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Kakashi still wins... Ps rips Madara to shreads... Once Madara body is splattered all over the BF Kakashi Kamui him...
Scene 2- Kakashi negs diff...
Scene 2- Kakashi negs diff...
No it's deluded. Since you already did it to yourself it's past tense.*Delude*
ps rips him apart. Heck raikiri can cut him in half.Any logical person knows that there is nothing Kakashi can do to harm Madara.
No seeing as how kakashi has both eyes thus can cancel madara's kamui. It makes madara having that eye pointless and demotes him to 1 rinne madara.Giving him MS would just be handing over kakashi's body to Madara.
1)Double ms already proved to be faster than goudama movementsNo matter how many senerio you conjure up in your head, Madara can send a limbo clone or Gudodama into dimensions
if he decides to fight kakashi he gets blitzed like the superior kaguya did. He can't send a limbo clone to kamui land without it getting canceled, and even if he does after time passes it's useless there.As soon as Madara decides to fight in the real world, any type of phasing Kakashi uses to evade will surely be a neg diff overkill Kakashi.
So if you really know the truth...
Kakashi should be the least thing that comes to mind in this match up
No it's deluded. Since you already did it to yourself it's past tense.
ps rips him apart. Heck raikiri can cut him in half.
No seeing as how kakashi has both eyes thus can cancel madara's kamui. It makes madara having that eye pointless and demotes him to 1 rinne madara.
1)Double ms already proved to be faster than goudama movements
2) putting goudama in the kamuiland makes it useless since it's a dimension apart from its user (range limit is 70m or 70ft)
3) putting limbo in kamui land is useless since after a set time they'd have to return to the real world but can't since they don't have the ability to use kamui.
Really and truly this is dms kakashi vs 1 rinne mads. His other eye doesn't help him in any way shape or form.
if he decides to fight kakashi he gets blitzed like the superior kaguya did. He can't send a limbo clone to kamui land without it getting canceled, and even if he does after time passes it's useless there.
I do and I explained above. Madara isn't beating him.
Juubi jin Madara's susanoo > Kakashi Limbo shits kamui is countered with Madara's own kamui
I am. It's perfectly logical who kakashi takes thisThat wasn't a correction, I kept that specific word in pounds because you call a logical seeker...
Deluded.
whatever manI should of bold it instead
He was aiming to cut off her options. Not to kill. Why else would he sever her arm instead of stabbing her heart?You mean like it did Kaguya?
So which part of immortal didn't you understand?
a) kaguya is more durable than madaraHis raikiri couldn't even split Kaguya in half, so sure as hell not Madara
Clone. It's only 1.Invisible limbo clones
since when did biju have more durability than ps?will pound Susanoo like no tomorrow, just one was able to ko all nine bijuus,
But it's not even touching kakashi. Basic taijutsu from limbo isn't getting past ps.anymore than that will spell death for someone like Kakashi.
obito canceled kakashi's kamui on the gedo mazo and he canceled kakashi's kamui on v2 juubiKeep the fan fic in a different section, there is no such thing as canceling kamui it's never been done before.
it's not hyep it's feats. He gets all of obito's ocular abilities as stated by obito and proven by kakashi. And the eye that madara has(long range) hasn't shown the ability to cancel kamui. Only short range has that feat. So yeah mads can't do it, take your fanfiction elsewhere.Fake eyes don't get such hype anyway, Madara has Obito's real physical eyes...
and as such contains all of obito's ms abilities and then some.The only thing Kakashi got was a reflection of Obito's chakra in his eyes.
since when could limbo clones use godudama? Are u dense? Once the godudama leaves the 70m range their useless.Limbo clone attached to a Gudodama
since when was godudama a dimension buster? Last I checked that only applies to kaguya's godudama since it's a trillion times bigger than madara's (or anyone else's 4 that matter)will eradicate kamui dimension leaving Kakashi's body into meat sack.
please prove that his limbo CLONE(can't stress that enough it's only 1) cant funtion for extended periods of time in kamui land.All Madara has to do is attack Kakashi while sending his clone in dimensions
-explains how kakashi stops madara's kamui use.*deluded*
yes he did. He shunshin'shunshin ' off 9 his susanno and struck her with raikiri. Her being a entity capable of flight means had the means and ability to get out of the way. Which she did whenever it came to sasuke, and it most cases naruto.Kakashi never blitzed Kaguya, only some as fast as Sasuke did twice.
