c'mon dude lets be real here.....
and you're clearly giving pointers for Kisame only Kakuzu has a lot of counters to most of what you posted...Daikodan is the biggest issue for Kakuzu though.
c'mon dude lets be real here.....
and you're clearly giving pointers for Kisame only Kakuzu has a lot of counters to most of what you posted...Daikodan is the biggest issue for Kakuzu though.
Quoted from wiki,
This technique is used to trap a victim inside a virtually inescapable sphere of water. The only downside to this technique is that the user must keep at least one arm inside the sphere at all times in order for the victim to remain imprisoned. This technique requires a sufficient amount of water, which can be provided by expelling it from one's mouth.[2] Once trapped the target is unable to move while within it due to the heaviness of the water. Because of the density of the water it can be used, to a limited extent, for defensive purposes if performed on oneself.[2] It can also be stored in scrolls as traps.[3]
Water clones can be used in preparation for the technique, which block an opponent's attack and trap the attacker in the prison using the clone's own water.[4] Neji Hyūga was able to use his ability to release chakra from all of his tenketsu simultaneously to disrupt the flow of chakra and break the prison.[5]
The only reason neji was able to break the technique and team 7 in part 1, was by disrupting the flow. It's unbreakable otherwise. What can also happen is that he can use his Shark Summons which stop hidan dead in his tracks.
Incorrect, my friend.
I shall begin with the bolded. Why would removing Hidan's chakra not do anything to Hidan? Removing the chakra of a person wares them out and will eventually cause them to die from exhaustion. While I realize that Hidan CAN NOT die of exhaustion, he can still pass out and feel the negative effects from it. I see no reason why he wouldn't.
Kisame's weakness is an EXPERT taijutsu master; Gai. Hidan is a kenjutsu/close ranged specialist. Big difference. Kisame is also a Kenjutsu specialist. While they both are skilled and it's harder to tell who is better in this respect; Kisame has the strength advantage. Even a TAIJUTSU expert commented on his pure raw strength[
You must be registered for see links
].
Second bolded; does he need to? Once under the Bakusui Shōha jutsu, Kisame is free to either use Mizu Bunshin to out number and pressure Hidan that way. Or use the Five Feeding Sharks jutsu. And, once Hidan is caught in it. He's done for. Read the description please.
You must be registered for see images
Hidan will be caught in a current, unable to move as he is sliced apart. You realize that he can be damaged? Asuma and well, Hidan himself has shown this. He will be ripped to shreds by either the Five feeding Sharks or actual shark summons.
Hidan has no way of defeating Kisame, anyways. Even if Hidan gains an edge in CQC, though I fail to see him getting around a couple Mizu Bunshin and Kisame. His only true way of defeating Kisame is the ritual. How will he use this move while water prevents the blood from staying? And, any harm done to Kisame can easily be replaced by stollen chakra from Hidan.
At bolded incorrect, you do realize the same is applied to loss of Blood? Without Blood = death = passing out. I've already been through this before but yea he is not passing out from loss of chakra nor feeling any side effects. And Hidan definitely has the skills to draw blood from Kisame close combat, I agree the the feeding sharks is where it stops for Hidan, I never really said Hidan wins. As for the second bolded Hidan would barely have enough chakra to satisfy samehada in the first place and sooner or later he runs out of it regardless he is still fighting on. Again reason why I say mid diff is because
1. Samehada is not nearly as effective against Hidan as it usually is,
2. Hidan cannot be killed by chakra loss,
3. Hidan does not incorporate chakra into his moves
4. but he can be shredded by the sharks
therefore it is mid diff imo. Maybe with intel low-mid.
Quoted from wiki,
This technique is used to trap a victim inside a virtually inescapable sphere of water. The only downside to this technique is that the user must keep at least one arm inside the sphere at all times in order for the victim to remain imprisoned. This technique requires a sufficient amount of water, which can be provided by expelling it from one's mouth.[2] Once trapped the target is unable to move while within it due to the heaviness of the water. Because of the density of the water it can be used, to a limited extent, for defensive purposes if performed on oneself.[2] It can also be stored in scrolls as traps.[3]
Water clones can be used in preparation for the technique, which block an opponent's attack and trap the attacker in the prison using the clone's own water.[4] Neji Hyūga was able to use his ability to release chakra from all of his tenketsu simultaneously to disrupt the flow of chakra and break the prison.[5]
The only reason neji was able to break the technique and team 7 in part 1, was by disrupting the flow. It's unbreakable otherwise. What can also happen is that he can use his Shark Summons which stop hidan dead in his tracks.
lol bro Hidan is not getting captured by mere water clones of that level....they took those clones out as soon as they were released. Maybe if he gets caught it might be an issue, but even then no...Neji, Lee, tenten have to fight the water because they arent able to breath underwater Hidan will just feel heavier but he wont have any drawbacks when it comes to surviving in it so he could force his way out. Trapping the user in water is where more than 50% of the effectiveness of that jutsu comes in...when a person is immune to drowning its a different case, but he wouldnt get caught in the first place he is not that fodder lmao.
