Kakuzu vs Danzo

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You're right, he doesn't know he would be cursed with no prior intel. If he was caught with all hearts in his body (beginning of fight) he might lose if danzo could finish him off quickly. If they are already separate, The other hearts would interfere and protect Kakuzu, they would not just sit idly by if he was paralyzed so danzo would need to fight them. The seal is also breakable, sasuke broke out with his chakra. Meaning that while Danzo is being held off by the other hearts for a short duration, Kakuzu could break free. this is written in the fourth databook:

Similar to the Cursed Tongue Eradication Seal, this seal can also be applied during combat, and can secretly be placed on the opponent's body. When the user activates it, the curse seal's marks spread around the opponent's body, paralysing them. However, one can break free from the seal with a strong enough release of chakra.

This seal is not an instant win for Danzo vs an opponent like Kakuzu because of his ability to have 4 other bodies to defend the main one.
Doesn't matter if they interfere, because Izanagi+Fuuton lets him obliterate each and every one, nor can they counter Baku-Fuuton. Sasuke>>>Kakuzu, so there is really no merit in you attempting to use Sasuke breaking out as evidence that Kakuzu does. Though I literally just addressed that in the last post so I have no idea why you thought you could get away with mentioning it.
 

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Kakuzu's hearts can break him outta the seal , kakuzu can also counter the sharingan with his hearts which are mind-less and spirit-less creatures , which are necessary for koto-amatsukami to work .
Even kakuzu doesn't have a mind , the DB says the black threads have a "mind of thier own" as the other four hearts including his own body are a compilation of those threads . Kakuzu also has better speed and stamina than pathetic danzo's reserves even with all his wood cell implantations .

Kakuzu takes this mid diff at best .
 

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Kakuzu's hearts can break him outta the seal , kakuzu can also counter the sharingan with his hearts which are mind-less and spirit-less creatures , which are necessary for koto-amatsukami to work .
Even kakuzu doesn't have a mind , the DB says the black threads have a "mind of thier own" as the other four hearts including his own body are a compilation of those threads . Kakuzu also has better speed and stamina than pathetic danzo's reserves even with all his wood cell implantations .

Kakuzu takes this mid diff at best .
Imagine being delusional enough to think that Kakuzu's fodder hearts can break him out of a seal that Sasuke needed V3 Susanoo to break out of. Danzo butt rapes him.
 

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Imagine being delusional enough to think that Kakuzu's fodder hearts can break him out of a seal that Sasuke needed V3 Susanoo to break out of. Danzo butt rapes him.
Well kakuzu's hearts arent fodder as you think . The earth heart alone destroyed the fire temple gate which was impenetrable before . Five hearts are more than enough to break out of the seal . Susanoo was sasuke's partner which helped him break out, while kakuzu's partner are the five hearts .
Also the tendrils will pierce through danzo's body really quick as even kakashi was caught by it . Who is far faster than danzo
 

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Well kakuzu's hearts arent fodder as you think . The earth heart alone destroyed the fire temple gate which was impenetrable before . Five hearts are more than enough to break out of the seal . Susanoo was sasuke's partner which helped him break out, while kakuzu's partner are the five hearts .
Also the tendrils will pierce through danzo's body really quick as even kakashi was caught by it . Who is far faster than danzo
Wrong. This isn't Genjutsu. Either you show us where Kakuzu's chakra has strength comparable to Sasuke's or he fails to break the seal. Simple as that. The rest is irrelevant because of Izanagi.
 

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Wrong. This isn't Genjutsu. Either you show us where Kakuzu's chakra has strength comparable to Sasuke's or he fails to break the seal. Simple as that. The rest is irrelevant because of Izanagi.
Well you seem to be mistaking susanoo for chakra .
Nowhere was it said susanoo was chakra except in the error filled wiki . Susanoo is a guardian deity summoned by the user who has completely mastered the working of heaven and earth which are the both eyes of MS . Susanoo is a parther of MS User as onoki stated " that monster's chakra has finally stabilized " which means susanoo has chakra and it itself is not chakra . Kakuzu has the five hearts to break him out . We have seen partners help breaking seals before , like the kyuubi broke the green necklace of Shodai hokage from naruto to unleash its power.
 

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Well you seem to be mistaking susanoo for chakra .
Nowhere was it said susanoo was chakra except in the error filled wiki . Susanoo is a guardian deity summoned by the user who has completely mastered the working of heaven and earth which are the both eyes of MS . Susanoo is a parther of MS User as onoki stated " that monster's chakra has finally stabilized " which means susanoo has chakra and it itself is not chakra . Kakuzu has the five hearts to break him out . We have seen partners help breaking seals before , like the kyuubi broke the green necklace of Shodai hokage from naruto to unleash its power.
It is blatantly shown to be chakra. So unless you have a scan that disagrees there's no reason for me to take this assertion of yours seriously. The data book states a strong enough release of chakra is what can break the seal. Prove Kakuzus chakra is on par with v3 Susanoo Sasukes or you don't have a point.
 

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It is blatantly shown to be chakra. So unless you have a scan that disagrees there's no reason for me to take this assertion of yours seriously. The data book states a strong enough release of chakra is what can break the seal. Prove Kakuzus chakra is on par with v3 Susanoo Sasukes or you don't have a point.
Susanoo roared . It can weave hand seals . It can listen to orders as madara said " Now stabilize" to susanoo and it obeyed . It can hold weapons . It was never absorbed . Kaguya melted , didnt absorb . Nagato who absorbed killer B chakra didnt absorb it . Rasengan is known as the ultimate form of chakra shape manipulation . Why is susanoo not considered shape manipulation if its just chakra?
Has chakra ever hurt the user's cells when used to perform ninjutsu or genjutsu ? Nope . Chakra never hurts the cells when used .
 

