[Theory] Kamui can be Absorbed

[Senju Bean]

How would it even absorb Kamui? If the user gets too close, they'll get warped.[SUB] You must be registered for see images [/SUB]

The whirlpool just pulls it in.


Think of the preta whirlpool as a blackhole against all that classifies as Justu.


It is not a joke like Kisimes chakra absorbsion.

It is literally a blackhole specifically designed for jutsu and chakra only can acts as a black hole against these entities.

 

[Joon]

Who said. The whirlpool is endless and can absorb all jutsu as the databook says.


Nothing indicates that this whirlpool cannot trap a dimensional door, which is an actual thing the last I check.

WTF is this whirlpool? Last I check it was a metaphor describing the Jutsu.

Also, it was evident that when Preta Path used the Absorption Technique, he made physical contact. Thus, to absorb the dimensional door, he would have to touch it which is physically impossible.

 

[Senju Bean]

It's not easy to explain, I have the concept in my head but I can't articulate it. It can't absorb the hole because the hole itself isn't made of chakra essentially. The hole is created using chakra, and sustained using chakra, but the hole itself isn't made of chakra. It can remove the chakra controlling and keeping the hole open, causing it to close.

You are thinking of it too much like Kisimes and Hashi's absorbtion.


It is completely different and on another level. It literally send it to another location in an endless whirlpool.


It is like a blackhole against Jutsu.

as the databook strongly suggests.

 

[Punk Hazard]

The whirlpool just pulls it in.


Think of the preta whirlpool as a blackhole against all that classifies as Justu.


It is not a joke like Kisimes chakra absorbsion.

It is literally a blackhole specifically designed for jutsu and chakra only can acts as a black hole against these entities.

Preta Path actually works only on ninjutsu.

 

[Gerkak]

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[Mypower]

Senju Bean did you read my explanation yet ? It's like you're avoiding my point cause you know I'm right.

 

[Senju Bean]

WTF is this whirlpool? Last I check it was a metaphor describing the Jutsu.

Also, it was evident that when Preta Path used the Absorption Technique, he made physical contact. Thus, to absorb the dimensional door, he would have to touch it which is physically impossible.

No physical contact needed.


Just a barrier is opened around the user and any justu that enters within this barieer will be sent to the whirlpool.


Look at the barrier

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Do you see preta path using its hands to touch it?

 

[Punk Hazard]

You are thinking of it too much like Kisimes and Hashi's absorbtion.


It is completely different and on another level. It literally send it to another location in an endless whirlpool.


It is like a blackhole against Jutsu.

as the databook strongly suggests.

You should stop relying on the Databook so heavily. It also says Kakashi can cut lightning bolts, Susano'o requires Tsukiyomi and Amaterasu, and that Madara's Ranton can't be dodged by any opponent, the same one Naruto dodged.

 

[Mypower]

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I forgot about that. The databook even states that no tech can defend itself from it. Meaning Kamui has no weakness.

 

[Senju Bean]

How is Preta going to negate a spacetime anomally? A mini vortex/wormhole? Its like Preta denying gravity (Shinra Tensei)

What I can see denying Kamui is Shinra Tensei since its gravity it could make the Kamui vortex collapse or even redirect it to the user but how is going a sealing tech, seal spacetime itself? Its as dumb as a seal sealing gravity.

Now assuming Kamui works by gathering chakra in the spot to rip timespace then Preta could absorb the chakra before it builds to the point it can rip spacetime but once the vortex is open then no, unless it actually use chakra not only to open but to mantain itself.

If you considered the speed feats of Kamui up till the last chapter, you'd realize this debate is pointless. The only chance for any of Rinnegan's 6 paths to stop Kamui is to use their abilities preemptively before Kamui is used. Let's say we accept the baseless assumption that kamui can be absorbed by preta, preta would need to be kept active all the time for it to intercept Kamui. It has already been proven that preta's absorption is not a passive skill, so keeping it casted the whole time is impractical . So whether Preta can or cannot absorb Kamui does not matter. Kamui will own preta path any day.

As if Kamui is faster than the preta barrier that can be projected. It's all based on individual skill. Maybe Nagato can't active it fast enough sure. But what about a more skilled master of Rinnegan, like Hagoromo?

Why would it not move the rip in spacetime to another location?

In real life, A blackhole can also move and be pulled by force fields.

So why can't a power that is described by Kishi himself to be an endless whirlpool pull a dimensional rip into it.


Since we are arguing by real life physics, I will tell you, a black hole can be moved.