Mizu Bunshin can appear from any, ANY water source, which kisame will have. Hidan, someone who couldn't outblitz a possible explosive tag kunai, will not outblitz this. Binding on it's own, that's enough for "win" standards, as he puts hidan in a status to where he cannot move. He can't force his way out, not even neji, pushing at the tenketsu point that was able to break out of kidoumaru's webs that it takes amaterasu level attacks to break could break it. He, with no special feats, could do nothing of the sort. I would give links, but these scenes are so prominent I don't think anyone doesn't know of them.
At bolded incorrect, you do realize the same is applied to loss of Blood? Without Blood = death = passing out. I've already been through this before but yea he is not passing out from loss of chakra nor feeling any side effects. And Hidan definitely has the skills to draw blood from Kisame close combat, I agree the the feeding sharks is where it stops for Hidan, I never really said Hidan wins. As for the second bolded Hidan would barely have enough chakra to satisfy samehada in the first place and sooner or later he runs out of it regardless he is still fighting on. Again reason why I say mid diff is because
1. Samehada is not nearly as effective against Hidan as it usually is,
2. Hidan cannot be killed by chakra loss,
3. Hidan does not incorporate chakra into his moves
4. but he can be shredded by the sharks
therefore it is mid diff imo. Maybe with intel low-mid.
Yes, it applies to blood loss. But something you might have forgotten. . Kisame can regenerate nearly any wound thanks to Samehada. Stolen chakra from Hidan will be used to keep Kisame in top physical condition .
And, if Hidan runs out of chakra. . That's the equivalent of running out of chakra. His body will be tired. There's nothing to suggest that if Hidan runs out of chakra he can continuously fight on, no negative consequences.
Not much chakra is required, first of all. Look
You must be registered for see links
, and then look again at
You must be registered for see links
after the regeneration. The size isn't all that different. If you can't find it, top panel.
The equivalent of no chakra = death. Hidan is apparently dead, too. Even if hidan doesn't die from his chakra being drained, he will be incredibly tired and the body will not be able to function. That's why the gentle fist is so deadly, the equivalent of no chakra in this series means dead.
Incorrect, my friend. I shall begin with the bolded. Why would removing Hidan's chakra not do anything to Hidan? Removing the chakra of a person wares them out and will eventually cause them to die from exhaustion. While I realize that Hidan CAN NOT die of exhaustion, he can still pass out and feel the negative effects from it. I see no reason why he wouldn't.
Kisame's weakness is an EXPERT taijutsu master; Gai. Hidan is a kenjutsu/close ranged specialist. Big difference. Kisame is also a Kenjutsu specialist. While they both are skilled and it's harder to tell who is better in this respect; Kisame has the strength advantage. Even a TAIJUTSU expert commented on his pure raw strength[
You must be registered for see links
].
Second bolded; does he need to? Once under the Bakusui Shōha jutsu, Kisame is free to either use Mizu Bunshin to out number and pressure Hidan that way. Or use the Five Feeding Sharks jutsu. And, once Hidan is caught in it. He's done for. Read the description please.
You must be registered for see images
Hidan will be caught in a current, unable to move as he is sliced apart. You realize that he can be damaged? Asuma and well, Hidan himself has shown this. He will be ripped to shreds by either the Five feeding Sharks or actual shark summons.
Hidan has no way of defeating Kisame, anyways. Even if Hidan gains an edge in CQC, though I fail to see him getting around a couple Mizu Bunshin and Kisame. His only true way of defeating Kisame is the ritual. How will he use this move while water prevents the blood from staying? And, any harm done to Kisame can easily be replaced by stollen chakra from Hidan.
Yes, it applies to blood loss. But something you might have forgotten. . Kisame can regenerate nearly any wound thanks to Samehada. Stolen chakra from Hidan will be used to keep Kisame in top physical condition .
