That is the problem: aside from a few people, the majority of people in the versus section do not actually think about the match-up and their implications aside from their own point of view. In this particularly thread, I am only questioning some people of their preconceptions evaluating it, and deciding if those preconceptions, along with my own, are actually infallible.
Kakazu vs. Sasori
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That is the problem: aside from a few people, the majority of people in the versus section do not actually think about the match-up and their implications aside from their own point of view. In this particularly thread, I am only questioning some people of their preconceptions evaluating it, and deciding if those preconceptions, along with my own, are actually infallible.
Prince Charles
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really? varrah!??! your seriously trying to fabricate the manga!!!
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please dont get exposed! trying to fabricate the manga is sad enough but trying to manipulate us users into believing your false views makes you worse than trash!!!
Kakuzu rapes this trash! mid diff at most! Im always up for a debate! unless your scared!?!?!??!?!?!?!?!
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I don’t think I understand, by evaluating another’s and my own thoughts, and deciding if they are infallible, I am fabricating the manga.
Help me understand what you mean, Charles.
Charles, I have only questioned my own preconceptions, judged them as fallible, and questioned others ideas that may have perhaps caused a certain idea to be held without fully considering their implications.
I was under the impression that this was a signpost of critical or reflective thinking.
I was under the impression that this was a signpost of critical or reflective thinking.
I have to scared, huh? I simply can't decline out of uninterested in the actual combatants or match and interest instead of the ideas leaking from a person’s head?
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Prince Charles
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Like an old wise man once said…
Aye cuh, if you tryna get popp of, holla at you boy one-time, cuh—we can run it anywhere, anytime…
It’s nothin’.
(But, nah, but I’d have to decline though, thanks for the offer.)
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Prince Charles
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as u can see nb this trash is scared to DEBATE ME! cus he knows first hand i fuk sht up!
#charlesOut
#charlesOut
TheAncientCenturion
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Prince Charles
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that guy is trash! smh he keeps stalling! im ready anytime for the debate!!!!!!!!!! his scared! IM CALLING FT OUT
@Varrah, lmao this guy man
Do you really :O I've always been under the impression that you never so cared for me :| But thanks my man.
Lets see
Not this argument again, if we are using such things as proof then Kakuzu should be able to cast infinite amount of Raiton-Gians
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As it as well states no limits for this jutsu
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Nor for instance can we take what people say about others not themselves as if we took the hype about others to be true..... It would be a totally different Naruto Verse, Going by feats he hasn't shown that he can do covering of the person even though he had ample opportunities to do so
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If you would like to look at it the logical way Chiyo clearly says "MOLDING it into any SHAPE" Last I checked waves of Iron sand to cover Kakuzu is not really a shape, nor can you really mold it into a coating, Iron sand is metallic sand nothing flexible about it saying it can bend and cover others is near lunacy.
Yes?
You are arguing in the case of a negative claim; that is, that since Sasori producing said configuration of Iron Sand has not been proved, it is false. In arguing this way you base your argument not on knowledge, but on ignorance, a lack of knowledge. The lack of evidence for Sasori producing said configuration of Iron Sand does not constitute as sufficient evidence against it.
There is nothing but hype... Hype=/= Evidence
Ughh Im not here to argue about that.
Not arguing this evidence thing i'm arguing Kakuzu and Sasori U_U
Whaat? Truthfully Don't get this.
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I guess so?
Not really.
Still never countered Fuuton Atsugi,
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Since some people have failed to comprehend Varrah's reasoning, in simple, Domu can be shattered. Diamonds shatter easily when you apply a bit of blunt force and if applied correctly. Even an object as simple as a hammer can do it, and can even shatter it to pieces. If Sasori was to use something similar, he could potentially bypass Domu with little to no difficulty. And that's all he needs.
And since Satetsu can be mold into any shape Sasori likes, any configuration is possible. Even as simple as a hammer, body cover or even a chair.
This is for dummies. Good night people.
And since Satetsu can be mold into any shape Sasori likes, any configuration is possible. Even as simple as a hammer, body cover or even a chair.
This is for dummies. Good night people.
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These responses are also fallacious, and sparse in value.
How do you arrive at the conclusion that Kakuzu should be able cast an infinite number of Ration: Gian when the page of the databook you have provided claims that it increases the number of lightning bolts make it possible to slay multiple
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?You premises do not follow your conclusion; it’s a non-sequitur. The argument is not structurally sound because it draws an incompatible conclusion with its premise; the claim expressed in the premise and the conclusion cannot be both true. In the case of incompatible premises, the law of non-contradiction (not both A and not A) prevents the drawing of a conclusion that is contradictory to one of the premises. The premise, then, is an improper one. The flaw in your argument has the form of:
- Since, A (premise)
- and B, (premise)
- Therefore, A. (conclusion)
Translation:
- Since the databook is a source of proof, then Kakuzu should be able to cast an infinite number of Ration: Gian, (premise)
- and the databook claims: If the number of lightning bolts is increased, this attack gains the ability to slaughter multiple enemies in an instant, converged. (premise)
- Therefore, Kakuzu casting an infinite number of Ration: Gain is true. (conclusion)
Since the conclusion of the argument’s form and its second premise cannot both be true, the argument inappropriately draws the conclusion of “therefore A” and is therefore structurally flawed.
Your argument’s conclusion misses the thrust of the evidence provided to support it. Did you perhaps draw the an inadequate conclusion in haste, was it deliberate, or did you genuinely believe that the evidence your provided supported the conclusion?
This response does the opposite of a non-sequitur in that it gives bad reasons for the conclusion. I think this can be assigned to you already being convinced of the respond you've provided, rather than carelessness. In any case, you have arbitrarily assigned functions for the techniques, and criticized them for not fulfilling the functions you've assigned them.
I am at fault here. If this is to be discussed logically, you have to realize you took what I mean by the word “smothering” in a different matter than I; this is completely my fault. Kakuzu would only be “smothered” insofar as a configuration entrapping Kakuzu, and covering him entirely with said structure that conceivably uses swift strikes and an overwhelming plunging force to incapacitate him.
Unfortunately for your argument this still argues from
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. Fortunately, for your argument to have any validity and soundness, you must address this point.
Regrettably, you are unaware the fact that in arguing on the matter, your are using your own lack of knowledge as the basis for your claims; it’s a textbook example of an
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, Zex. I do not I can explain much better than what you quoted of me — perhaps this
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would be of some value. Yes in fact; you are using your lack of knowledge of a subject as the basis for your argument. This, again, is
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or
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. If you cannot acknowledge this and take fallibility , then I will respectively refuse to response to any of your future posts on the matter. I did not counter it because it was not brought up during my quoted scenario; however, if you would a counter, one is to for Sasori to utilize the Iron Sand to create a highly dense object that will certainly withstand the force of the wind.
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Ok Ok Ok Ok You've got me with all these ignorance and what not U_U
Shall we argue this point?
Further? I'll Go with you and say that Sasori can in fact do this, Kakuzu will still win if you'll allow me to continue arguing this with you
What exactly would you be arguing?
Perhaps we should begin with restarted arguments; in this, we can carefully look at each others arguments and pointing our ideas we find fallible for whatever reasons and help them move past it, searching for better, supportive, strategies.
Though if you would like to continue our current argument, that's fine.
Though if you would like to continue our current argument, that's fine.
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