[Theory] Kamui is Genjutsu

[Senju Bean]

Madara has Onmyoudon and can negate all ninjutsu.

However this happened.

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And this

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This begs the question? Is Kamui even ninjutsu?

Perhaps it was a genjutsu all along.

Izanagi is classified as a genjutsu that makes reality an illusion.

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What if Kamui does a similar thing?( i.e Yin/Yang release that reality warps) What if Kamui is merely a Genjutsu that makes the targeted object an illusion in the earthly reality. That partially explains why Obito is visible despite being phased in the Kamui dimension.

Obito was able to phase like a ghost, but if he is in the Kamui dimension, why is he visible in the earthly dimension? It's because the earthly shell is just an illusion.

 

[Rize]

Sure and so is susanoo

 

[Senpou]

Kamui is pure Ninjutsu from all the aspects of Manga.

 

[Limbo]

i hihly doubt it a genjutsu but still, nice evidence

 

[-immortal-]

Nope i cant bevliev

 

[Senju Bean]

Sure and so is susanoo

Susanoo has nothing to deal with illusions.

 

[Klad]

No . Kamui is called The Authority of Gods , maybe being a godly jutsu is the reason why it works on madara .

 

[Senju Bean]

Nope i cant bevliev

Going by feats, Izanagi would make us all believe that it is a ninjutsu. It's only after Obito stated that it is a genjutsu that made us believe it.

Kamui has many similar properties with Izangi.

 

[Allsymbolsparttwo]

kamui is a dojutsu, aka an eye technique, it's not a ninjutsu, it simply creates a unique and specialised form of space–time ninjutsu. but ultimately it's a dojutsu unique to only obito

 

[YellowFang]

Kamui is S/T tech and can't be subdued by Onmyodon...

 

[Senju Bean]

No . Kamui is called The Authority of Gods , maybe being a godly jutsu is the reason why it works on madara .

No ninjutsu can work against Onmyoudon.

Therefore Kamui isn't ninjutsu.

 

[Senju Bean]

Kamui is S/T tech and can't be subdued by Onmyodon...

Onmyoudon by definition erases all ninjutsu.

 

[Rize]

Going by feats, Izanagi would make us all believe that it is a ninjutsu. It's only after Obito stated that it is a genjutsu that made us believe it.

Kamui has many similar properties with Izangi.

*heavy sarcasm*

 

[Senju Bean]

kamui is a dojutsu, aka an eye technique, it's not a ninjutsu, it simply creates a unique and specialised form of space–time ninjutsu. but ultimately it's a dojutsu unique to only obito

Dojutsu is just the eye. It's techs are either ninjutsu or genjutsu.

 

[Klad]

No ninjutsu can work against Onmyoudon.

Therefore Kamui isn't ninjutsu.

That's why I said Kamui is an exception . :|

 

[brownbear]

Fun theory......but I'm afraid kamui has been well explained at this point in the manga. No room for theorys at this point manga facts exist. Facts>theories

 

[Allsymbolsparttwo]

Dojutsu is just the eye. It's techs are either ninjutsu or genjutsu.

no, a kekkai genkai is the eye, a dojutsu is a jutsu that comes from one's eye instead of the normal ninjutsu which needs hands

 

[Senju Bean]

That's why I said Kamui is an exception . :|

If something is unaffected by gravity, we don't assume it to be an exception, we conclude it to have no mass.

If something is unaffected by electro magnetic force, we conclude it to have no charge/polorized charge instead of being an exception.

Laws are universal.

Similarly, if something works against Onmyoudon, we conclude it to not be a ninjutsu. Onmyoudon is like gravity in NV. Gravity affects all masses, Onmyoudon affects all ninjutsu.

Onmyoudon is universal because it came from GOD( aka Juubi)

 

[HadouKage]

That's why I said Kamui is an exception . :|

Explanation please?

 

[Sentinel]

Onmyoudon works by comming in contact with the jutsu, it cancels it and erases it. but that's the whole point of Kamui, obito's kamui doesn't alow anything to touch him. therefor Madara can not use the Onmyoudon tech to erase it.
also dojutsu can stil be erased, as evidenced by naruto and sasuke's attack on obito when he first optained the jinchuriky status. they threw an amaterasu infused FRS at him but it did nothing. and amaterasu is a dojutsu.
not sure if genjutsu would work or if it's even possible. genjutsu is manipulation of the chakra in the brain, it's not something you do by injecting your own chakra so I wonder if he could do it, or if he just has to much of it to manipulate