kcm naruto and dsm kabuto vs Ms obito

[Prince Charles]

Intel- manga knowledge, includes war knowledge on kamui and etc (they dont know his obito)

location - where kabuto fought itachi and sasuke

restrictions- none

starting distance - 30 meters

intent - kill

who wins? Naruto can't combine sm, only kcm is allowed. When I said ms obito I meant Tobi basically.

 

[Touken]

Don't know how Obito wins considering both DSM Kabuto with his enhanced perception and KCM Naruto with his speed boost can counter Kamui since he needs to physically touch them in order to warp them.

If Obito Kamui's his eyes and ears to escape Hakugeki then he's essentially blind and deaf in the real world, putting him at a massive disadvantage.

 

[Optimistic]

obito summons the Nine Tails and rapes them both mentally and physically.

 

[NarutoIndra]

Team 1 win mid diff. Naruto has already shown to sense chakra while in KCM, without the use of SM. DSM can obviously sense Obito's body parts being present or not. Naruto can summon Gamakichi, who in turn reverse summons Shima and Fukasaku (without fusing since it's restricted). All three can use SM, meaning all three are of great help. DSM Kabuto's snakes sense as well. This is literally a stomp match up. DSM Kabuto can arguably defeat Tobi with high diff.

 

[KidGamer65]

Obito wins.

 

[Prince Charles]

Obito wins.

Mind explaining how? Kcm naruto has already to be capable of sensing and reacting to obito via his negative emotions and evade getting touched to get kamui'd.

 

[KidGamer65]

Mind explaining how? Kcm naruto has already to be capable of sensing and reacting to obito via his negative emotions and evade getting touched to get kamui'd.

So? He evaded it once but it doesn't mean he'll keep on evading it. Especially when Obito was able to evade every single attack this guy had and then

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Kabuto is zero help here at all, the first warp attempt on him would be the last. His moves are poorly suited for fighting against Obito and the one that would be most effective, White Rage, would disable Naruto as well, but Obito would be unaffected for two reasons.

-Half his body is Zetsu goop, so that part won't be affected by the bone vibration that causes paralysis.

-Kamui lets him phase through it.

The first option would let that part of his body function while White Rage is up, leaving the disable Naruto in danger.

 

[Touken]

So? He evaded it once but it doesn't mean he'll keep on evading it. Especially when Obito was able to evade every single attack this guy had and then

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Kabuto is zero help here at all, the first warp attempt on him would be the last. His moves are poorly suited for fighting against Obito and the one that would be most effective, White Rage, would disable Naruto as well, but Obito would be unaffected for two reasons.

-Half his body is Zetsu goop, so that part won't be affected by the bone vibration that causes paralysis.

-Kamui lets him phase through it.

The first option would let that part of his body function while White Rage is up, leaving the disable Naruto in danger.

Seems plausible, I guess Obito wins.

Kamui's so OP.

 

[Prince Charles]

So? He evaded it once but it doesn't mean he'll keep on evading it. Especially when Obito was able to evade every single attack this guy had and then

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Kabuto is zero help here at all, the first warp attempt on him would be the last. His moves are poorly suited for fighting against Obito and the one that would be most effective, White Rage, would disable Naruto as well, but Obito would be unaffected for two reasons.

-Half his body is Zetsu goop, so that part won't be affected by the bone vibration that causes paralysis.

-Kamui lets him phase through it.

The first option would let that part of his body function while White Rage is up, leaving the disable Naruto in danger.

Nice argument I change my view on the matter, Ill agree with you.

 

[Optimistic]

So? He evaded it once but it doesn't mean he'll keep on evading it. Especially when Obito was able to evade every single attack this guy had and then

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if it weren't for

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Kabuto is zero help here at all, the first warp attempt on him would be the last. His moves are poorly suited for fighting against Obito and the one that would be most effective, White Rage, would disable Naruto as well, but Obito would be unaffected for two reasons.

-Half his body is Zetsu goop, so that part won't be affected by the bone vibration that causes paralysis.

-Kamui lets him phase through it.

The first option would let that part of his body function while White Rage is up, leaving the disable Naruto in danger.

Not bad probably on the same level as Dark Artist.Probably.

 

[KidGamer65]

Not bad probably on the same level as Dark Artist.Probably.

Below actually.....

lmao..

 

[Shura]

Below actually.....

lmao..

You just admitted inferiority to Madara Rules. You said that Dark Artist is better than you. Dark Artist said that Madara Rules is better than him, therefore if we use ABC logic which is legit in every match up then Madara Rules >> You.

No need to be ashamed really. Madara Rules is the best debater on this site after-all. Dark Artist said so.

@On-Topic. Obito wins.​

 

[KidGamer65]

You just admitted inferiority to Madara Rules. You said that Dark Artist is better than you. Dark Artist said that Madara Rules is better than him, therefore if we use ABC logic which is legit in every match up then Madara Rules >> You.

No need to be ashamed really. Madara Rules is the best debater on this site after-all. Dark Artist said so.

@On-Topic. Obito wins.​

Yup, Dark Artist's word is law.

 

[Optimistic]

Yup, Dark Artist's word is law.

Indeed.

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[HiddenSound]

I want to say Team 1 wins... But Tobi wins.

 

[NarutoIndra]

So? He evaded it once but it doesn't mean he'll keep on evading it. Especially when Obito was able to evade every single attack this guy had and then

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if it weren't for

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Kabuto is zero help here at all, the first warp attempt on him would be the last. His moves are poorly suited for fighting against Obito and the one that would be most effective, White Rage, would disable Naruto as well, but Obito would be unaffected for two reasons.

-Half his body is Zetsu goop, so that part won't be affected by the bone vibration that causes paralysis.

