty , ur jumping over the fact that they start 100m apart givin kidomaru ample time to spot them , killing hinata first through her blindspot and from there the match is over.

Lol at jirobo setting up a doton wall in time when it canonically got pierced by choji wearing a couple of kunai , kido rips through that shit and negs jirobo if he does.


Since every person on team2 has inferior reactions to neji they all get sniped through their blindspots without a shadow of doubt , kido is also much smarter than tayuya/jirobo and will exploit the crap outa them with the distance and intel he has on them.




Hinata gets sniped through her blindpot , shikamaru wont catch a speedy neji with shadowbind before kido plants a arrow in the base of his skull , neji wont even get directly involved until a neg plan is made between him and kido.

Team1 literally stomps this , hinata will be the first to die.

I hate to do it to you my brother but the battle is on
 

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Lol, what? You really think Kidomaru is soloing here? The team safely travels underground towards Kidomaru's location via Jirobo's doton and Hinata's Byakugan. He has zero chance at handling all of them once they all emerge within close quarters.
I thought only Jiroubo can travel underground. How does the entire team do so?
 
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