Karin is the biological mother! get over it.

[Darth Uchiha]

Or it was given to her genius :sdo:

How would that possibly work? To gain that DNA, you would have to genetically engineer her or somehow implant DNA into every single one of her cells and ensure that process doesn't turn cancerous and kill her. And then you would need to make sure that the immune system wouldn't view the new cells as an infection and destroy them. Considering the only way this makes sense is via generic engineering (which is far fetched even for this series) Karin is still the biological mother in that scenario.

 

[ANiMUS]

How would that possibly work? To gain that DNA, you would have to genetically engineer her or somehow implant DNA into every single one of her cells and ensure that process doesn't turn cancerous and kill her. And then you would need to make sure that the immune system wouldn't view the new cells as an infection and destroy them. Considering the only way this makes sense is via generic engineering (which is far fetched even for this series) Karin is still the biological mother in that scenario.

Same way Kabuto gained Orochimaru's cells :| he didn't implant the DNA into every cell nor did the cells turn cancerous. They simply tried to take over. Manga logic is manga logic. Genetic experiments are only as difficult as Kishimoto makes it.

 

[shelke]

As far as the DNA test goes, then it's either this:

The Red Herring is not for Sakura; it's for Karin. Orochimaru is using karin's body. I compared the facial structures yesterday and day before yesterday to confirm this. The tilt of the head, her mysterious absence from the main compound, and Orochimaru's clone experiments with Shin ... it seems to fit nicely together. Also, the fact that 1) Chouchou couldn't guess whether Orochimaru looked like a man or a woman, gives an indication that he is using a female body most likely and 2) Suigetsu thinks that Karin is on some other hideout is also solid enough reason to cement this argument; he doesn't exactly know where she is.

So Orochimaru either 1) gave birth to Sarada, through some freakish Kishimoto developed science, or 2) she's an experiment that uses Sasuke and Karin's Dna. Sasuke most probably found her on his travels. That's what I think anyway. But this route seems to be too dark for a Shonen manga, especially the exploration of sexual boundaries through Orochimaru; a very very complex topic for a manga like Naruto. Too complex, in fact.

Or this:

The Red Herring is for Sakura. If one looks at it from this angle, then it has been a pathetic red herring from the start:

- Salad questions whether Sakura is her mom or not for no reason at all. The first red herring premise. It happens world over that people marry through arranged marriages and fathers go abroad and they can't come back for a considerable time. Sometimes more than a decade.

- Sakura loses her cool, enough, to punch the ground for no reason, and conviniently, the whole house is destroyed and Salad sees the cracked picture out of the entire rumble.

- Sakura faints before she can answer, and conviniently doesn't wake up before Salad doesn't leave.

- When she meets up with them, and seems ready to answer Salada's questions, Sakura is conveniently taken away.

- When Salad shows up at the compound, the one person that can say yes or no, isn't at the compound but somewhere else.

- Suigetsu probably didn't mess up, and Sakura was given Karin's Dna for the birth. Since we don't know where Sakura gave birth, it could very well have been out of the village, as she wanted to travel with Sasuke.

Karin may have overseen the birth and helped. Not very far-fetched.

If Kishimoto is going for this Sasuke x Karin route, then he has a cheap way of showing it as this has low-key red herring written all over it. Not to mention the fact that I can't see an out of wed-lock affair happening in a manga aimed at 12 year olds. This would be too realistic and too crude for such type of manga with very low rating bar.

This can be titled in so many ways, as the confirming part either isn't there, or simply chose not to say anything. Nothing is confirmed at the moment.

Please. There are so many ways this could be flipped.

I will almost guarantee Kishi is trolling in some way.

Nothing is truly confirmed until Sasuke, Karin, or Sakura says it.

I agree. This has too many loop-holes to take seriously for now.

 

[Darth Uchiha]

Same way Kabuto gained Orochimaru's cells :| he didn't implant the DNA into every cell nor did the cells turn cancerous. They simply tried to take over. Manga logic is manga logic. Genetic experiments are only as difficult as Kishimoto makes it.

The cells trying to take over pretty much means they were cancerous, and, at the very least they changed his appearance and nearly killed him. If he, a grown man, barely survived, why would a child?

