[Kenjutsu Training] Tybone

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I place my left foot in front of my right foot but a little more to the left keeping more space between my legs while having my left foot in front of my right foot still.
My legs are opened wide enough so each knee aligns with each of my shoulders making them parallel to each other.
I then begin to try and position my back 90degrees, making it as straight as possible.
Soon After getting my body in the correct position, I begin to hold my sword with both of my hands on the handle.
I have my right hand near the Tsuba, while my left hand is near the end of the tsuka.
I begin to hold the sword semi above my heard with the end of the Tsuka aligned with my forehead, while the Tsuba is aligned with the top of my head. The blade of the sword should be at a 45 degree angle now.

-Tybone dropped-

Excellent performance. Now, by how you held the sword, explain me what the potential weaknesses and strengths be.
 

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-Tybone dropped-

Excellent performance. Now, by how you held the sword, explain me what the potential weaknesses and strengths be.
Strength: Delivers a powerful and faster blow then other stances due to the strength added by it being a downward strike.

Weakness: It'll be more difficult to defend from attacks as it's a purely offensive stance.
 

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Master D:
Not any that I can think of:T_T:
Sorry for late reply O_O
Well, for one, you are right, this stance is meant for offensive purposes. If the enemy is knowledgeable of kenjutsu though, he would try to make a faint in order for you to attack first. Though you need to remember that you don't need to stay still when an opponent is attacking, you are able to use your body to move depending on the circumstances. Stances aren't low of mobility as you think they should, which I would teach you later.

Any questions? We shall move to the next stance if none.
 

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Well, for one, you are right, this stance is meant for offensive purposes. If the enemy is knowledgeable of kenjutsu though, he would try to make a faint in order for you to attack first. Though you need to remember that you don't need to stay still when an opponent is attacking, you are able to use your body to move depending on the circumstances. Stances aren't low of mobility as you think they should, which I would teach you later.

Any questions? We shall move to the next stance if none.
Senpai I have no questions and I see O.O
 

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I'm back O_O

Ok then, let's get going with the Jodan Stance:

Jodan:

Your body:
Your body settings are very similar to Chudan no Kamae. Your left foot most be in front of your right foot, wide. You will incline your right foot a little, ready to make a step, your weight will be in your rear foot. Your knees and shoulders need to be parallel with each other. Your back most be straight, as it will contain your explosive power to swing downwards.

Your sword position:
Your sword most be above your head. With your right hand, you will hold the sword close to the tsuba, the back of your hand facing upward. Your left hand will be close to end of the tsuka, the back of the hand facing outward.
The sword most be between 3-5 inches apart from your head. If seen from the end of the handle, your sword most be 135 degrees from the X-axis is creating (45 degrees backwards).

Chudan kamae is the most fearsome of kamae. It is both an open invitation for the opponent to foolishly try to strike at the abdomen, yet a deadly trap because the person in jodan kamae can easliy strike and cut men or kote. When a steel sword is used the effect is that of an invisible weapon since only the cutting edge is seen by the opponent. This will cause great fear in the opponent, and doubt of the distance from the where you are.


Now that you understand this, please perform the stance, in detail. (Not copy paste my description either).

Here is an image (the second image is a slight variation of Jodan, but still falls into Jodan no Kamae):

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Description of le stance:

I hold my bokken in my right hand which is hanging down as I straighten my body out and slide my left foot forward while slightly sliding my right foot backwards, titlting the heel and then slightly bend my knees and twist my upper body, making sure my shoulders and knees are alligned to eachother.
I then slide my right hand to the bottom of my bokken's hilt while grabbing the top of the hilt with my left hand and raise up the bokken towards my head until the bottom of the hilt is alligned to my forehead.
I then turn my bokken about 45 degrees inward so that the tip points to the sky behind me while simultanously turning the tip 45 degrees to the right.

Strength:

Although the position of the sword in this stance keeps the entire body unguarded, the strength of this stance makes up for it. due to the sword's position the wielder would be able to put his full strength in one slash due to the downward motion.

