[VS] Kakuzu > Tobirama

[Princessu Kaaantchan]

Hiruzen, Mei and 4th Kazekage.

Tsunade, Gaara and Onoki and Ay at a stretch.

 

[Zexion~]

Shikaku is one of the smartest characters in Naruto-verse. He didn't just assume all the intel he has gather, just to assume. Shikimaru nor Shinobi's will never leave out anything on intel that is a fact. Saying that claim is completely false, especially given the intel that he should already know, Kakuzu being an Akatsuki.

He also didn't use Lightening one replace his Orignal Heart, which was accidentally destroyed by Hidan.. That is not evidence to make that claim "because he stop using it after the mask was destroy by Kakashi". He never used it in the fight because he didn't need to (Where in the rest of the battle against Kakashi would of been useful to use Doton again, in the rest of his battle?). And second the context never claim that Kakuzu's own heart had no affinity. EVERY character that can mold chakra is Born with one. It also contradicts the statement that Kakuzu carries 5 hearts, that manipulates all 5 basic elements.

Kakuzu was born with Earth affinity, which was confirmed in War arc.
Earth Grudge is a forbidden tech that enables you to steal and use other elements. Only the Mask can use the different affinity. Which concludes: the last element it hasn't shown.

Ahh true about the Raiton heart,

But the DB simply claims he can use the 5 elements, notice how it was in the EGF section as well, meaning that it is most likely ONLY due to EGF soo (unless its in his official Bio wouldn't know never read the DB) Also notice how Kakuzu's domu instantly fades away when Kakashi pierces his heart

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As for the rest, he could of used domu to amplify and enter CQC with much more deadly effect, yet he never even showed one sign of doing so,

Not to mention again if he had his own Earth Affinity, then he would of used other Doton as well, as not one character in the manga has only used one jutsu that belongs to their element, ....alright IMPORTANT character

 

[Brother Numpsay]

Ahh true about the Raiton heart,

But the DB simply claims he can use the 5 elements, notice how it was in the EGF section as well, meaning that it is most likely ONLY due to EGF soo (unless its in his official Bio wouldn't know never read the DB) Also notice how Kakuzu's domu instantly fades away when Kakashi pierces his heart

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Domu faded away because Kakuzu was dying lol.

As for the rest, he could of used domu to amplify and enter CQC with much more deadly effect, yet he never even showed one sign of doing so,

Why would do that. He already proven it wasn't necessary when he kick Kakashi in the chest. And then constantly pressured Kakashi to fight long range, because close range wasn't working.

Not to mention again if he had his own Earth Affinity, then he would of used other Doton as well, as not one character in the manga has only used one jutsu that belongs to their element, ....alright IMPORTANT character

Read what Shikaku said:

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the emphasis on the "S" with Techniques meaning more then one.
Kisihmoto just doesn't give a damn of Kakuzu's screen time so we go by what he applied.

 

[Zexion~]

Domu faded away because Kakuzu was dying lol.



Why would do that. He already proven it wasn't necessary when he kick Kakashi in the chest. And then constantly pressured Kakashi to fight long range, because close range wasn't working.



Read what Shikaku said:

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the emphasis on the "S" with Techniques meaning more then one.
Kisihmoto just doesn't give a damn of Kakuzu's screen time so we go by what he applied.

How would he know this is Kakuzu has only shown one technique that was earth style,

This basically proves it was merely an assumption

Also it wasn't even his main heart that was being destroyed, a.k.a he didn't actually die :| and if what your saying was true could of most likely kept it up due to that specific heart still being functional

 

[Oblivionx]

it's true that kakazu is strong and naruto beat him with plot no jutsu but tobirama ain't fodder either...! i'll give it to kakazu but extreme high diff...! he himself will be on death bed...! You can't just beat an ftg user you know....!

 

[Brother Numpsay]

How would he know this is Kakuzu has only shown one technique that was earth style,

This basically proves it was merely an assumption

Also it wasn't even his main heart that was being destroyed, a.k.a he didn't actually die :| and if what your saying was true could of most likely kept it up due to that specific heart still being functional

Back to square one.. I suggests go by what the manga implied. As Earth Grudge fear is a jutsu to that enables you to access the other 4 elements. Its not that hard to get.

Second I didnt understand the next sentence. I never said that his orignal heart was destroy by kakashi. I said the Mask took the blow. yea..

 

[EZQ]

What did Zex' make you do to say this? Kakuzu can't even handle base Naruto

Okay you went too far...

With CURRENT feats, Tobirama wins but high diff

 

[Zexion~]

Back to square one.. I suggests go by what the manga implied. As Earth Grudge fear is a jutsu to that enables you to access the other 4 elements. Its not that hard to get.

Second I didnt understand the next sentence. I never said that his orignal heart was destroy by kakashi. I said the Mask took the blow. yea..

But your trying to argue that the mask was a suiton affinity, so my question is ...why would the domu Immediately De-Activate, if the "water" Heart was destroyed?

I know he can use them, just not all at once,

 

[Gold Lightning]

Kakuzu fought Hashirama and lived soooo....