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Kakashi's Kamui recently has been slower than ever before. At it's fastest it would stomp sauce into the ground.
 

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Lel Sasuke fanboys terrible as ever. Sasuke has nothing on Kakashi

Amaterasu is nothing against a Kamui user [ ] [ ] [ ]

Arrows(best Susanoo offense) are useless against a Kamui user [ ] [ ] And Kakashi didn't even have his MS activated when the arrows were already approaching point blank

Kamui can warp far bigger targets than Sasuke's Susanoo [ ]

Sasuke has no chance in this fight
Kakashi's Kamui recently has been slower than ever before. At it's fastest it would stomp sauce into the ground.
It's because of Kakashi's blindness. Latest chapter confirmed it
 

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[ ] back then he
wasn't able to move, and Sasuke was obtaining the final stage of Susano'o which contains a enton orb, if it wasn't for Sasuke going blind Kakashi was dead, keep in mind that Sasuke battled 5 kages, {Killed 1 of them} and kept up with Kakashi's taijutsu. final stage MS Sasuke would stomp Kakashi.​

I'm afraid you got it a bit wrong.
Sasuke was beaten by every kage except from Danzo, whom he didn't fight then, was healed by Karin before and after a fight against Danzo who couldn't use MS (though I agree that he was only partially healed after that fight) and was overpowered in taijutsu by Kakashi without Sharingan.

Two more things you need to keep in mind, and I think you can't deny them:
1. Kakashi didn't want to kill Sasuke - he said it several times and when he finally made a decision to do so, Naruto stopped him
2. The only one who got hit in their fight was Sasuke.
 

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lmfao at ppl who think kakashi has to kamui the entire susanoo. i guess some didnt realize what kakashi did in the latest chapter. kakashi warped just the necessary part of onmyoudon

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all kakashi needs to do is warp the part of susanoo sasuke is hiding in (just like he did with madara) and then he is exposed to another kamui.

kakashi shits.
 

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Want to see Kakashi warping Sasuke if he stays in the forehead of his perfect Susanoo and goes on rampage.

EMS Sasuke >>>> Kakashi.
 

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lmfao at ppl who think kakashi has to kamui the entire susanoo. i guess some didnt realize what kakashi did in the latest chapter. kakashi warped just the necessary part of onmyoudon

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all kakashi needs to do is warp the part of susanoo sasuke is hiding in (just like he did with madara) and then he is exposed to another kamui.

kakashi shits.

then sasuke rebuilds the susanoo immediately(and covers it black flames) . the only way i can see kakashi winning is if he uses kamui right off the bat.
 

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then sasuke rebuilds the susanoo immediately(and covers it black flames) . the only way i can see kakashi winning is if he uses kamui right off the bat.

because all of what you said is faster than kamui right? Lol
 

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^^yeah pretty much since susanoo gets rebuilt in an instant. Once susanoo comes up, kakashi gets stomped when sasuke starts spamming susanoo arrows/magatams(and this is ems, sasuke isn't going to go blind or let up the pressure like he did last time.) The ONLY way kakashi wins is if he uses kamui at the start. If he doesn't-he loses. Plain and simple.
 

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^^yeah pretty much since susanoo gets rebuilt in an instant. Once susanoo comes up, kakashi gets stomped when sasuke starts spamming susanoo arrows/magatams(and this is ems, sasuke isn't going to go blind or let up pressure like he last time.) The ONLY way kakashi wins is if he uses kamui at the start. If he doesn't-he loses. Plain and simple.

just like madara rebuilt susanoo when shinsuusenju fuked it up?
just like sasuke rebuilt susanoo after obito decked him?
just like madara "rebuilt" his susanoo after gaara dragged him out?

kamui is leaps and bounds faster than what anyone's done before to best susanoo. it doesnt get rebuilt right away, it has to be deactivated and remade.

- kakashi has bested arrows before. arrows are faster than magatamas, which hiding like a mole can best. ur situation relies on the fact that kakashi will never lay eyes on sasuke which is bs and he undoubtedly will, lmao.
 

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just like madara rebuilt susanoo when shinsuusenju fuked it up?
just like sasuke rebuilt susanoo after obito decked him?
just like madara "rebuilt" his susanoo after gaara dragged him out?

kamui is leaps and bounds faster than what anyone's done before to best susanoo. it doesnt get rebuilt right away, it has to be deactivated and remade.

- kakashi has bested arrows before. arrows are faster than magatamas, which hiding like a mole can best. ur situation relies on the fact that kakashi will never lay eyes on sasuke which is bs and he undoubtedly will, lmao.

No,my situation is perfectly valid. All those other situations are completely irrelevant-as BRUTE FORCE was used to bust open the susanoo. When that happens, the user generally feels the impact. Just look at sasuke after his susanoo was destroyed-you could tell he had taken some damage.(although susanoo reduced the damage obviously) Whenever you get injured/take damage, your chakra levels drop drastically, hence time is taken to rebuild. Like I said, Sasuke rebuilds the susanoo easily and proceeds to rape kakashi with his arrows/magatamas spammage. It's obvious that sasuke is stronger than kakashi overall at this point.(only deranged kakashi fanboys think otherwise.)
 

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Just for future reference, if I say "don't bring up Susanoo because it's transparent", then... don't bring up Susanoo. You know why?



Because it's transparent.

