Kamui > Edo Madara and Hashirama??

[KingHashirama]

People have been saying the Kakashi can Kamui this and that. For example , Darui vs Kakashi.. Kakashi wins cause he can Kamui.. But if Kamui is what makes him win.. So he can beat Edo madara and Hashirama i assume??

Personally I think Hashirama and Madara have techniques to make the Kamui useless against them. I really do hope Kishimoto Explains how to counter Kamui besides speed. Cause at the current.. Kamui > Anyone without s/t jutsu or fast speed.

But I'm gonna say that Hashirama and Madara probably have some techniques to counter Kamui. What do you think?

 

[-Logic-]

Kamui can be absorbed by Preta. EVEN IF Kakashi uses Kamui quickly Hashi will still have time to create wood to protect him. Madara was able to create a forest in an INSTANT and he's not even the originator of the KG. Hashi's must be MUCH faster.

 

[KingHashirama]

Kamui can be absorbed by Preta. EVEN IF Kakashi uses Kamui quickly Hashi will still have time to create wood to protect him. Madara was able to create a forest in an INSTANT and he's not even the originator of the KG. Hashi's must be MUCH faster.

true true. BUT Kamui teleports anything its focused on. But yea I see the point of what your saying.. But it still leaves people like Tsunade and them vulnerable and weak.

 

[Bogard]

Kakashi and Tobi use the same technique, so if Tobi can kamui everyone, i don't see why Kakashi can't also if they have the possibility

 

[spokentruth]

Kamui can be absorbed by Preta. EVEN IF Kakashi uses Kamui quickly Hashi will still have time to create wood to protect him. Madara was able to create a forest in an INSTANT and he's not even the originator of the KG. Hashi's must be MUCH faster.

Flawed once cought in Kamui he can not use hands signs he kamui sasuke's arrow less than a sec he' will beat Hashirama and Madara both 2 Kamui and its over

 

[CharlieBundels]

Kakashi would be Kamuing wood all day. Hashi would finish him.

 

[CharlieBundels]

Flawed once cought in Kamui he can not use hands signs he kamui sasuke's arrow less than a sec he' will beat Hashirama and Madara both 2 Kamui and its over

Idiot, with that logic

Kakashi>SO6P

 

[Ldude]

Kakashi and Tobi use the same technique, so if Tobi can kamui everyone, i don't see why Kakashi can't also if they have the possibility

Yeah... Good point, HOWEVER, there are probably counters he hasn't explained yet, otherwise Kakashi would go on a rampage, which he hasn't. In fact, Kakashi's dying as of now from lack of chakra.

 

[Sexy Steel]

Hashi has ways of fighting ms users
maybe wood clones or something but he definitely has ways of dealing with ms (remember only Madara could spot differences between hashi's clones)

 

[spokentruth]

Idiot, with that logic

Kakashi>SO6P

Nope because he cant Kamui Tobi and im pretty sure so6p and some s/t Techs so he could Stop Kamui is way 2 fast 4 hashirama wood style gtfoh Hashirama is all hype lost to old hiruzen in edo form with help from his brother and orochimaru

 

[Bogard]

Yeah... Good point, HOWEVER, there are probably counters he hasn't explained yet, otherwise Kakashi would go on a rampage, which he hasn't. In fact, Kakashi's dying as of now from lack of chakra.

Problem is that Kakashi can't use a lot of Kamuis like Tobi. So for this reason, he only use it if he has no choice or if he really wants to end the fight really quickly. In fact, against Gedo Mazo he said that "he has never heard of someone who could stop Kamui":

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So unless Kishi creates a counter later, this technique is really overpowered

 

[Sexy Steel]

Nope because he cant Kamui Tobi and im pretty sure so6p and some s/t Techs so he could Stop Kamui is way 2 fast 4 hashirama wood style gtfoh Hashirama is all hype lost to old hiruzen in edo form with help from his brother and orochimaru

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[spokentruth]

Hashi has ways of fighting ms users
maybe wood clones or something but he definitely has ways of dealing with ms (remember only Madara could spot differences between hashi's clones)

So he Never went up against a s/t user Thats a fact

 

[Sexy Steel]

So he Never went up against a s/t user Thats a fact

He can't spot the difference between the clones also a fact

 

[CharlieBundels]

Nope because he cant Kamui Tobi and im pretty sure so6p and some s/t Techs so he could Stop Kamui is way 2 fast 4 hashirama wood style gtfoh Hashirama is all hype lost to old hiruzen in edo form with help from his brother and orochimaru

Please speak english and rephrase that..

 

[KingHashirama]

Nope because he cant Kamui Tobi and im pretty sure so6p and some s/t Techs so he could Stop Kamui is way 2 fast 4 hashirama wood style gtfoh Hashirama is all hype lost to old hiruzen in edo form with help from his brother and orochimaru

A controlled Hashirama .... with no brain of his own.. and not using most of the techniques shown by madara....is obviously not shown powerful.. Last time I checked Tobirama and Hashirama got sealed like bosses. =].

So he Never went up against a s/t user Thats a fact

His brother was a S/T user.

 

[Sexy Steel]

Problem is that Kakashi can't use a lot of Kamuis like Tobi. So for this reason, he only use it if he has no choice or if he really wants to end the fight really quickly. In fact, against Gedo Mazo he said that "he has never heard of someone who could stop Kamui":

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So unless Kishi creates a counter later, this technique is really overpowered

Clones are a counter
given kakashi's limited chakra he has NO choice but to take limited and random guesses

But we both know kakashi doesn't play like that therefore kamui won't be used right off the bat. And without kamui been used kakashi is toast.

 

[VongolaX]

kamui cant win this one

 

[Bogard]

Clones are a counter
given kakashi's limited chakra he has NO choice but to take limited guesses

But we both know kakashi doesn't play like that therefore kamui won't be used right off the bat. And without kamui been used kakashi is toast.

Of course clones is a counter like it can counter every technique, but i was actually talking about a 1vs1 condition, and even if the opponent knows to use clones, if he has no knowledge about Kamui, don't see why he would use clones from the start, and in this condition, he can be kamuid

 

[Sexy Steel]

Of course clones is a counter like it can counter every technique, but i was actually talking about a 1vs1 condition, and even if the opponent knows to use clones, if he has no knowledge about Kamui, don't see why he would use clones from the start, and in this condition, he can be kamuid

Ok I see ur point

If the person has no knowledge they would be kamui'd well I guess you do have a point :shrug: