Kakashi was playing with Kakuzu

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Ok before flaming, please read what i want to sayU_U

First of all, when i say "play with Kakuzu", you must know that i'm not saying he would have beaten him for sure(since we never know), but only that he didn't wanted to fight all out and this is the proof.
He says here:
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"This time ended without me needing to use the Mangekyou sharingan"
Like he says, he "didn't needed". That means that from his point of view, all the time, he wasn't enough in danger to need to use his jutsu.

From your point of view, what does that mean?? I think it means that "he wanted to beat Kakuzu without using Kamui" but that doesn't mean he couldn't have use it.

After that he says: "Although if you hadn't shown up when you did, i would have had to" That implies that at that moment in particularly, he was in danger and so at that moment he would have release his jutsu.

And just after that, he says: "and i'd be in bed right now"[/U]. When he says, he would be in bed, it implies that he knew already that if he had release Kamui at that moment, it would have defeated Kakuzu. Now i'm not saying it would have happen the way he thinks since we never know what happen in battle, but that implies at least that the match wasn't over at that moment, and that from his point of view, he would have win.

Now you can speculate if you want :D
 
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well he didnt want to use it because if he failed he would have been unable to move.
 

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This is true, on top of the fact that Hidan was swinging his syche around at kakashi like a maniac and him being Immortal + Kakashi having to save 3 chunin was enough of a challenge.

IN MY OPINION

Kakashi would have beaten kakuzu High-difficulty if it was one on one
 

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i agree with you. kakashi was holding back imo, partially to save energy and partially for the plot. i think he could have beaten kakuzu. lets face it, he was taking on both hidan and kakuzu for awhile and was holding his own. if he didnt have to do that and he could instead have saved energy, i think he stood a good chance of beating kakuzu.
 

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why do you keep spelling it poit of vue
 

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He only uses kamui as a last resort considering it drains him considerably, almost to the point where he can barely move.

Him not using it doesn't mean he wasn't going all out, it simply means him and the others were able to defeat Kakuzu without him having to utilize it.
 

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He only uses kamui as a last resort considering it drains him considerable, almost to the point where he can barely move.

Him not using it doesn't mean he wasn't going all out, it simply means him and the others were able to defeat Kakuzu without it him having to utilize it.

This ^^
 

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Only when Kakuzu took all of his hearts in one body, Kakashi had the chance to use Kamui. How could he use it otherwise when he was fighting his creatures in the same time? If Naruto and Yamato hadn't been arrived there, Kakashi would have used his Kamui in order to end with Kakuzu but also he by himself would have ended up in a hospital.
 

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Nah Kakashi wasn't really holding back. Kakuzu was owning him, Kamui is always Kakashi's last resort because if he misses it's definitely over for him. Kakazu had kakashi out matched in strength and numbers throughout most of the fight.

Also, it's not that he wanted to beat Kakuzu without using it, it's that he can't just rely on Kamui...
 

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It seems like as always Kamui is a last resort because of the deleterious health issues. He didn't have to use it in this instance because of Naruto's intervention, not because he was toying with Kakuza. That isn't to say he would have needed it otherwise.
 

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Umm, no distractions, Kakuzu would have won
 

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Nah Kakashi wasn't really holding back. Kakuzu was owning him, Kamui is always Kakashi's last resort because if he misses it's definitely over for him. Kakazu had kakashi out matched in strength and numbers throughout most of the fight.

Also, it's not that he wanted to beat Kakuzu without using it, it's that he can't just rely on Kamui...

this
 

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He was going all out, he just didnt want to be forced into using kamui which is risky.
That being said for 3/4 of the fight he was evading hidan and covering for choji and ino. So he was at a disadvantage but i still think that in a 1v1 kakuzu wins hig difficulty.
 

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Ok before flaming, please read what i want to sayU_U

First of all, when i say "play with Kakuzu", you must know that i'm not saying he would have beaten him for sure(since we never know), but only that he didn't wanted to fight all out and this is the proof.
He says here:
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"This time ended without me needing to use the Mangekyou sharingan"
Like he says, he "didn't needed". That means that from his point of vue, all the time, he wasn't enough in danger to need to use his jutsu.

From your point of vue, what does that mean?? I think it means that "he wanted to beat Kakuzu without using Kamui" but that doesn't mean he couldn't have use it.

After that he says: "Although if you hadn't shown up when you did, i would have had to" That implies that at that moment in particularly, he was in danger and so at that moment he would have release his jutsu.

And just after that, he says: "and i'd be in bed right now"[/U]. When he says, he would be in bed, it implies that he knew already that if he had release Kamui at that moment, it would have defeated Kakuzu. Now i'm not saying it would have happen the way he thinks since we never know what happen in battle, but that implies at least that the match wasn't over at that moment, and that from his point of vue, he would have win.

Now you can speculate if you want :D

Agreed,an other proof is that Kakashi let Shikamaru take the lead and he even trusted his plan even when Kakuzu was on Kakashi.He could have use kamui and his otehr heart doesn't matter since his real body will be in an other dimension.Thanks to plot no jutsu again.

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Then in anime there are a lot of scene we see Kakuzu giving hit to Kakashi that doesn't appear in manga.Finally when Kakuzu had all his masks on him and was preparing his attack,not only Kakashi was grabbed by Kakuzu's tentacles (meaning no escape for Kakuzu) but he was also at 1-2 metter ,that's why a kamui from that distance is overkill especially when your opponant has no info about kamui.
People seems to forget that Kakashi has 100% efficient with kamui,each time it's used the target is dropped into the space barrier and can just struggle helplessly.
When Kakashi said "If you guys hadn't show that time i'd have to use kamui" you can see the pic of him remember the scene when Kakuzu was 1-2 metter near him.

It's obvious kakashi'd kill him, plot no jutsu wanted let Naruto test his new Rasen Shuriken.
 
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you'll have to give kakauzu credit, because he fought hashirama.
 

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Kakashi didnt hold back. He is smart enough to understand that using kamui too much destroy your body (not he's eyes, but body). Also, he had it hard to take Deidara's arm, so yes
 

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Of course in that scene it was Kakashi's last ressort when Kakuzu was standing near him.I don't see kakuzu avoid a kamui in that distance.So yes Naruto or not he'd kill him.
 
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bogard, why i am not surprised?
 

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bogard, why i am not surprised?
Maybe cuz it's the truth :D
Kakashi didnt hold back. He is smart enough to understand that using kamui too much destroy your body (not he's eyes, but body). Also, he had it hard to take Deidara's arm, so yes
I think he had better control than against Deidara at that time. Remember Deidara only escape a bit cuz he could not perform his jutsu well(he said it himself) :)
 
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