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how hard is it to understand susanoo is chakra when databook has already said that

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nor does it take rocket science to understand its chakra
 

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Susanoo roared . It can weave hand seals . It can listen to orders as madara said " Now stabilize" to susanoo and it obeyed . It can hold weapons . It was never absorbed . Kaguya melted , didnt absorb . Nagato who absorbed killer B chakra didnt absorb it . Rasengan is known as the ultimate form of chakra shape manipulation . Why is susanoo not considered shape manipulation if its just chakra?
Has chakra ever hurt the user's cells when used to perform ninjutsu or genjutsu ? Nope . Chakra never hurts the cells when used .
Doesn't matter. Don't care. It is chakra until you show me a scan that actually states it isn't and not these ridiculous ass theories.
 

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Doesn't matter. Don't care. It is chakra until you show me a scan that actually states it isn't and not these ridiculous ass theories.
In the above databook it states susanoo is the strength of the tempestous force which has a rampaging soul . Chakra dont have a soul . And that chakra takes the physical form is translation error as chakra doesnt have a soul , secondly , susanoo is not considered shape manipulation , thirdly , kirin was stated to a chakra beast when sasuke himself stated he is out of chakra . How can he shape a dragon of chakra without chakra ? Same case with susanoo , in the manga , it was also never stated to be " ninjutsu" just " jutsu" .
 

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In the above databook it states susanoo is the strength of the tempestous force which has a rampaging soul . Chakra dont have a soul . And that chakra takes the physical form is translation error as chakra doesnt have a soul , secondly , susanoo is not considered shape manipulation , thirdly , kirin was stated to a chakra beast when sasuke himself stated he is out of chakra . How can he shape a dragon of chakra without chakra ? Same case with susanoo , in the manga , it was also never stated to be " ninjutsu" just " jutsu" .
In the databook above it states that it's chakra. End of story. In the Manga its shown that Susanoo is chakra. End of story. DB's entry for Danzo's Curse Mark says that it can be broken with a strong enough release of chakra, which is how Sasuke broke it. End of story.

Show me a scan or stop quoting me. I don't care about your theories or conjecture.
 

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In the above databook it states susanoo is the strength of the tempestous force which has a rampaging soul . Chakra dont have a soul . And that chakra takes the physical form is translation error as chakra doesnt have a soul , secondly , susanoo is not considered shape manipulation , thirdly , kirin was stated to a chakra beast when sasuke himself stated he is out of chakra . How can he shape a dragon of chakra without chakra ? Same case with susanoo , in the manga , it was also never stated to be " ninjutsu" just " jutsu" .
@bold what a troll
@undetline yeah do tell us where
 

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In the databook above it states that it's chakra. End of story. In the Manga its shown that Susanoo is chakra. End of story. DB's entry for Danzo's Curse Mark says that it can be broken with a strong enough release of chakra, which is how Sasuke broke it. End of story.

Show me a scan or stop quoting me. I don't care about your theories or conjecture.
Ever heard of mistranslations ? Well why dont you prove susanoo is chakra except from what's written in the databook . Chakra is proven to be simply energy . Not a roaring sentient being . Well to thicken my argument here is another piece of evidence :



Kyuubi saying sasuke is the next vessel for susanoo



Onoki saying susanoo's chakra has stabilized .
 

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Ever heard of mistranslations ? Well why dont you prove susanoo is chakra except from what's written in the databook . Chakra is proven to be simply energy . Not a roaring sentient being . Well to thicken my argument here is another piece of evidence :



Kyuubi saying sasuke is the next vessel for susanoo



Onoki saying susanoo's chakra has stabilized .
I don't care if you think it's a mistranslation unless you can prove that it is. What's even worse is that VIZ translated those themselves. Susanoo is chakra. Susanoo is stated and shown to be chakra in the Manga and the databook. End of story. Don't quote me again.
 

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Futton Koumu no Jutsu

Without exception everything exposed to the boil vapor will melt.

The Jutsu is vomited from the mouth like breath, it causes skin, flesh, and blood, to melt. The body melts due to it possessing a powerful acid property. Chakra defense are melted and nullified. In the face of it's power Sasuke's absolute defense Susano'o could not bare it, and it's chakra defense melted.

The walls don't, but the body and sturdy chakra armor melt.
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I don't care if you think it's a mistranslation unless you can prove that it is. What's even worse is that VIZ translated those themselves. Susanoo is chakra. Susanoo is stated and shown to be chakra in the Manga and the databook. End of story. Don't quote me again.
Look? You said you wanted manga proof . And I gave it , stating how susanoo is not chakra . Two instances .

Blaze@ Go to elementary and cry your eyes out with some wawa kids Lmao .
 

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no rebuttal oh wait how would you when its blatantly stated to be chakra
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Yup no rebuttals to idiots . You wouldn't understand it any ways with that pathetic brain capacity of yours .

P.S . Databooks have translation errors . The one you send was fan translation , also viz translations have a lot of errors , look it up .

Sasuke said " I've no chakra " and summons kirin .

Data book - Chakra takes the form of a dragon Lmfao
Like isn't it obvious wtf ? Show me an instance where chakra can weave hand signs , then'll concede .
 
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