it would be a blitz if she wasn't distracted by naruto and sasuke. But seeing as how she was it's more along the lines of a sneak attack. It's not a sneak attack for kakashi since.(Free falling from the sky is not blitzing, unless your saying Sakura blitzed Kaguya too?)
that's how substitution jutsu works.1) first time he substituted with a clone
Didn't kakashi manage to turn around? Despite being fatigued? That's a physical reaction. So much for "instant speed". Sasuke, naruto, Kaguya and Kakashi must have speeds faster that instant according to u.2) second time he stopped to snatch kakashi's eyes
I'm pretty sure the comparison was only between sage modes. I'll have to recheck that. In truth it doesn't matter. V1 kaguya is faster than madara, that was getting blitzed left and right by sasuke and Naruto. Only naruto managed to land hits on v1 kaguya. Kakashi's blitzes v2 kaguya.Madara moves instantaneously like a ftg user, even the databook compared naruto's instant reflexes to Madara's instant speed.
cute.Madara eats him alive...
This is the third time I had to correct you. It's limbo CLONELimbo clones
still can't touch kamui users when using intangibility, still can't get past ps.are invisible to those except for rinnegan users and rikudou senjustu users.
fails to explain how it will get past ghost mode or ps.Kakashi has neither of those, his head will be ripped clean before he can even blink.
failed to explain how clones use godudama, fails to explain how godudama works an entire dimension away when it stops working 70 ft/m away.Going into dimensions will give him a chance to blow his body to bits with a limbo clone attached with a Gudodama.
I am. It's perfectly logical who kakashi takes this
whatever man
He was aiming to cut off her options. Not to kill. Why else would he sever her arm instead of stabbing her heart?
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a) kaguya is more durable than madara
b) kakashi wasn't aiming to kill.
Clone. It's only 1.
since when did biju have more durability than ps?
But it's not even touching kakashi. Basic taijutsu from limbo isn't getting past ps.
obito canceled kakashi's kamui on the gedo mazo and he canceled kakashi's kamui on v2 juubi
it's not hyep it's feats. He gets all of obito's ocular abilities as stated by obito and proven by kakashi. And the eye that madara has(long range) hasn't shown the ability to cancel kamui. Only short range has that feat. So yeah mads can't do it, take your fanfiction elsewhere.
and as such contains all of obito's ms abilities and then some.
since when could limbo clones use godudama? Are u dense? Once the godudama leaves the 70m range their useless. since when was godudama a dimension buster? Last I checked that only applies to kaguya's godudama since it's a trillion times bigger than madara's (or anyone else's 4 that matter)
please prove that his limbo CLONE(can't stress that enough it's only 1) cant funtion for extended periods of time in kamui land.
-explains how kakashi stops madara's kamui use.
-gives benefit of doubt and explains why madaras abilities are useless in kamui land
still calls me deluded.
yes he did. He shunshin'shunshin ' off 9 his susanno and struck her with raikiri. Her being a entity capable of flight means had the means and ability to get out of the way. Which she did whenever it came to sasuke, and it most cases naruto.
Naruto shunshin'd off the floor and ripped her arm off
kakashi shunshin'd off his susanno and ripped through her arm.
it would be a blitz if she wasn't distracted by naruto and sasuke. But seeing as how she was it's more along the lines of a sneak attack. It's not a sneak attack for kakashi since.
a) she attacks first
b) no distractions were present.
that's how substitution jutsu works.
Didn't kakashi manage to turn around? Despite being fatigued? That's a physical reaction. So much for "instant speed". Sasuke, naruto, Kaguya and Kakashi must have speeds faster that instant according to u.
I'm pretty sure the comparison was only between sage modes. I'll have to recheck that. In truth it doesn't matter. V1 kaguya is faster than madara, that was getting blitzed left and right by sasuke and Naruto. Only naruto managed to land hits on v1 kaguya. Kakashi's blitzes v2 kaguya.
cute.
This is the third time I had to correct you. It's limbo CLONE
still can't touch kamui users when using intangibility, still can't get past ps.
fails to explain how it will get past ghost mode or ps.
failed to explain how clones use godudama, fails to explain how godudama works an entire dimension away when it stops working 70 ft/m away.
Yeah. I'm done.
Madara wins more times than not
Kakashi ain't beating nor seeing Limbo.
PS tears Madara apart.
But he isn't immortal. . .Because it's so logically that the immortal guy loses to someone with a five minute span of not even half his power?
not an assumption since it was all according to his plan. He cut through her arm so she couldn't use it. But he didn't sever it since it could grow back and be used as another sorce for bone spikes.Bad assumption with no proof, naruto did a good job in severing her arm.