-Kamui lets him phase through it.

The first option would let that part of his body function while White Rage is up, leaving the disable Naruto in danger.

I still disagree.
-Frog genjutsu and frog call can be used by Shima and Fuksaku, yet won't affect Kabuto since he can liquefy his ears if he wills.
-Sawarbi no Mai completely nullifies any attempts of Obito using Kamui on Kabuto, since he can instantly pop up at any bone present thus hindering kamui and making it an unviable option.
-Doki powered by senjutsu is often overlooked. It can be used right after Kyodaigumo has been summoned. The Kyodaigumo can release the thousands of small spiders on the floor. This would mean once a spider has finally touched Obito after he's became tangible, it would be obvious for Naruto and Kabuto that Obito is present again. This easily allows the three ethereal worms to either drain Obito, Muki tensei can be used, white rage can be used, Chou Odama FRS can be used, and chakra arms can be used.
-Manda 2 destroys Gedo effortlessly incase Gedo is summoned. Adding Gamabunta/Gamakichi/Gamahito/Gamaken is overkill.
Just providing a plausible outcome, because I refuse to believe Tobi can be such a weakness towards Kabuto were he simply warps him with no difficulty.

 

[Bieber]

Obito takes this.

 

[Unorthodox]

Indeed.

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obito wins

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[KidGamer65]

I still disagree.
-Frog genjutsu and frog call can be used by Shima and Fuksaku, yet won't affect Kabuto since he can liquefy his ears if he wills.

Frog Genjutsu took a whole chapter of prep, and Pain recognized it as Genjutsu from the

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. Which also shows that there is a lag time in which the toads have to sync their voices so the Genjutsu can actually take affect. Jiraiya also had to hide from Pain so he wouldn't get caught.

1. Obito can phase through anything and everything the Team throws at him.

2. Obito is faster than Pain.

3. There is nowhere to hide in this cave.

Result? The toads get killed long before they even finish prepping the Genjutsu. Even if they got it off, which is nigh impossible here, Obito can remain in ghost mode for 5 minutes, much longer than the toads can keep on singing. Gama Rinsho is not a factor.

Frog Call can also be phased through with Kamui or he can respond to any attacks by activating Kamui as it only paralyzes movements, Kamui's activation doesn't rely on movement.

-Sawarbi no Mai completely nullifies any attempts of Obito using Kamui on Kabuto, since he can instantly pop up at any bone present thus hindering kamui and making it an unviable option.

There is still the area Kabuto stands in, so no, that won't protect him, he'd end up phasing right through the bones and touching Kabuto anyway. He can also

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. In fact, surrounding himself would bones would only cause Kabuto to be limited in mobility (If that's what you are referring to)

-Doki powered by senjutsu is often overlooked. It can be used right after Kyodaigumo has been summoned. The Kyodaigumo can release the thousands of small spiders on the floor. This would mean once a spider has finally touched Obito after he's became tangible, it would be obvious for Naruto and Kabuto that Obito is present again. This easily allows the three ethereal worms to either drain Obito, Muki tensei can be used, white rage can be used, Chou Odama FRS can be used, and chakra arms can be used.

Obito simply burns Kyodaigumo and its small spiders with his Bakufu Rambu.

I hope you don't think the Doki are factors here. Senjutsu isn't going to make them any less useless in this situation than they already are.

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Can all handle the Doki.


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Manda 2 destroys Gedo effortlessly incase Gedo is summoned. Adding Gamabunta/Gamakichi/Gamahito/Gamaken is overkill.

I'm not gonna bother responding to this since Gedo Mazo can't be summoned by MS Obito, but LOL if you think Manda II is taking on the Mazo. Mazo would rape it and the toads with its

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as seen when Kistuchi's Mountains were

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tossed Choji and his dad back effortlessly and its strong enough to

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. Toads aren't hurting it at all and they aren't taking on its chakra blasts.

Not to mention he can just Genjutsu Manda II and have him destroy the other toad summonings.

 

[NarutoIndra]

Frog Genjutsu took a whole chapter of prep, and Pain recognized it as Genjutsu from the

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. Which also shows that there is a lag time in which the toads have to sync their voices so the Genjutsu can actually take affect. Jiraiya also had to hide from Pain so he wouldn't get caught.

1. Obito can phase through anything and everything the Team throws at him.

2. Obito is faster than Pain.

3. There is nowhere to hide in this cave.

Result? The toads get killed long before they even finish prepping the Genjutsu. Even if they got it off, which is nigh impossible here, Obito can remain in ghost mode for 5 minutes, much longer than the toads can keep on singing. Gama Rinsho is not a factor.

Frog Call can also be phased through with Kamui or he can respond to any attacks by activating Kamui as it only paralyzes movements, Kamui's activation doesn't rely on movement.



There is still the area Kabuto stands in, so no, that won't protect him, he'd end up phasing right through the bones and touching Kabuto anyway. He can also

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. In fact, surrounding himself would bones would only cause Kabuto to be limited in mobility (If that's what you are referring to)





Obito simply burns Kyodaigumo and its small spiders with his Bakufu Rambu.

I hope you don't think the Doki are factors here. Senjutsu isn't going to make them any less useless in this situation than they already are.

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Can all handle the Doki.


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I'm not gonna bother responding to this since Gedo Mazo can't be summoned by MS Obito, but LOL if you think Manda II is taking on the Mazo. Mazo would rape it and the toads with its

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as seen when Kistuchi's Mountains were

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. Its

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tossed Choji and his dad back effortlessly and its strong enough to

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. It also t

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. Toads aren't hurting it at all and they aren't taking on its chakra blasts.

Not to mention he can just Genjutsu Manda II and have him destroy the other toad summonings.

Alright I'll stfu now.