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yah... very good combo...
Kakashi with Kurama as a support > Ems Madara?
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Not sure how this would end even without Kurama involved.
Kamui WOULD be effective if it hit.
Perfect Susano'o is countered by Self-Kamui'ing to safety and going to an either distant or concealed location. PS might easily be Kamuiable (is that a word?) even if it's impossible to transport Madara without his enormous construct.
Can Kakashi step out of Kamui while UNDERGROUND? That would increase his potential for deception MASSIVELY.
Madara wins in endurance, jutsu strength and Sharingan use in general, but it might not be enough.
Kamui WOULD be effective if it hit.
Perfect Susano'o is countered by Self-Kamui'ing to safety and going to an either distant or concealed location. PS might easily be Kamuiable (is that a word?) even if it's impossible to transport Madara without his enormous construct.
Can Kakashi step out of Kamui while UNDERGROUND? That would increase his potential for deception MASSIVELY.
Madara wins in endurance, jutsu strength and Sharingan use in general, but it might not be enough.
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kyuubi is an immortal unkillable demon immune to genjutsu control due to kakashis presence to break him out.
kakashi was 1 second away from being 6th hokage. and yes he will. kurama gives kakashi some chakra. kakashi warps him into madara's face. point blank bijuudama. end of fight
details of the fight are uknown. didnt see mu participating or having a single scratch on him. nor do we know what kind of level they were at at the time period. mu undoubtedly hadnt perfected jinton or he would have won. madara has no jinton counter in EMS. seems to me like onoki just challenged him and got a beatdown.
yes which is why narutos part of juubi right now. wait no he isnt\
no its a mere fly compared to kurama. susano slash wont hurt it if a juubi slap/reverse bijuudama didnt.
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Just f***ing stop this..... You fanboys go to far this time jeez....
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Yes, why not. Kakashi >>>>> SO6paths bitches. / Sarcasm. Are you people serious? This is just too much. Show me proof that Kakashi even Kamui-ed a Hachibi and I'll disprove to you that he didn't. And even if he did - hypothetically - is there any proof that he can kamui a wall of Chakra along with the user inside? Nothing but self-made hype. One slash from PS send Kakashi into oblivion, and pushes Naruto near death IF he doesn't quickly counter it with a full-fledged TBB with preperation. And Naruto's prime attacks are easily countered with Gunbai alone.
TBB required too much time to prepare so he'll be extremely foolish to even attempt that in Madara's presence. In rest of the areas, Maadra is as fast as Naruto as shown by his taijutsu feats and his genjutsu will throw Naruto off his feet like it did with Bee in Sasuke's case BEFORE Hachibi broke the trance. That's all what Madara needs.
TBB required too much time to prepare so he'll be extremely foolish to even attempt that in Madara's presence. In rest of the areas, Maadra is as fast as Naruto as shown by his taijutsu feats and his genjutsu will throw Naruto off his feet like it did with Bee in Sasuke's case BEFORE Hachibi broke the trance. That's all what Madara needs.
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no it isnt. the cube didnt encompass the susano which was activated outside. if madara was in it and tanked being disintegrated with it then yes its a counter
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the jinton missed madara and only grazed his arm. he used susano because they were using sand to stop him absorbing everything.
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^ You need to read the manga again, then:
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He used Cm, then stabilized it to PS. It didn't miss Madara at all, as they were aiming for Madara to begin with. CS cancels out Onoki's particle technique. And even if I am to go by with your statement, the part of sussano still inside the technique should have been reduced to dust if what say is true. CS = cancellation of Particle technique. Believe whatever you want, these two pages say otherwise.
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. It did encompass him along with all the other techniques. "That will leave an opening for my particle technique, giving us plenty of time to seal you". And you are saying he missed it, when this happened in the next panel:
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.He used Cm, then stabilized it to PS. It didn't miss Madara at all, as they were aiming for Madara to begin with. CS cancels out Onoki's particle technique. And even if I am to go by with your statement, the part of sussano still inside the technique should have been reduced to dust if what say is true. CS = cancellation of Particle technique. Believe whatever you want, these two pages say otherwise.
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I guess Kakashi has a known counter for Amaterasu. I guess he can counter the perfect Susanoo.
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Pay closer attention to what's actually happening, shelke. Madara was obviously not enclosed by Genkai Hakuri, which can be clearly seen. If that was the case, he would've been completely turned to dust. Their combined attack was catching him outside of the cube; otherwise, there wouldn't have been - as I already said - anything left of him to be caught.
The logical conclusion of that is that he activated his perfect Susanoo outside of Genkai Hakuri. That's as well clearly visible on the following picture, where its feet are illustrated outside of the crater. Jinton is not really destroying, it rather disintegrates; that's why literally everything inside that cube will be turned to dust. Pertaining to Jinton's functionality, I don't see any difference between the normal and the perfect Susanoo.
As this is basically current Naruto + Kakashi, I'd give this fight to them. Madara is clearly superior to both of them one on one, but Kakashi being constantly protected, restored and offensively assisted by Kyuubi's Chakra is quite some combination. Furthermore, Madara cannot summon Kyuubi in this fight, as it sided with Kakashi.
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The logical conclusion of that is that he activated his perfect Susanoo outside of Genkai Hakuri. That's as well clearly visible on the following picture, where its feet are illustrated outside of the crater. Jinton is not really destroying, it rather disintegrates; that's why literally everything inside that cube will be turned to dust. Pertaining to Jinton's functionality, I don't see any difference between the normal and the perfect Susanoo.
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As this is basically current Naruto + Kakashi, I'd give this fight to them. Madara is clearly superior to both of them one on one, but Kakashi being constantly protected, restored and offensively assisted by Kyuubi's Chakra is quite some combination. Furthermore, Madara cannot summon Kyuubi in this fight, as it sided with Kakashi.
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ps rapes kakashi cannot dodge its sword to big to kamui its atleast 7x 8 tails size madara low diff and also if he has chakra body kurama madara should have full powerd 100% kurama but naruto bm vs ems madara naruto wins med diff
people act as if kakashi can survive a ps slash it destoryed 2 mountains
people act as if kakashi can survive a ps slash it destoryed 2 mountains
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Regarding Perfect Susano'o he DOES have a counter: Entering the Kamui realm and exiting it either some distance away or in a well-hidden/secure location, and proceeding to snipe with Kamui.
COUNTERING is different from TANKING, History.
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if madara can counter kamui he would win. he can control kyuubi with genjutsu and win. but he has shown no counter yet
someone came up with a theory that if obito was not here kakashi wouldve kamui madara by now, and to be honest, it all depends if madara has a counter to kamui or not.
and madara is top tier, but any person with average intelligence would know kakashi is very strong, and overpowered with kyuubi replenishing his chakra
someone came up with a theory that if obito was not here kakashi wouldve kamui madara by now, and to be honest, it all depends if madara has a counter to kamui or not.
and madara is top tier, but any person with average intelligence would know kakashi is very strong, and overpowered with kyuubi replenishing his chakra