Black Zetsu said otherwiseKakashi didn't, in fact it didn't do anything to her.
yet she couldn't use it for the remainder of the fight.It like a needle pricked her
it threatened his life didn't it?Still alive isn't he?
i don't see how absorbing the tree makes him immortal. . .On top of that he didn't absorb the shinjuu tree yet:
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yet he died.Completely immortal, that is what Kumai Madara is...
yet damage to his brain and chest threatened his life, by his own admission.An immortal that can live even if his lower body is cut off completely
superior chakra quantities, has chakra from every living being on earth. BZ Already stated that the more chakra she has the more powerful she becomesA) You don't know that
More like fact. Why would he aim it to her arm when every other time he used raikiri it's aimed to the heart?B) Your assumption
But it can't touch him...That's all he needs anyway
it was 1 at a time. Not 9 at once, so yet ps has superior durability than a biju.One limbo clone simultaneously took out nine bijuus, does ps have the durability of nine bijuus?
yet madara's unstable ps (not rikudo chakra enhanced) had to protect full kuramas from its own bijudama. Yet killer bee was 1 shotted by his own bijudama.Even one bijuus duribility>>>Perfect Susanoo
Didn't sasuke's weak ass chidori spear cut hachibi tentacles?Bijuus are a huge mass of chakra into a physical form,
kaguya's vacuum palm out powered naruto's chakra arms despite naruto having chakra form all the beasts.a ps that gets destroyed by Kaguya's vacuum palm
But it is. We saw how sasuke's ps crapped on naruto's chakra shroud.is not beating a bijuu.
Kakashi's ps is rikudo enhanced. Thus tsb or onmuden wouldn't effect him.Even a TSB will destroy PS or other various forms of omyoudon will erase it.
Where did I make that comparison I said they have more durability than biju. But the juubi's tails got cut through by Kurama's chakra, burned by ama, and restricted by hashirama. So please don't.Lol at you comparing PS to the power of the juubi.
obito dosen't have long range kamui and wasn't close to the gedo mazo when he did it. If he did what you proposed then it wouldn't matter since said ability passes over to kakashi. Thus giving him the ability to as u so nicely put" negate it by sending his own"No he did not cancel anything, he negated it by sending his own.
He can only do it to what he's aware of. He wasn't aware of the clone, the rasengan, or the raikiri kunai. As he stated after the techniques hit him.Otherwise he would of negated kakashi's kamui from sending naruto into dimensions.
it passes over, since he has Obito's kamui.Regardless, that's Obito's feat and not kakashi's.
You mean like he couldn't use intangibility? Oh wait he already did since all the kamui abilities pass over.So whatever you believe it to be, Kakashi can't use it.
yet you tried to give madara obito's feats, even though madara dosent even have obito's sharingan. Lmfao. I can'tFanfic justification holds no service in my eyes.
He already used obito's intangibility, used new abilities like kamui Shuriken and pulled out a ps. Somthing that can't be done without mastery over both eves. Now please prove that's it's limited to intangibility. I'll wait.If this fan fic were true then post a scan of Kakashi doing this (meaning not Obito)
Nowhere does it state that it dosen't. Since he already done more.Nowhere did the manga state he gets all of Obito's powers,
assumptions, based on the fact that he didn't need to do that.he can't sync/hack into other dimensions
already did it to the hachibi with 1 eye.or eject objects out from his eyes either.
what? This dosen't even make sense.Considering that the loudest speaker of Kakashi having Susanoo and not Obito, you should understand how this works.
U mean like the abilities you gave to madara?So hope off the hype train or fanfic train
used intangibility, still thinks there's no proof.Lies and no proof of this being stated.
yes.With this sentence here you have the balls to call me dense?
cute retortAre you really that senile?
So because you can stick them to whatever. ... it gives them the ability to use it? Lmfao.You can stick gudodama's to whoever you want:
So edo minato gained the ability to use obito's godudama? Lmaooooooooo1) Obito to Edo minato
Did the shadow clone show the ability to use or manipulate the godudama? Nope. And you call me senile.2) Naruto to his shadow clone
Sasuke himself stated that the range of his rinne shifting is increased when he has a target, and he shifted well over 70m with naruto's clone.None of this Kumai attack is more than 70m, unless you're telling me Sasuke used Amenote on sakura's ninja suit 70m away despite having a range?
