KCM Naruto vs Tobirama

[pateuvasiliu]

Yes, he does. Honestly, I don't see any difference between KCM Naruto's reaction to Base Naruto's reaction.

Then you need to get your eyes checked.

Tobirama wins mid diff at best.

 

[Gold Lightning]

i think tobirama can sense the difference between original and clone just like minato did (if i'm not mixing anime and manga) although if he has a SM clone then he probably takes it although tobirama can make clones too so not sure....!

I don't recall Minato sensing differences between clones. You're going to have to remind me. I doubt Tobirama can do that since I've never seen him do it.

And the amount of clones Naruto can make is far more than what Tobirama could make.

I'm gonna say KCM Naruto takes this, his speed and power are still incredible in this form and sage mode clones just sway this in Narutos favor.

 

[Oblivionx]

I don't recall Minato sensing differences between clones. You're going to have to remind me. I doubt Tobirama can do that since I've never seen him do it.

And the amount of clones Naruto can make is far more than what Tobirama could make.

I'm gonna say KCM Naruto takes this, his speed and power are still incredible in this form and sage mode clones just sway this in Narutos favor.

i don't really remember whether it is part of manga or not but team minato going on mission before kanabi bridge incident and minato touched the ground and said it's probably just a bunch of clones....! anyway i'll check...!

 

[Gold Lightning]

i don't really remember whether it is part of manga or not but team minato going on mission before kanabi bridge incident and minato touched the ground and said it's probably just a bunch of clones....! anyway i'll check...!

Oh that, it was just Minatos hunch. I remember when he first touched the ground he only sensed one enemy. Then all of a sudden the enemy count multiplied. Which is why Minato suspected that the enemy just made shadow clones. Minato can't actually sense the difference.

 

[Sendai Aka No Ou]

- Even Sasuke kept up with KCM Natuto.

- Raikage dodged a point-blank futon Rasenshuriken. Tobirama is faster than him.

- Mū dodged KCM Naruto's attack in mid-air from behind.

Just some things to consider. What's Nardo's durability?

 

[Avinash012]

- Even Sasuke kept up with KCM Natuto.

- Raikage dodged a point-blank futon Rasenshuriken. Tobirama is faster than him.

- Mū dodged KCM Naruto's attack in mid-air from behind.

Just some things to consider. What's Nardo's durability?

Sasuke never managed to keep up with KCM Naruto they are just running with normal speed and Naruto never used close range combat/speed blitz attacks against Rikage/Muu.

@Durablility:Fodder cloaks of SA tanked Juubi level Fire style.

Tobirama is not faster than Naruto(without FTG) but the point is that he can't control it properly which is why Tobirama has the advantage in case of speed.

OT: Tobirama ain't winning this mid dif according to current feats.

 

[Gold Lightning]

- Even Sasuke kept up with KCM Natuto.

- Raikage dodged a point-blank futon Rasenshuriken. Tobirama is faster than him.

- Mū dodged KCM Naruto's attack in mid-air from behind.

Just some things to consider. What's Nardo's durability?

1. I hate when people say stuff like this. KCM Naruto and sasuke didn't fight, they were working together. Of course naruto is going to have to slow down so sasuke can keep up.

2. Third Raikage is one of the fastest to ever live so don't talk about him like he was slow. Naruto still hit him with the Rasenshuriken so what's your point. It wasn't even 100% Naruto, it was a clone. You assume Tobirama is faster but at the end of the day you are just assuming. Maybe with FTG yes, but when it comes to body flicker, we'll never know.

3. Naruto was airborne, he can't fly or adjust or increase his speed while airborne can he? Mú sensed him long before Naruto got close to him, it was easy to fly out the way. Again this was just a clone and Naruto still got him did he not?

Don't underestimate KCM Naruto just because you're biased towards Tobirama.

 

[Touken]

lol, KCM Naruto got blitzed by Juubito, Tobirama did not.

Tobirama's doing the blitzing, not Naruto.

 

[Gold Lightning]

lol, KCM Naruto got blitzed by Juubito, Tobirama did not.

Tobirama's doing the blitzing, not Naruto.

Tobirama, Hashirama(his wood clone anyway), Hiruzen all got blitz by Juubito.

If it was alive Tobirama he would have died that instant, these Tobirama fans -_- reaching sasuke and Hiruzen level fsnboyism.

 

[Penguin]

Saying Tobirama is not the fastest in his era is like saying Minato is not fast, it is just his FTG. ._.

We all know the shunshin feats Madara and Hashirama have, and you can apply them to Tobirama due to Tobirama being faster than them. He is indeed the 2nd in foot speed only to Minato.

Tobirama, Hashirama(his wood clone anyway), Hiruzen all got blitz by Juubito.

If it was alive Tobirama he would have died that instant, these Tobirama fans -_- reaching sasuke and Hiruzen level fsnboyism.

