KCM Kakashi > Sasuke

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*Before I start this thread, KCM means Kurama chakra mode*


Speed:

Sasuke is undoubtedly much faster than Kakashi. However, with Kurama's chakra Kakashi can match Sasuke's speed or he may very well surpass Sasuke's speed. It is shown that with Kurama's chakra your speed rapidly ascends and Naruto was at least 3 times as fast as he was in base mode.

We can now safely establish that Kakashi is faster than Sasuke whilst in control of Kurama's chakra.


Intelligence:

Sasuke is often shown walking into a trap and only making it out alive at the nick of time (shown whilst fighting Deidara). Kakashi however is far smarter than that, Kakashi often has more than 10 scenario's planned out for a single fight. Remember when Pain threw that nail at Kakashi and he kamui'ed it but pretended to be hurt? That itself needed a sh*t load of concentration as he had already used half of his chakra, didn't have MS activated yet, main objective was to gather intel & he had to protect Chouji at the same time.

Do you think Sasuke could have planned all that out under so much pressure? Sasuke's was shown crapping his pants as soon as Itachi brought out his Susano'o, he was completely vulnerable and he had no plan. If Itachi wanted to kill him Sasuke would have no counter since he used up all his chakra using Kirin, Chidori & Sharingan.

Some people may still argue that Sasuke is smarter but most people will now agree that Kakashi is smarter than Sasuke.


Kakashi's counter to Sasuke's arsenal:

Under normal circumstances Kakashi stands no chance against Kirin, Susano'o jutsu's or Amaterasu but keep in mind that Kakashi has Kurama's chakra which means he's faster, stronger & has at least 10 times the chakra he usually has.

Counter to Kirin - We can go back to the argument of speed when we are putting Kakashi up against Kirin. We all know Kirin needs a lot of preparation time and even if he managed to prepare it Kakashi could easily avoid it since he's almost as fast as Killer Bee. While Sasuke is preparing Kirin he will obviously have Susano'o up and Kakashi can easily kamui Sasuke and his Susano'o. Many will argue that Kakashi can not kamui something that large but he did warp Hachibi with Kurama's chakra didn't he?

So, we now know that Kirin will be no problem for Kakashi.

Counter to Susano'o - Refer back to Kirin, Kakashi can easily Kamui all the Susano'o arrows Sasuke will spam. Once Sasuke is out of chakra Kakashi will still have enough to Kamui Sasuke. It's really simple if you think about it,

Kamui > Hachibi, Hachibi > Susano'o in terms of chakra so Kakashi will have no trouble against something so fodder compared to the 8 tails.

Counter to Amaterasu - Most people think this is an impossible feat but Amaterasu can only burn what it can set it's sights on, Kakashi is just too fast to be affected by Amaterasu and even if he comes skin close to it he can Kamui it.


Fight information:

Intelligence - Full
Battleground - Valley of the end
Restrictions - None
Intention - To kill
Starting distance - 50m away from eachother

Conclusion:

I know my whole argument depends on Kamui but in all seriousness, does Kakashi need anything more? If you read all of it you'll understand that KCM Kakashi > EMS Sasuke

Kakashi has a counter to everything, the evidence is there to support it, Kakashi is faster, Kakashi is smarter, Kakashi has more chakra & Kakashi is more experienced.
 

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no way. sasuke is the strongest other than the sage elder sons and juubi. you are making you're self look idiotic.
 

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Whaat maybe man hard to tell good points
 

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Sasuke... He's strong...just very...well not smart, when it comes to battling..
His plans are usually, attack then maybe win. No strategies at all.
 

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no way. sasuke is the strongest other than the sage elder sons and juubi. you are making you're self look idiotic.

You didn't even read so what you're saying is:

Sage's son's > The sage of 6 paths? Because you just said Sasuke > SO6P

Don't be mad fool

Agreeeeeeeed.

Thanks! It's my first proper VS/Establishing thread so I'm sorry if I left bits out ^.^
 

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Your thread is stupid and so are you.

So, Kakashi first needs Naruto to give him some chakra before starting the match?
Fail.
 

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you guys are all haters. if you deny sasuke being the strongest then i have bad news for you.
 

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Your thread is stupid and so are you.

So, Kakashi first needs Naruto to give him some chakra before starting the match?
Fail.

I'm stupid? Okay lol

It's kind of ironic isn't it? Sasuke's whole strength depended on Itachi giving him EMS, Amaterasu & wait what was that? HIS LIFE

you guys are all haters. if you deny sasuke being the strongest then i have bad news for you.

BM Naruto > Sasuke

Madara > Sasuke

Obito > Sasuke

Kabuto > Sasuke

Hashirama > Sasuke

there are at least 10 more characters stronger than Sasuke, so no. Sasuke is not the strongest
 

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Your thread is stupid and so are you.

So, Kakashi first needs Naruto to give him some chakra before starting the match?
Fail.

well still. with kyuubi chakra sasuke cannot handle kakashi. i mean its not to say kakashi>Sasuke though. im a kakashi fan and say sasuke>Kakashi. but its hard to see how he would win if he is cloaked with kyuubi chakra
 

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I'm stupid? Okay lol

It's kind of ironic isn't it? Sasuke's whole strength depended on Itachi giving him EMS, Amaterasu & wait what was that? HIS LIFE



BM Naruto > Sasuke

Madara > Sasuke

Obito > Sasuke

Kabuto > Sasuke

Hashirama > Sasuke

there are at least 10 more characters stronger than Sasuke, so no. Sasuke is not the strongest
thats crazy talk. Sasuke is too smart for those guys. he can make a plan and kill them easy. Plus he is fast and has EMS/
How do we know you are not a of hater of sasuke to??
Me hating sasuke is like Men hating po.rn.
 

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thats crazy talk. Sasuke is too smart for those guys. he can make a plan and kill them easy. Plus he is fast and has EMS/

Me hating sasuke is like Men hating po.rn.

OMG you mean business
 
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