What's instant? Kamui? Nope.Instant doesn't take a long period of time,
which would be canceled by kakashi. Or better yet get stranded in there.as soon as matter attacks he will send a limbo into dimensions.
Prove that it lasts 5 minutes. Cuz last I checked it has to return to the body well b4 5 minutes.At least his limbo clones last longer than five minutes if Kumai power
lol provide proof of godudama working in kamui land I'll wait.None were provided....
it was a blitz. Shreveport couldn't react fast enough to dodge and there wasn't any factors distracting her.There you go, it wasn't a blitz and that was the only time he hit here.
Naruto and sasuke distracted her. Now show me how Naoto and sasuke distracted her from kakashi I'll wait.Based off your understanding, Sakura blitz her too correct?
baseless assumptions since she couldn't use that arm.Still did nothing btw, she wasn't concentrating on the people without the seals, so that's already a big middle finger too.
Prove that he was free falling.He was free failing, no form of blitz happened whatsoever.
He sunshin'd off his susanno. And blitzed her.All he did was fall down while being intangible, that doesn't increase your speed.
Actually bz said she was stronger than ever.Black zetsu said she was running out of chakra fast.
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But he turned his head. Meaning tired as fck war ark kakashi PHYSICALLY reacted to madara.By the time Kakashi turned his head, Madara already took his eyes.
Lol. That's the wildest assumption I've ever seen in my life. Even worse is the fact that it's naruto talking to an enroute sasuke.Kakashi was the one that said it happened instantly too, the only reason why he turned was because they called his name before Madara got there:
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bz stated it.1) no proof Kaguya is faster
Show me the distractions required 4 him to "pull a Sakura"2) Kakashi didn't blitz anyone, he pulled a Sakura.
lolYes, kakashi's wasted remains is a delightful thing to see.
Limbo cant function in the kamui dimension for extended periods of time.Still have to correct...
Limbo cannot be seen, and will take him out once Madara sends it into dimensions.
fails to prove how...Limbo>>>PS, get that through your head already
nope.Are you retarded?
Power of juubi? We already saw what kamui Shuriken did to kaguya, we already know that once you're empowered by rikudo chakra, it dosen't matter.The power of the juubi will eradicate Susanoo.
he'd have to get the clone there. Then he'd have to bank on kakashi using intangibility b4 the clone becomes useless in kamui land.Madara has Kumai, kills Kakashi once he goes intangible with limbo clone
the two don't even correlate.Limbo >> five minutes
This fcking dumbass. The kamui dimension is over 70 meters away, it's a DIMENSION away. Thus godudama become useless in the kamui dimension.I don't think you know how to function...
Kumai overlaps the real world mr. Scatterbrain, nothing is 70m away.
yet sm susanno cut through obito,Only an idiot will believe PS can do a thing to a juubi let alone it's jinchuuriki.
How would Kakashi even land a hit on Madara? Actually, why can't Madara defend himself with his own PS? Juubidama blows PS apart.
*Delude*
Any logical person knows that there is nothing Kakashi can do to harm Madara.
Giving him MS would just be handing over kakashi's body to Madara.
No matter how many senerio you conjure up in your head, Madara can send a limbo clone or Gudodama into dimensions.
As soon as Madara decides to fight in the real world, any type of phasing Kakashi uses to evade will surely be a neg diff overkill Kakashi.
So if you really know the truth...
Kakashi should be the least thing that comes to mind in this match up
He landed a hit on kaguya. ...
last I checked he needs to summon the tree to use bijudama. That's easily taken care of via kamui shurikens, and it's up to debate whether he can use ps while being a jin.
But he isn't immortal. . .
not an assumption since it was all according to his plan. He cut through her arm so she couldn't use it. But he didn't sever it since it could grow back and be used as another sorce for bone spikes.
Black Zetsu said otherwise
yet she couldn't use it for the remainder of the fight.
it threatened his life didn't it?
He never said he was immortal until after
i don't see how absorbing the tree makes him immortal. . .
yet he died.
yet damage to his brain and chest threatened his life, by his own admission.
superior chakra quantities, has chakra from every living being on earth. BZ Already stated that the more chakra she has the more powerful she becomes
More like fact. Why would he aim it to her arm when every other time he used raikiri it's aimed to the heart?
