KCM Kakashi > Sasuke

[Boston Rob]

Yes, till Sasuke shows something new of EMS which even Madara didn't know about it

 

[Wik]

Oh, really?

So I guess, Obito giving Kakashi a Sharingan and letting him live is life is not canon and cannot be considered as his whole strength?
Don't be ridiculous, like you said, your whole argument depended on KAMUI (Obito's Mangekyo).
Besides, your matchup isn't even a 1v1 as Naruto aided Kakashi by lending him chakra before facing Sasuke.
Even with those, Sasuke still wins.

Wow this guy... The thread isn't about a fair matchup. It's not to say that Kakashi>Sasuke. It's to say Kakashi with an unfair advantage>Sasuke.

I think most people here underestimate Kakashi tbh. If given opportunity He could Kamui half of sasuke in a blink of an eye just as easily as Sasuke could use amaterasu on Kakashi. If Kakashi can Kamui a needle as he could against pain it's also not unreasonable to assume that he could Kamui amaterasu flames off himself. When facing off after Danzo fight Kakashi is shown to have around the same base speed as Sasuke as well.

If you don't consider Sasukes unknown powerup from EMS which hasn't been shown Kakashi with Kurama chakra would easily take this as my comparrison above is of the two in regular conditions. Kakashi could even stand up to Sasuke without the chakra boost if you ask me (Note that standing up isn't the same as winning.)

 

[Bogard]

I thought it was obvious. I am one of the people who believe alive Kakashi can give him run of his money and has chances to win, so giving him Kyubi's chakra with the multiple advantages it has, makes it a stomp on Kakashi's favor. I disagree with one thing in your thread though. When you say that Sasuke is much faster than Kakashi. I don't know if you were joking when you said that, because i actually thought they were around the same level in speed, some even think it is the contrary

 

[the dark king]

undeniably true sasuke stands no chance in this scenario there's just no way he can win

 

[garas56]

I agrre Still Its wuld be Hard fight....

 

[KidGamer65]

Due to Kamui he would win. Without it Sasuke wins mid diff.

 

[Uchiha Style]

Lol, no

Sasuke>>>>>>Kakashi without Susanoo

Kakashi is fodder who got his ass handed to him by a blind Sasuke....after one Kamui and he looked like a dead dog....please, don't compare a fodder like Kakashi to Lord Sasuke,

 

[Fecal Matter]

Maybe Kakashi due to Kamui.

 

[EZQ]

Sasuke > Kakashi

Come on, so you're saying that kakashi needs naruto to give him chakra? That's not his own power... So this is a nonsense thread.

Also, kakashi WITHOUT KCM stands a small chance with kamui.

 

[shelke]

Speculation at best. Kamui might warp away Susano'o as it acts as a shield/wall against ALL attacks, but will it warp Sasuke inside it as well? Moot point. It can also be evaded by throwing something at the warp point, as Kakashi's Kamui sucked two arrows not one. Third is your disastrous notion that Kakashi can somehow evade Kirin once thrown at him. Are you kidding me? Lightening strikes at the rate of 4000 Km / sec. The second Sasuke throws it at Kakashi, he's obliterated before he can even blink.

Your speed point is nothing but speculation, as even Obito was able to keep up with Naruto in BM. Has Kakashi shown any speed feat at all? He cannot sense anything, hence is completely susceptible to Amaterasu, which A evaded by not only charging his Ration armour to the max but using body flicker as well. Kakashi is not evading Amaterasu, that is for sure. And how can he Kamui something when he will never sense it? What are even basing this on?

Susao'o is a fodder compared to Hachibi? I am not sure what kind of clever point this is.

Intelligence point is again biased, lopsided, and unsupported by Manga. Sasuke has shown quick silver, high tier intelligence through out the manga and Gai himself ventured that Sasuke was akin to Kakashi. Shikamaru looked up to him for his intelligence. Both of them are intelligent in their own right. Whilst no one should venture that Sasuke trumps them here, but he does not possess a lesser intelligence as well. This is a fact. It's about time this base accepted it.

Even a reflex is brought about by muscle work, and that is about a few miles per hour for neural speed. It's a million times slower that Lightening and Sasuke's Kirin destroyed a whole building top over a large radius. Good luck with your counter endeavours.

I'm stupid? Okay lol

It's kind of ironic isn't it? Sasuke's whole strength depended on Itachi giving him EMS, Amaterasu & wait what was that? HIS LIFE

Wait what? Show me a page where Itachi transferred his techs to Sasuke, other than that single 'Trap Amaterasu' to kill Obito. Otherwise, shame on you. Who cares he gave his life? It was his choice and EMS is a Clan specific ritual, not applicable to anyone outside it. No one should be bothered about Sasuke utilizing it to gain a higher Ocular Power. Big freaking deal, deal with it, and get over it.

Anyhow EMS Sasuke takes this, as this is nothing but speculation at this point.

 

[Zenic]

Speculation at best. Kamui might warp away Susano'o as it acts as a shield/wall against ALL attacks, but will it warp Sasuke inside it as well? Moot point. It can also be evaded by throwing something at the warp point, as Kakashi's Kamui sucked two arrows not one. Third is your disastrous notion that Kakashi can somehow evade Kirin once thrown at him. Are you kidding me? Lightening strikes at the rate of 4000 Km / sec. The second Sasuke throws it at Kakashi, he's obliterated before he can even blink.

Your speed point is nothing but speculation, as even Obito was able to keep up with Naruto in BM. Has Kakashi shown any speed feat at all? He cannot sense anything, hence is completely susceptible to Amaterasu, which A evaded by not only charging his Ration armour to the max but using body flicker as well. Kakashi is not evading Amaterasu, that is for sure. And how can he Kamui something when he will never sense it? What are even basing this on?

Susao'o is a fodder compared to Hachibi? I am not sure what kind of clever point this is.

Intelligence point is again biased, lopsided, and unsupported by Manga. Sasuke has shown quick silver, high tier intelligence through out the manga and Gai himself ventured that Sasuke was akin to Kakashi. Shikamaru looked up to him for his intelligence. Both of them are intelligent in their own right. Whilst no one should venture that Sasuke trumps them here, but he does not possess a lesser intelligence as well. This is a fact. It's about time this base accepted it.

Even a reflex is brought about by muscle work, and that is about a few miles per hour for neural speed. It's a million times slower that Lightening and Sasuke's Kirin destroyed a whole building top over a large radius. Good luck with your counter endeavours.



Wait what? Show me a page where Itachi transferred his techs to Sasuke, other than that single 'Trap Amaterasu' to kill Obito. Otherwise, shame on you. Who cares he gave his life? It was his choice and EMS is a Clan specific ritual, not applicable to anyone outside it. No one should be bothered about Sasuke utilizing it to gain a higher Ocular Power. Big freaking deal, deal with it, and get over it.

Anyhow EMS Sasuke takes this, as this is nothing but speculation at this point.

Counter what? I already countered Kirin, Kirin takes prep time and Kakashi can easily Kamui Sasuke whilst preparing Kirin. You're telling me a veteran like Kakashi is inferior to Sasuke in terms of battle intelligence?

Tell me one intelligent feat Sasuke has shown that Kakashi's pales in comparison? Sasuke left himself vulnerable to Itachi with no backup plan, he was as helpless as a dog with no legs being chased by a lion. He was out of chakra, strength and confidence. If Itachi was evil, Sasuke wouldn't be alive right now. He'd be sealed away by Totsuka blade during their fight.