 

[Ace95]

Probably at this point in the manga the most logical option is probably Sakura was infertile, Karin donated an egg, it got inseminated through IVF. It was then implanted into Sakura and hence Sarada was born. This scenario answers all relevant questions, why Sarada has Karins DNA, coincides with Sasuke and Sakura being married but the child having Karins DNA and probably why there is no birth cert as this kind of treatment can probably only be done in one of Orochimarus' labs.

 

[Darth Uchiha]

As far as the DNA test goes, then it's either this:

The Red Herring is not for Sakura; it's for Karin. Orochimaru is using karin's body. I compared the facial structures yesterday and day before yesterday to confirm this. The tilt of the head, her mysterious absence from the main compound, and Orochimaru's clone experiments with Shin ... it seems to fit nicely together. Also, the fact that 1) Chouchou couldn't guess whether Orochimaru looked like a man or a woman, gives an indication that he is using a female body most likely and 2) Suigetsu thinks that Karin is on some other hideout is also solid enough reason to cement this argument; he doesn't exactly know where she is.

So Orochimaru either 1) gave birth to Sarada, through some freakish Kishimoto developed science, or 2) she's an experiment that uses Sasuke and Karin's Dna. Sasuke most probably found her on his travels. That's what I think anyway. But this route seems to be too dark for a Shonen manga, especially the exploration of sexual boundaries through Orochimaru; a very very complex topic for a manga like Naruto. Too complex, in fact.

Or this:

The Red Herring is for Sakura. If one looks at it from this angle, then it has been a pathetic red herring from the start:

- Salad questions whether Sakura is her mom or not for no reason at all. The first red herring premise. It happens world over that people marry through arranged marriages and fathers go abroad and they can't come back for a considerable time. Sometimes more than a decade.

- Sakura loses her cool, enough, to punch the ground for no reason, and conviniently, the whole house is destroyed and Salad sees the cracked picture out of the entire rumble.

- Sakura faints before she can answer, and conviniently doesn't wake up before Salad doesn't leave.

- When she meets up with them, and seems ready to answer Salada's questions, Sakura is conveniently taken away.

- When Salad shows up at the compound, the one person that can say yes or no, isn't at the compound but somewhere else.

- Suigetsu probably didn't mess up, and Sakura was given Karin's Dna for the birth. Since we don't know where Sakura gave birth, it could very well have been out of the village, as she wanted to travel with Sasuke.

Karin may have overseen the birth and helped. Not very far-fetched.

If Kishimoto is going for this Sasuke x Karin route, then he has a cheap way of showing it as this has low-key red herring written all over it. Not to mention the fact that I can't see an out of wed-lock affair happening in a manga aimed at 12 year olds. This would be too realistic and too crude for such type of manga with very low rating bar.

This can be titled in so many ways, as the confirming part either isn't there, or simply chose not to say anything. Nothing is confirmed at the moment.



I agree. This has too many loop-holes to take seriously for now.

If Orochimaru has taken over Karin's body (ew) and Sasuke had *** with him/her (EW) Karin is still, basically, the mother.

 

[shelke]

If Orochimaru has taken over Karin's body (ew) and Sasuke had *** with him/her (EW) Karin is still, basically, the mother.

I never said anything about ***. Kids can be born without it. You only need the sperm from the donor. And Kishimoto has bent plenty of biological rules, so who knows, he might simply have used Dna to do so.

Anyway, too complex for this manga from kids who use "EWWW" to talk about the topic. Which is why I am second guessing my theory.

 

[Darth Uchiha]

I never said anything about ***. Kids can be born without it. You only need the sperm from the donor. And Kishimoto has bent plenty of biological rules, so who knows, he might simply have used Dna to do so.

Anyway, too complex for this manga from kids who use "EWWW" to talk about the topic. Which is why I am second guessing my theory.

Tbh I didn't bother reading most of your post, it's the same logical olympics I keep seeing here to make Sakura the mother when the easiest answer is that she isn't. Wife and mother of my child are two separate things.

 

[ANiMUS]

The cells trying to take over pretty much means they were cancerous, and, at the very least they changed his appearance and nearly killed him. If he, a grown man, barely survived, why would a child?