But it can't touch him...
it was 1 at a time. Not 9 at once, so yet ps has superior durability than a biju.
yet madara's unstable ps (not rikudo chakra enhanced) had to protect full kuramas from its own bijudama. Yet killer bee was 1 shotted by his own bijudama.![]()
Didn't sasuke's weak ass chidori spear cut hachibi tentacles?
Didn't base minato cut through hachibi tentacles?
I could go on forever. They obviously have physical form or else they wouldn't be effected by things like kunai or chakra swords.
kaguya's vacuum palm out powered naruto's chakra arms despite naruto having chakra form all the beasts.
But it is. We saw how sasuke's ps crapped on naruto's chakra shroud.
Kakashi's ps is rikudo enhanced. Thus tsb or onmuden wouldn't effect him.
Where did I make that comparison I said they have more durability than biju. But the juubi's tails got cut through by Kurama's chakra, burned by ama, and restricted by hashirama. So please don't.
obito dosen't have long range kamui and wasn't close to the gedo mazo when he did it. If he did what you proposed then it wouldn't matter since said ability passes over to kakashi. Thus giving him the ability to as u so nicely put" negate it by sending his own"
He can only do it to what he's aware of. He wasn't aware of the clone, the rasengan, or the raikiri kunai. As he stated after the techniques hit him.
it passes over, since he has Obito's kamui.
You mean like he couldn't use intangibility? Oh wait he already did since all the kamui abilities pass over.
yet you tried to give madara obito's feats, even though madara dosent even have obito's sharingan. Lmfao. I can't
He already used obito's intangibility, used new abilities like kamui Shuriken and pulled out a ps. Somthing that can't be done without mastery over both eves. Now please prove that's it's limited to intangibility. I'll wait.
Nowhere does it state that it dosen't. Since he already done more.
assumptions, based on the fact that he didn't need to do that.
already did it to the hachibi with 1 eye.
what? This dosen't even make sense.
U mean like the abilities you gave to madara?
yes.
cute retort
So because you can stick them to whatever. ... it gives them the ability to use it? Lmfao.
So edo minato gained the ability to use obito's godudama? Lmaooooooooo
Did the shadow clone show the ability to use or manipulate the godudama? Nope. And you call me senile.
Sasuke himself stated that the range of his rinne shifting is increased when he has a target, and he shifted well over 70m with naruto's clone.
Love how you dodged the whole godudama busting dimensions question. Even by hype it's only forest buster. And it's useless in kamui land.
What's instant? Kamui? Nope.
which would be canceled by kakashi. Or better yet get stranded in there.
Prove that it lasts 5 minutes. Cuz last I checked it has to return to the body well b4 5 minutes.
lol provide proof of godudama working in kamui land I'll wait.
it was a blitz. Shreveport couldn't react fast enough to dodge and there wasn't any factors distracting her.
Naruto and sasuke distracted her. Now show me how Naoto and sasuke distracted her from kakashi I'll wait.
baseless assumptions since she couldn't use that arm.
Prove that he was free falling.
He sunshin'd off his susanno. And blitzed her.
Actually bz said she was stronger than ever.
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But he turned his head. Meaning tired as fck war ark kakashi PHYSICALLY reacted to madara.
Lol. That's the wildest assumption I've ever seen in my life. Even worse is the fact that it's naruto talking to an enroute sasuke.
bz stated it.
Show me the distractions required 4 him to "pull a Sakura"
Limbo cant function in the kamui dimension for extended periods of time.
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fails to prove how...
nope.
Power of juubi? We already saw what kamui Shuriken did to kaguya, we already know that once you're empowered by rikudo chakra, it dosen't matter.
he'd have to get the clone there. Then he'd have to bank on kakashi using intangibility b4 the clone becomes useless in kamui land.
the two don't even correlate.
This fcking dumbass. The kamui dimension is over 70 meters away, it's a DIMENSION away. Thus godudama become useless in the kamui dimension.
yet sm susanno cut through obito,
and chidori sharp spear cut madara in half.
This guy. Rikudo powered ps slashes cut his body faster than he can regenerate.
This
As much as I love Obito and obito related powers (DMS Kamui) I must say Madara wins this.
I rate anyone who tamed and fused with the juubi higher than any other, and this includes dms Obito/Kakashi sadly.
Madara 0 diff.
-Limbo one-shots him, as Kakashi has no means of seeing or detecting its presence.
-Madara senses Kamui's pressure build-up via Senjutsu, and either dodges it with Juubi's Jinchuuriki speed, or intercepts it with Kamui himself.
-Kamui-Shuriken ends up wrapping Yasaka Magatama.