No one knew of Juubito's speed to that point. I doubt they were expecting that. But ever since that point, Tobirama has yet to be hit by Juubito. Unlike a certain yellow haired friend of ours whose name shant be mentioned.

 

[Touken]

Tobirama, Hashirama(his wood clone anyway), Hiruzen all got blitz by Juubito.

If it was alive Tobirama he would have died that instant, these Tobirama fans -_- reaching sasuke and Hiruzen level fsnboyism.

He tagged him 5 times. He could have easily dodged that attack if he wanted to. KCM Naruto barely had the time to flinch when Juubito blitzed him.

lol @ Kaant saying Minato fanboys talk more about Tobirama than Tobirama fanboys. Honestly, this hate on a character is getting ridiculous now.

 

[Gold Lightning]

Saying Tobirama is not the fastest in his era is like saying Minato is not fast, it is just his FTG. ._.

We all know the shunshin feats Madara and Hashirama have, and you can apply them to Tobirama due to Tobirama being faster than them. He is indeed the 2nd in foot speed only to Minato.

Fastest in his era. Not the third Raikages era or Ay's era. When I see Tobirama shunshin as fast as Ay then we can talk.

 

[Avinash012]

lol, KCM Naruto got blitzed by Juubito, Tobirama did not.

Tobirama's doing the blitzing, not Naruto.

Lawd Tobirama is the first one to get that honour.

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Tobirama ain't blitzing Naruto.

Fastest in his era. Not the third Raikages era or Ay's era. When I see Tobirama shunshin as fast as Ay then we can talk.

FTG alone is more than enough to put him over 3rd Rikage interms of speed.

 

[Touken]

Lawd Tobirama is the first one to get that honour.

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Tobirama ain't blitzing Naruto.

-Tags him 5 times.

Please don't insinuate that Tobirama could not have dodged that attack if he wanted to.

 

[Gold Lightning]

Lawd Tobirama is the first one to get that honour.

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Tobirama ain't blitzing Naruto.

Read it and weep

 

[slimreaper]

I'd say Tobirama but what happens if Naruto uses his multi shadow clone jutsu. Each of his kcm clones are Kage level themselves. He can even make sage mode clones for additional support.

a hate when people say that. he would have lost hard to the third raikage if he wasn't helped and fed intel. he would have literally died in seconds if not saved by rubber guy and fed intel by him. not to mention the alliance stalled for him while he talked to the gyuki. as for the 2nd tsuchikage, Naruto would have died if gaara wasn't there to save his ass. in the end one hit is all it takes to make his clones go poof so lay off that kage level bullshit. hell he even got soloed by a zetzu

 

[Gold Lightning]

-Tags him 5 times.

Please don't insinuate that Tobirama could not have dodged that attack if he wanted to.

Please don't fan fic that Tobirama could dodge it.

He couldn't even own madara in speed and you think he has a chance against Jubito. Damn this is too funny.

 

[Avinash012]

-Tags him 5 times.

Please don't insinuate that Tobirama could not have dodged that attack if he wanted to.

U have any proof?

If only u can show me the scan of Tobirama dodging that kind of attacks,I'll be the first one to be happy about that as he is one of my fav characters.As far as I remember even Mianto was surprised after looking at his speed.

 

[Gold Lightning]

a hate when people say that. he would have lost hard to the third raikage if he wasn't helped and fed intel. he would have literally died in seconds if not saved by rubber guy and fed intel by him. not to mention the alliance stalled for him while he talked to the gyuki. as for the 2nd tsuchikage, Naruto would have died if gaara wasn't there to save his ass. in the end one hit is all it takes to make his clones go poof so lay off that kage level bullshit. hell he even got soloed by a zetzu

When Naruto hit third Raikage with the rasenshuriken it damaged him to the point that we saw cracks in his body. It's only because he's an Edo that he got up, that was before Naruto got help. If the RAIKAGE was alive it would have virtually been over then.

 

[Touken]

Please don't fan fic that Tobirama could dodge it.

He couldn't even own madara in speed and you think he has a chance against Jubito. Damn this is too funny.

The condescending tone you're putting on doesn't help you one bit if you can't even put up a good argument.

-Madara's stated himself that

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twice.
-Tobirama stated that they aren't at full power.
-Madara needed to use a Rinnegan tech to stop Tobirama from blitzing him.

Tobirama still wins.

U have any proof?

If only u can show me the scan of Tobirama dodging that kind of attacks,I'll be the first one to be happy about that as he is one of my fav characters.As far as I remember even Mianto was surprised after looking at his speed.

-KCM Naruto is slightly faster than Ay.
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-Tobirama tags him 5 times.

If he had the speed to tag him 5 times, how the hell could he have not dodged that attack if he wanted to?