Kakuzu vs 3 tomoe Madara

[Manda II]

Distance: 45m
Restriction: Kurama


Who wins?

 

[Brother Numpsay]

Kakuzu wins high diff, due to Madara's physical stats being completely superior.

Edit: Then again Madara using Shadow Clone may give him the victory also

 

[Lord Tywin]

Domu tanks
Gian one shots

 

[Passerby]

Juubi size Katon gg

 

[Zexion~]

Domu > Katon

Pretty sure Madara's fan thing still gives him the win though.

 

[Curse Mark]

Madara takes.

 

[KidGamer65]

Madara kills him.

 

[Blunt]

Madara.

 

[Itachi san88]

Lol people think that Madara is just perfect Susanoo :sdo:

Read the manga boys, Madara wins mid diff

 

[HENI]

Madara wins neg diff

 

[AlphaMaleLion]

Madara wins easily

 

[Zexion~]

How exactly does he win easily? :lol

 

[Imperious]

WHAT HAVE YOU DONE!? ARE YOU A MAD MAN!? Now Domu wankers and Madara fanboys are about to battle it out! Run for your life! :sniff::T_T::WHAT::WAT::NO::nuts: ​

Madara kills him.

Madara wins easily

Madara wins neg diff

Madara.

:dead:

Domu tanks

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

Genjutsu brings Kakuzu to heel. Any heart outside of Kakuzu's main body is then destroyed with a katon the size of battlefields.

 

[Gold Lightning]

I remember when kakashi used to use sharingan genjutsu back in part 1. Uses it against no one in part 2 :| could have been useful against kakuzu

 

[Brother Numpsay]

Genjutsu brings Kakuzu to heel.

It was stated that Kakuzu's hearts can act as a separate organism. I dont see why he can't use partner method when switching around chakra natures from different hearts.

Any heart outside of Kakuzu's main body is then destroyed with a katon the size of battlefields.

They bury underground. And honestly block it by superior Katon (because of Futon).

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

It was stated that Kakuzu's hearts can act as a separate organism. I dont see why he can't use partner method when switching around chakra natures from different hearts.

Operating under the conclusion that Kakuzu will immediately recognize he's in a genjutsu, and the partner method by switching hearts? They should all be active inside of him, I don't see where a switching would occur unless you're talking about one entering or exiting.

They bury underground. And honestly block it by superior Katon (because of Futon).

They are far from that fast, nor is Kakuzu's own katon near as quick as Madara's. If anything, the fuuton would likely come into contact with Madara's own before either being completely consumed or before Kakuzu's has much time to spread.

 

[Brother Numpsay]

Operating under the conclusion that Kakuzu will immediately recognize he's in a genjutsu, and the partner method by switching hearts? They should all be active inside of him, I don't see where a switching would occur unless you're talking about one entering or exiting.

The only Sharingan genjutsu, skillful enough to put you in 1 undetected was Itachi and Shisui. Also the Mask can act independently, and always reacts to Kakuzu in danger. If anything Kakuzu gives them commands before hand. "If you ever see me freeze, break me out". @Bold either is effective. He just needs 1 to do it.

They are far from that fast, nor is Kakuzu's own katon near as quick as Madara's. If anything, the fuuton would likely come into contact with Madara's own before either being completely consumed or before Kakuzu's has much time to spread.

They are fast enough for even SA to react to Madara's Katon. So its not a problem when it comes to ninjutsu clash battles.
Nah Futon we canonically seen that Futon and Katon connects with no time lag.

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

The only Sharingan genjutsu, skillful enough to put you in 1 undetected was Itachi and Shisui. Also the Mask can act independently, and always reacts to Kakuzu in danger. If anything Kakuzu gives them commands before hand. "If you ever see me freeze, break me out". @Bold either is effective. He just needs 1 to do it.

Except Sasuke, who put another sharingan user and arguably one of the most knowledgeable shinobi on Uchiha in a genjutsu without him realizing it. Having a heart escape is at best a momentary solution, a single heart possess no threat to Madara and Kakuzu is still suseptable to another Genjutsu. At best, this makes it a cat and mouse game until Kakuzu's out of hearts.

They are fast enough for even SA to react to Madara's Katon. So its not a problem when it comes to ninjutsu clash battles.
Nah Futon we canonically seen that Futon and Katon connects with no time lag.

You'll have a katon that travels this distance in two panels spawn within twenty meters of Kakuzu [

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]. The time difference needed for Kakuzu's jutsu to grow is vastly inferior to what Madara would use. Legit worst case scenario, Shadow clones provide support from the flanks to fully engulf Kakuzu and any hearts out.

If the hearts are connected, sure they will. I was initially under the assumption they would be working independently, though.

 

[Brother Numpsay]

Except Sasuke, who put another sharingan user and arguably one of the most knowledgeable shinobi on Uchiha in a genjutsu without him realizing it. Having a heart escape is at best a momentary solution, a single heart possess no threat to Madara and Kakuzu is still suseptable to another Genjutsu. At best, this makes it a cat and mouse game until Kakuzu's out of hearts.

@Bold Is that part talking about Danzo or someone else. Because Shisui's eye wasnt ready yet. @Underline, dont think thats irrelevant. It was clearly stated to be a weak genjutsu that needed to be used at the right time. Its only use was to fool the opponent momentarily, into think its not genjutsu. As Danzo always check his Izanagi time and his arrogance led to his demised.

@Bold I think there was a mis understanding here. I clearly meant Hearts usage being used to partner method Kakuzu. Not fighting here in this context.

You'll have a katon that travels this distance in two panels spawn within twenty meters of Kakuzu [

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]. The time difference needed for Kakuzu's jutsu to grow is vastly inferior to what Madara would use. Legit worst case scenario, Shadow clones provide support from the flanks to fully engulf Kakuzu and any hearts out.

Thats not a fair comparison you have a jutsu with a start up like any Katon to a panel of Madara thats already pre-streamed. The speed is no different from this[

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@Bold and multiple bolts from Kakuzu comes in handy in that situation.

If the hearts are connected, sure they will. I was initially under the assumption they would be working independently, though.

Nah, in my scenario, fusing chakra nature for = merging, like canon usage.