Indra+Ashura= hagoromo
they are both part of the Sage lineage so their powers r compatible since they r part of the same line.

 

[~Ethereal~]

I see.

 

[Darth Uchiha]

Indra=Ashura :|
they are both part of the Sage lineage so their powers r compatible

That argument doesn't even make sense...

 

[Shruikan]

You keep putting yourself in a smaller box dude.

3rd hokage told everybody to Naruto's birth a secret, right?

What if Saskue asked the same?

lmao.Sakura and Salad are wearing Uchiha symbols all over the place including the fact that the house itself is plastered with Uchiha logos
.It doesnt take much to figure out whose the only Uchiha alive and conseqently his family

 

[ANiMUS]

That argument doesn't even make sense...

Y not?
Sasuke and Madara had no problem taking Hashirama cells, but when orochimaru was doing experiments the implants killed ppl. However Uchiha have never had anything resembling an adverse reaction

 

[Darth Uchiha]

Y not?
Sasuke and Madara had no problem taking Hashirama cells, but when orochimaru was doing experiments the implants killed ppl. However Uchiha have never had anything resembling an adverse reaction

Because Madara and Sasuke were transmigrants while Sarada is not.

 

[shelke]

Tbh I didn't bother reading most of your post, it's the same logical olympics I keep seeing here to make Sakura the mother when the easiest answer is that she isn't. Wife and mother of my child are two separate things.

Look man, it's the same logic on the other side of the fence as well. Some of you are probably children to be swayed by such a common hood-winking tactics the writers use. Some of us are better than that. Whether she's the mother or not is irrelevant for me, but so far, there are countless loop holes that can be exploited to tilt it completely on its head. So far, I am not convinced.

 

[Xāvî1]

Maybe? Maybe? Will Kishi troll? Who knows?

But what we do now is that, Sakura loves her unconditionally.

Give her those props.

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how about no!!

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[ANiMUS]

Because Madara and Sasuke were transmigrants while Sarada is not.

I doubt transmigrants means much in this situation. Other Uchiha besides Madara and Sasuke have also used senju dna to use izanagi

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[Exaar]

You need more than that to prove Karin pushed Karin out of her vagina.

The manga has already proven that life can be created via science and people can created in tubes.

Sarada currently shares to much with karin for it to be a mere coincidence. Based of everything that has happened currently there is more proof of sarada being karins than not.
The burden of needing proof is on sakura supports not karin due to the amount of evidence there is currently for karin supporters.

Currently we know of only two Orochimaru and Shin who can create such clones. Both have interacted with her, Neither have done or said anything to indicate she was a former "experiment" or the her birth in some way involved them

 

[Darth Uchiha]

Look man, it's the same logic on the other side of the fence as well. Some of you are probably children to be swayed by such a common hood-winking tactics the writers use. Some of us are better than that. Whether she's the mother or not is irrelevant for me, but so far, there are countless loop holes that can be exploited to tilt it completely on its head. So far, I am not convinced.

Basically for this to make sense either:

-Sarada magically has Karin's DNA via, I don't know who cares, Sakura is the mom

-Suigetsu is capable of running a DNA test but can't tell the *** of an individual based on their DNA, somehow (it's Sasuke's theory)

-Sarada is genetically engineered (just plain weird)

-Sakura is infertile (somewhat sensible)

-Suigetsu is color-blind and it was a sample from Sasuke (because genetics tests are run using funky colors and that wasn't Karin's picture that showed up)

-Orochimaru is using Karin...because that means something

Come on, don't you realize how stupid these all really sound?

 

[shelke]

Basically for this to make sense either:

-Sarada magically has Karin's DNA via, I don't know who cares, Sakura is the mom

-Suigetsu is capable of running a DNA test but can't tell the *** of an individual based on their DNA, somehow (it's Sasuke's theory)

-Sarada is genetically engineered (just plain weird)

-Sakura is infertile (somewhat sensible)

-Suigetsu is color-blind and it was a sample from Sasuke (because genetics tests are run using funky colors and that wasn't Karin's picture that showed up)

-Orochimaru is using Karin...because that means something

Come on, don't you realize how stupid these all really sound?

To you, may be.