Weakness:

You basicly said it yourself already o.o a skilled swordsman could try and take advantage of the unguarded area by throwing a faint slash in order to lure you to strike with your sword, wasting the stance and being left wide open
 

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Good Tybone, well said and done ^^

If there are no questions, we will move to the next stance, Hasso.

Hasso

Your body:
Your back must be straight, showing no weakness to your opponent. Left foot slightly in front of the right foot; left knee bend forward, right knee “locked” straight. Shoulders and feet must be parallel. Your body will seem to be rotated toward your right (the chest and overall body), though your left foot and head direction will be facing the opponent.

Your sword position:
The hands are positioned near the face, with tsuba of the sword near and level with the mouth. The sword will be pointing upwards, 90 degree if possible. Right hand close to the guard, left hand close at the end of the handle.

Hasso kamae is not comonly used in kendo matches, it is deceptively open to attack. The opponent is likely see this kamae as an invitation to attack which is just what a person in hasso kamae wants, who instantly strikes men or kote.

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I have explained you the theory, now please put it into practice.
 

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I start off by standing straight with my bokken in my right hand. I slide my left foot forward while slightly bending the knee, followed by rotating my right foot clockwise for about 45 degrees. Then I rotate my upper body clockwise for about 45 degrees aswell while making sure my shoulders end up alligned to my feet. I then raise my bokken straight upwards until the tsuba is alligned to both my mouth and right shoulder, I then slide my right hand towards the guard while grabbing onto the lower part of the handle with my left hand.
 

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I start off by standing straight with my bokken in my right hand. I slide my left foot forward while slightly bending the knee, followed by rotating my right foot clockwise for about 45 degrees. Then I rotate my upper body clockwise for about 45 degrees aswell while making sure my shoulders end up alligned to my feet. I then raise my bokken straight upwards until the tsuba is alligned to both my mouth and right shoulder, I then slide my right hand towards the guard while grabbing onto the lower part of the handle with my left hand.

Well done ^^

Now that you have gotten into that stance, can you tell me the weaknesses and strengths of the stance?
 

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Well done ^^

Now that you have gotten into that stance, can you tell me the weaknesses and strengths of the stance?
Well as you said, an opponent unexperienced with this stance may attack carelessly as it looks as though you're open, but actually this stance allows you to effectively strike the opponent from any direction, that said.. I can't think of an actual weakness. :shrug:
 

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Well as you said, an opponent unexperienced with this stance may attack carelessly as it looks as though you're open, but actually this stance allows you to effectively strike the opponent from any direction, that said.. I can't think of an actual weakness. :shrug:
Well the stance itself is almost a "perfect" defense and counterattack mechanism. It doesn't actually allow you to strike your opponent from any angle, but to defend from any angle. While being in this stance, you have a strong defense, and you are capable of counterattacking depending on the defense maneuver your performed. The weakness is that, because of the positioning of your sword, your attacks do not carry as much power. The main trick of this stance is to use your opponent's own momentum and power to shift it and overcome their attack, leaving them open.
 

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Well the stance itself is almost a "perfect" defense and counterattack mechanism. It doesn't actually allow you to strike your opponent from any angle, but to defend from any angle. While being in this stance, you have a strong defense, and you are capable of counterattacking depending on the defense maneuver your performed. The weakness is that, because of the positioning of your sword, your attacks do not carry as much power. The main trick of this stance is to use your opponent's own momentum and power to shift it and overcome their attack, leaving them open.
Oh, I get it now! Sank yew .-.
 
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Okay, let's proceed with the Gedan no Kamae Stance.

Your body: The position is exactly the same as Chudan.
Your right foot most be in slightly front of your left foot. Your left foot will work as your base support, as you will be standing with the front area of it. Your legs must be parallel to your shoulders, this means your right knee most be in the same Y-axis as your right shoulder, and your left shoulder in the same Y-axis as your right shoulder.
Your back most be straight, the leverage of the sword will help you maintain it.