An d, if Hidan runs out of chakra. . That's the equivalent of running out of chakra. His body will be tired. There's nothing to suggest that if Hidan runs out of chakra he can continuously fight on, no negative consequences.
Not much chakra is required, first of all. Look
You must be registered for see links
, and then look again at
You must be registered for see links
after the regeneration. The size isn't all that different. If you can't find it, top panel.
I should have already cleared up the chakra is the same as blood loss...you see youre applying the regular laws to Hidan which cant be done. I can literally take your own wprds, switch
t with blood and it applies to anyone but Hidan. Here: " if Hidan runs out of blood.. That's the equivalent of running out of blood. His body will be:yeah: tired. There's nothing to suggest that if Hidan runs out of blood he can continuously fight on, no negative consequences." Yet Hidan bypasses this just as he does with chakra because it can be applied with blood. Blood loss = weak body/death just as Chakra loss =weak body/death...but it simply doesnt work that way when it comes to Hidan. You are probably right with the second point though...i was just saying its not preferred..a ninjutsu based opponent would be preferred..and when it comes to close combat they should be atleast even if Hidan isnt better anyways. I will catch up with all this later though gtg for now man.
The equivalent of no chakra = death. Hidan is apparently dead, too. Even if hidan doesn't die from his chakra being drained, he will be incredibly tired and the body will not be able to function. That's why the gentle fist is so deadly, the equivalent of no chakra in this series means dead.
That would mean he has infinite chakra.. lmao, if you have no chakra, you die.. why do you think so many people want the byakugan in times of war? Chakra Drain in this series is broken beyond belief, I don't see how this isn't understandable by now.
I should have already cleared up the chakra is the same as blood loss...you see youre applying the regular laws to Hidan which cant be done. I can literally take your own wprds, switch
t with blood and it applies to anyone but Hidan. Here: " if Hidan runs out of blood.. That's the equivalent of running out of blood. His body will be:yeah: tired. There's nothing to suggest that if Hidan runs out of blood he can continuously fight on, no negative consequences." Yet Hidan bypasses this just as he does with chakra because it can be applied with blood. Blood loss = weak body/death just as Chakra loss =weak body/death...but it simply doesnt work that way when it comes to Hidan. You are probably right with the second point though...i was just saying its not preferred..a ninjutsu based opponent would be preferred..and when it comes to close combat they should be atleast even if Hidan isnt better anyways. I will catch up with all this later though gtg for now man.
I find that logic can be used on Hidan for most cases, if a bone were broken. It would hurt him and hinder his movements and speed. He would not be able to move as. . Natural as before. If he were to lose too much blood, his body should feel fatigued. Same with chakra.
I get what you;re trying to say, but the whole immortal premise that was brought up is the fact that no matter what you do, he won't die. Not that if you don't chop a limb off, break a bone, or anything else. That he will be capable of walking it off. It's not something that was suggested for Hidan to be capable of doing.
Chakra Loss='s death for most, Not for Hidan. Just exhaustion. Which is what should and would happen.
That would mean he has infinite chakra.. lmao, if you have no chakra, you die.. why do you think so many people want the byakugan in times of war? Chakra Drain in this series is broken beyond belief, I don't see how this isn't understandable by now.
lmao i dont think ur getting it dude.... look if you have no blood you die...if u stab ursepf in the heart u die...i can go on foreve
..lol the norm does NOT apply here lol gentle fist does not affect hidan.
I find that logic can be used on Hidan for most cases, if a bone were broken. It would hurt him and hinder his movements and speed. He would not be able to move as. . Natural as before. If he were to lose too much blood, his body should feel fatigued. Same with chakra.
I get what you;re trying to say, but the whole immortal premise that was brought up is the fact that no matter what you do, he won't die. Not that if you don't chop a limb off, break a bone, or anything else. That he will be capable of walking it off. It's not something that was suggested for Hidan to be capable of doing.
Chakra Loss='s death for most, Not for Hidan. Just exhaustion. Which is what should and would happen.
you are incorrect about the whole bone thing...i dont think u fully understand Hidans capabilities...right now i have to go but i will explain why you are wrong later if someone hasnt by then.
you are incorrect about the whole bone thing...i dont think u fully understand Hidans capabilities...right now i have to go but i will explain why you are wrong later if someone hasnt by then.
I fail to see how Hidan would be capable of working just as well as he normally would when a bone is broken. His body wouldn't be capable of naturally moving and, depending on the breakage, thinks would grind up together and moving the leg itself would be awkward.
...although he does have a 5 in stamina ..which few people do .. so sucking all his chakra may take a while