I understood what your post said very well, but it still doesn't change the fact here.​


As for the distance thing, only blind Kakashi needs to be close to Kamui. I assume we're talking about healthy version in this thread, hence, increasing distance won't do shit.

Again, you have no prove of healthy Kakashi distance with Kamui being all ranges...it was never stated anywhere in the manga.​
 

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No,my situation is perfectly valid. All those other situations are completely irrelevant-as BRUTE FORCE was used to bust open the susanoo. When that happens, the user generally feels the impact. Just look at sasuke after his susanoo was destroyed-you could tell he had taken some damage.(although susanoo reduced the damage obviously) Whenever you get injured/take damage, your chakra levels drop drastically, hence time is taken to rebuild. Like I said, Sasuke rebuilds the susanoo easily and proceeds to rape kakashi with his arrows/magatamas spammage. It's obvious that sasuke is stronger than kakashi overall at this point.(only deranged kakashi fanboys think otherwise.)

everything you said is irrelevant as u have provided absolutely zero proof of how sasuke reactivates susano'o in time before kakashi snipes him.

- first and foremost - kamui has no indication signs at all . sasuke wont know what hit him.

- second of all, kamuis speed is second to none. kakashi managed to kamui gedo mazos arm mid kuchiyose

- managed to kamui onmyoudon before 8th gate guy reached madara . before you give me the excuse of gai being mid-air this chapter he was shown to run on air so that is irrelevant.

- managed to kamui bm clone before obito could comprehend

yet sasuke will react? if kakashi can kamui gedo mazo's arm (much bigger than a small portion of susanoo) in an instant and outdo gai in that regard what makes you think sasuke will have time to do what you say he can? Lol. either prove it with scans or this discussion has ended.
 

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Kakashi kamuis Sasuke's head.
 

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Kakashi's Kamui speed is laughable. This has been shown far too many times now, especially in the latest chapters:

- Madara Summoned the Gedo-Mezo. Kakashi used Kamui. The Mezo was there for a few seconds with the warp point present on its head. Kakashi missed, and got its arm instead.

- He used Kamui on Obito. The guy was walking with the Warp Point on him. The 'tap tap' signs on the page show his walk. During this entire time, Kakashi couldn't warp him and this large lag allowed for Obito to cancel his Kamui. Faster than Amaterasu indeed.

- During his usage on BM Naruto, people forget that Obito was fighting three people at once. He couldn't have known whether Naruto ended the Rasangan or not. He couldn't have known it was a Kage Bushin. Even right a the end, Naruto used a Bijuu Dama to distract Obito in order for Kakashi's exit-Kamui to work.

- Obito also clearly mentions that Kakashi's Kamui is faster than the speed he throws his stakes out. Now, let this be known that Obito's stakes / Shurikens travel at the same speed as Madara's Magatamas. Onoki and Gaara countered them with Golem and Sand Shield, and Kakashi himself erected a Doton wall to protect himself against them. That's how fast his Kamui is.

It's also quite consistent with what we have seen. Unless something is not small, or doesn't land straight into the Warp Point, it's not instant or quickly warped away.

- The latest chapter even showed that Kakashi cannot warp anything behind any barrier. Just like he couldn't warp Jubi-Madara away and only managed to cut off a clean circular portion to reveal the Juubi's Jin. Anything from the fanboys is pure fan-fiction.

- Had Sakura not interfered, Sasuke would have ended him there and then. The fool was stumbling around. Also, by feats, Obito's Intangibility Initiation is far superior to even his own Kamui, which even Karin couldn't detect. She thought Sasuke had simply vanished inside the Jinton Tech.

- EMS Sasuke in any form outright obliterates Kakashi. What a joke NB is.

Lel Sasuke fanboys terrible as ever. Sasuke has nothing on Kakashi

Amaterasu is nothing against a Kamui user [ ] [ ] [ ]

Arrows(best Susanoo offense) are useless against a Kamui user [ ] [ ] And Kakashi didn't even have his MS activated when the arrows were already approaching point blank

Kamui can warp far bigger targets than Sasuke's Susanoo [ ]

Sasuke has no chance in this fight
It's because of Kakashi's blindness. Latest chapter confirmed it

No matter how many times you use those scans, they always show how laughable your logic is. The data book states 'why', and this guy has already reached a conclusion. Obito fell back, his entire right-upper side by that time was engulfed in flames, he was screaming, and yet, his clothes were intact. Man, is there a Chihuahua barking up there in place of brain cells, or what?
 

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Kakashi seemed pretty confident that he would be able to kill Sasuke, even after seeing Complete Susano'o.
 

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Lel Sasuke fanboys terrible as ever. Sasuke has nothing on Kakashi

Amaterasu is nothing against a Kamui user [ ] [ ] [ ]

Arrows(best Susanoo offense) are useless against a Kamui user [ ] [ ] And Kakashi didn't even have his MS activated when the arrows were already approaching point blank

Kamui can warp far bigger targets than Sasuke's Susanoo [ ]

Sasuke has no chance in this fight
It's because of Kakashi's blindness. Latest chapter confirmed it

Thanks Bogard..I wasn't sure if tobi used kamui when sasuke used amaterasu on him..but I'm guessing this is from Kishi's DB..if so then Amaterasu is useless against Kakashi
 

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Checked Tobi's character page in the DB and from the way Kishi explained it, Obito used Kamui..the scan on the page where it was explained, shows tobi using Kamui, well not on amaterasu but clearly it's kinda obivous
 
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