Sword position: Right hand close to the tsuba, left hand directly behind it. Your sword most be pointing at "the opponent's knees". Your arms stretched, though having your elbows bent a little in order to manuever easier. The sword will be inclined in a lower Axis than your waist.

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Perform the stance.
 

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Okay, let's proceed with the Gedan no Kamae Stance.

Your body: The position is exactly the same as Chudan.
Your right foot most be in slightly front of your left foot. Your left foot will work as your base support, as you will be standing with the front area of it. Your legs must be parallel to your shoulders, this means your right knee most be in the same Y-axis as your right shoulder, and your left shoulder in the same Y-axis as your right shoulder.
Your back most be straight, the leverage of the sword will help you maintain it.

Sword position: Right hand close to the tsuba, left hand directly behind it. Your sword most be pointing at "the opponent's knees". Your arms stretched, though having your elbows bent a little in order to manuever easier. The sword will be inclined in a lower Axis than your waist.

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I start off by straightening my body as I slide my right foot forward while slightly rotating it towards the right and as I do so I rotate my left foot about 45 degrees towards the left, having created the same body stance as used for the Chudan stance. I then my position right hand near the tsuba of my bokken, gripping onto it and position my left hand right behind it, near the end of the tsuka. Then I allign the tsuka to my belt as I turn the tip of the bokken downwards for about 45 degrees.
 

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I start off by straightening my body as I slide my right foot forward while slightly rotating it towards the right and as I do so I rotate my left foot about 45 degrees towards the left, having created the same body stance as used for the Chudan stance. I then my position right hand near the tsuba of my bokken, gripping onto it and position my left hand right behind it, near the end of the tsuka. Then I allign the tsuka to my belt as I turn the tip of the bokken downwards for about 45 degrees.

Great job ^^

Weakness and Strengths?
 

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Great job ^^

Weakness and Strengths?
Well, it's very similair to the chudan stance yet the sword is lower, to me this would seem that it is more difficult to attack while in this stance, although somehow it does look as though it'll be more effective than Chudan when defending from attacks from above due to the strength put it moving the sword upward.

:shrug:
 

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Well, it's very similair to the chudan stance yet the sword is lower, to me this would seem that it is more difficult to attack while in this stance, although somehow it does look as though it'll be more effective than Chudan when defending from attacks from above due to the strength put it moving the sword upward.

:shrug:
This stance is mostly a much more defensive stance. Because your blade points downward, it actually allows you to have much more easier maneuver to dodge attacks and counterattack.

This stance allows you to also block frontal and side attacks, but you need to describe in much more detail how to. This stance is one of the less used in kendo.


Questions?
 

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This stance is mostly a much more defensive stance. Because your blade points downward, it actually allows you to have much more easier maneuver to dodge attacks and counterattack.

This stance allows you to also block frontal and side attacks, but you need to describe in much more detail how to. This stance is one of the less used in kendo.


Questions?
Ah, so atleast I was right about it being better for defence o-o no questions
 

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Ah, so atleast I was right about it being better for defence o-o no questions
Now for the last stance:

Waki No Kamae

Your body: The position is almost the same as Chudan, though with some modifications.
Your right foot most be in behind your left foot, leaving a gap between both legs of approximately the distance between one shoulder from the other. Your right foot will be facing the direction of your body, that is, outside; your left foot will be facing toward your opponent.
Your back most be straight, the leverage of the sword will help you maintain it.

Sword position: Right hand close to the tsuba, left hand directly behind it. Your sword most be pointing at the opposite direction you are facing, with the sharp side away from your body. Your arms shouldn't be so stretched, as you would use a whip-kind motion to slash and gain momentum. The sword will be inclined in a lower Axis than your waist.

Waki kamae is not used in kendo matches, the kamae places the sword to rear opposite from the opponent effectively hiding the sword. Hiding the sword makes it difficult for the opponent to judge the distance for a strike. Appearing defenseless, or inviting the opponent to make a careless attack creates doubt and even fear in the opponent.

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Try out, please.
 
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