[VS] Kakuzu > Tobirama

[Zexion~]

There is no need to take away a heart. The Mask with no feats is the featless Water Mask. Just give it Water feats.

Kakuzu carries 5 hearts. One of his own which is Earth. And 4 affinity.

What? No so you were wrong i suppose,

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He always has his own heart in there, meaning he can only have 4 additional hearts,

The "feat-less" mask which i assume you are refering to the one Kakashi took down is the earth mask that used Domu, hence why he didn't use it after it broke, lol

He has never had a water mask but it is very well plausible

 

[Brother Numpsay]

What? No so you were wrong i suppose,

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He always has his own heart in there, meaning he can only have 4 additional hearts,

The "feat-less" mask which i assume you are refering to the one Kakashi took down is the earth mask that used Domu, hence why he didn't use it after it broke, lol

He has never had a water mask but it is very well plausible

The 4 mask he has each carry a different element correct? That means one of the mask out of the 5 is his original.
In Edo arc he spited all four Mask to fight on their own. After that:

Shikaku Nara confirmed to Kotetsu Hagane and Izumo Kamizuki to keep Kakuzu at bay and counter his Earth Release.
If Kakuzu separated all his affinity and in Base, claimed by Shikaku to counter Earth means that his originality affinity is Earth, while the seperate mask each have their own affinity. The other 3 had confimed elements which leaves the last mask.

That mask was the one that took the blow from Kakashi's attack, Not Kakuzu's own.

 

[P3ĮÑ]

U know what they say, domu tanks all

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well AC told me

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[Zexion~]

The 4 mask he has each carry a different element correct? That means one of the mask out of the 5 is his original.
In Edo arc he spited all four Mask to fight on their own. After that:

Shikaku Nara confirmed to Kotetsu Hagane and Izumo Kamizuki to keep Kakuzu at bay and counter his Earth Release.
If Kakuzu separated all his affinity and in Base, claimed by Shikaku to counter Earth means that his originality affinity is Earth, while the seperate mask each have their own affinity. The other 3 had confimed elements which leaves the last mask.

That mask was the one that took the blow from Kakashi's attack, Not Kakuzu's own.

*sigh*

and Shikaku would know this because? he was just assuming that he was an earth style, Shikamaru probably told him about the jutsu yet left out the whole hearts situation meaning he figured he was merely a normal shinobi,

The heart Kakashi took was obviously the mask yes, but it was the earth one U_U Hence why he never used Domu in the fight afterwards, even when it would of helped U_U His Normal heart has no affinity that we know of my man, if it was than he would clearly of used more then one Doton

 

[pateuvasiliu]

U know what they say, domu tanks all

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Domu is suicide against Tobirama, because it makes you heavier/slower, which means you get tagged.

Once he's tagged he lacks the speed to activate Domu in time before Tobirama slashes his head off.

 

[Brother Numpsay]

*sigh*

and Shikaku would know this because? he was just assuming that he was an earth style, Shikamaru probably told him about the jutsu yet left out the whole hearts situation meaning he figured he was merely a normal shinobi,

The heart Kakashi took was obviously the mask yes, but it was the earth one U_U Hence why he never used Domu in the fight afterwards, even when it would of helped U_U His Normal heart has no affinity that we know of my man, if it was than he would clearly of used more then one Doton

Shikaku is one of the smartest characters in Naruto-verse. He didn't just assume all the intel he has gather, just to assume. Shikimaru nor Shinobi's will never leave out anything on intel that is a fact. Saying that claim is completely false, especially given the intel that he should already know, Kakuzu being an Akatsuki.

He also didn't use Lightening one replace his Orignal Heart, which was accidentally destroyed by Hidan.. That is not evidence to make that claim "because he stop using it after the mask was destroy by Kakashi". He never used it in the fight because he didn't need to (Where in the rest of the battle against Kakashi would of been useful to use Doton again, in the rest of his battle?). And second the context never claim that Kakuzu's own heart had no affinity. EVERY character that can mold chakra is Born with one. It also contradicts the statement that Kakuzu carries 5 hearts, that manipulates all 5 basic elements.

Kakuzu was born with Earth affinity, which was confirmed in War arc.
Earth Grudge is a forbidden tech that enables you to steal and use other elements. Only the Mask can use the different affinity. Which concludes: the last element it hasn't shown.

 

[pateuvasiliu]

Kakuzu's hearts aren't Kage level.

He's barely Kage level himself.

 

[Brother Numpsay]

Kakuzu's hearts aren't Kage level.

He's barely Kage level himself.

Ok we get it, you hate Kakuzu.

 

[Awkward Linguist]

According to Manga, Kakuzu is indeed a lot stronger and better/talented in battles compared to Tobirama.

 

[Princessu Kaaantchan]

Kakuzu's hearts aren't Kage level.

He's barely Kage level himself.

Not even remotely true.

 

[pateuvasiliu]

Ok we get it, you hate Kakuzu.

I said barely because he's low kage level.

 

[Princessu Kaaantchan]

I said barely because he's low kage level.

Which isn't the case; there's multiple Kage he can beat.

 

[pateuvasiliu]

Which isn't the case; there's multiple Kage he can beat.

And yet he's not mid kage level.

 

[Princessu Kaaantchan]

And yet he's not mid kage level.

You're being awful vague here, do elaborate.

 

[pateuvasiliu]

You're being awful vague here, do elaborate.

You can't put him in the same league with Onoki, Ay, Gaara. Those guys would destroy him.

He's Low-Mid kage at best. Somewhere in between.

 

[Princessu Kaaantchan]

You can't put him in the same league with Onoki, Ay, Gaara. Those guys would destroy him.

He's Low-Mid kage at best. Somewhere in between.

You can make an argument that he can manage against any single one of those guys.

 

[pateuvasiliu]

You can make an argument that he can manage against any single one of those guys.

Making an argument doesn't mean he can do it.

Proof won a part 1 Gaara vs Bee debate and we all know who wins.

Those 3 are well above Kakuzu.

 

[Princessu Kaaantchan]

Making an argument doesn't mean he can do it.

Proof won a part 1 Gaara vs Bee debate and we all know who wins.

Those 3 are well above Kakuzu.

Well I'm not arrogant enough to say that I'll be 100% correct.

It's all about the skill of the debator, who debated against proof?

Not necessarily.

 

[TheEvilOne]

Which isn't the case; there's multiple Kage he can beat.

Hiruzen, Mei and 4th Kazekage.

 

[Curse Mark]

Hiruzen, Mei and 4th Kazekage.

This. 10chaarrr