 

[Punk Hazard]

Look at Senju Bean, ignoring arguments that show why he's wrong.

 

[Gerkak]

As if Kamui is faster than the preta barrier that can be projected. It's all based on individual skill. Maybe Nagato can't active it fast enough sure. But what about a more skilled master of Rinnegan, like Hagoromo?

Why would it not move the rip in spacetime to another location?

In real life, A blackhole can also move and be pulled by force fields.

So why can't a power that is described by Kishi himself to be an endless whirlpool pull a dimensional rip into it.


Since we are arguing by real life physics, I will tell you, a black hole can be moved.

No such thing as an endless whirlpool. Preta path is limited by the user's own chakra reserves. If it was an endless whirlpool it would not have been overwhelmed by naruto's nature energy.

Preta path is a barrier ninjutsu which have been proven time and time again are useless against space time techniques.

Space is something that surrounds and encompasses everything. There is nothing anyone can do against a space time technique except using another space time technique to counter it.

 

[Senju Bean]

You should stop relying on the Databook so heavily. It also says Kakashi can cut lightning bolts, Susano'o requires Tsukiyomi and Amaterasu, and that Madara's Ranton can't be dodged by any opponent, the same one Naruto dodged.

Hype is where hype is due.

Rinnegan is from the S06P and of course can live up the the hype.

It is completely different from Kakashi's Raikari so there is no comparison.


The Rinnegan is extremely legendary in power on and is responsible for reshaping the world much like the Fruit.


It is an eye connected to the gods.


An eye that transformed the world, and you expect that it is reduced to Kisime's style of absorbtion?


Do you really believe that?

 

[Punk Hazard]

Hype is where hype is due.

Rinnegan is from the S06P and of course can live up the the hype.

It is completely different from Kakashi's Raikari so there is no comparison.


The Rinnegan is extremely legendary in power on and is responsible for reshaping the world much like the Fruit.


It is an eye connected to the gods.


And eye that transformed the world, and you expect that it is reduced to Kisime's style of absorbtion?


Do you really believe that?

Please just stop now.

 

[Joon]

No physical contact needed.


Just a barrier is opened around the user and any justu that enters within this barieer will be sent to the whirlpool.


Look at the barrier

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Do you see preta path using its hands to touch it?

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I was thinking when Preta Path captured Naruto when he was empowered by Sage Mode or Edo Nagato absorbing Killer Bee's chakra, returning back to his lively form or Preta Path absorbing Jiraiya's combine Jutsu, when entering Sage Mode with Ma and Pa. The barrier thing sorta slipped my mind. However, it still does not stray from my point being he was in direct contact.

 

[Senju Bean]

No such thing as an endless whirlpool. Preta path is limited by the user's own chakra reserves. If it was an endless whirlpool it would not have been overwhelmed by naruto's nature energy.

Preta path is a barrier ninjutsu which have been proven time and time again are useless against space time techniques.

Space is something that surrounds and encompasses everything. There is nothing anyone can do against a space time technique except using another space time technique to counter it.

No proof that it fails against Kamui. None at all.


The Eye that spawned the origin of Jutsu can surely do something about Kamui.


It is one of those things that does live up to databook hype.

 

[Punk Hazard]

No proof that it fails against Kamui. None at all.


The Eye that spawned the origin of Jutsu can surely do something about Kamui.


It is one of those things that does live up to databook hype.

The Databook, the very thing you are using, also declares there is no defense against Kamui. I can just as easily say it's also one of those things that live up to the hype.

 

[Senju Bean]

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I was thinking when Preta Path captured Naruto when he was empowered by Sage Mode or Edo Nagato absorbing Killer Bee's chakra, returning back to his lively form or Preta Path absorbing Jiraiya's combine Jutsu, when entering Sage Mode with Ma and Pa. The barrier thing sorta slipped my mind. However, it still does not stray from my point being he was in direct contact.

Great. This means that even if the Rinnegan user is too slow to pull up the barrier, the barrier can absorb after the fact.


This doesn't really prove that contact is needed however, just that preta was too slow to react. Nagato wasn't the orignal user afterall

 

[Senju Bean]

The Databook, the very thing you are using, also declares there is no defense against Kamui. I can just as easily say it's also one of those things that live up to the hype.

Did Kamui belonged to a god?


Was it tauted as being the eye that brought fourth the current world?

 

[Mypower]

Look at Senju Bean, ignoring arguments that show why he's wrong.

It's pointless. He hasn't refuted our argument. He knows were right.