Kakashi vs Orochimaru (read first)

[lanakau888]

Current Kakashi vs Healthy orochimaru
Location: Where naruto and bee fought itachi and nagato
Mindset: IC
Knowledge: Manga
Restrictions:
- Edo tensei

Additional factors:
- Manda is still alive, so orochimaru can use him
- no Manda 2
- Kakashi can summon Cerebrus
- Kakashi has zabuza's beheader sword


Note: A healthy orochimaru is oro's physical condition before he fought sarutobi

Who wins?

 

[Zaxelzero]

I still see Kakashi winning this one.
He has a thousand Jutsu in his arsenal i'm sure more then a few are forbidden and just as powerful as Ori's.

 

[Capn FlapJak]

i think

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[Gildarts Clive]

lol, at this thread. :rofl:

kakashi has said it himself multiple times, if he went up against any of the 3 legendary sannin he would most surely die. he is way out of there league.

 

[lanakau888]

lol, at this thread. :rofl:

kakashi has said it himself multiple times, if he went up against any of the 3 legendary sannin he would most surely die. he is way out of there league.

sir, when was the last time he has said that? What, part 1? Since part 2, he is way stronger, has much more chakra reserves, has kamui, and I have given him significant powerups in this fight on top of that while restricting orochimaru's edo.

You should read the op first before making a post based completely off the thread's title which even has "read first" in it.

 

[Owarij]

sir, when was the last time he has said that? What, part 1? Since part 2, he is way stronger, has much more chakra reserves, has kamui, and I have given him significant powerups in this fight on top of that while restricting orochimaru's edo.

You should read the op first before making a post based completely off the thread's title which even has "read first" in it.

actually kakashi hasnt gotten way stronger... databook says he made a .5 .5 in intelligence and .5 in speed increase in taijutsu and that is it, that coupled with kamui, which btw wont do oro any good, seeing that he can regenerate body parts, so yea kaakshi's statement in part 1 still stands, unless you think those .5 's is enough to win? his improve ment is a total of 1.5 only , so that's definitely not way stronger.... people like naruto who moved from 14 to 26 is way improving

 

[lanakau888]

actually kakashi hasnt gotten way stronger... databook says he made a .5 .5 in intelligence and .5 in speed increase in taijutsu and that is it, that coupled with kamui, which btw wont do oro any good, seeing that he can regenerate body parts, so yea kaakshi's statement in part 1 still stands, unless you think those .5 's is enough to win? his improve ment is a total of 1.5 only , so that's definitely not way stronger.... people like naruto who moved from 14 to 26 is way improving

When was the last databook published? In 2008, three years ago, Kakashi has gotten a lot stronger since then.

And a direct contradiction in the databook vs the manga is kakashi's stamina.
He could only use 4 raikiris per day in part 1, yet against deva he uses a mud wall, 3 raikiris, a raikiri clone and a raikiri wolf and after all of this he says he has around half of his chakra left.
So if kakashi's stamina has more than doubled since part 1, yet the databook says that his stamina has stayed the same.

So the databook numbers are definitely not a good way to judge kakashi's growth.

 

[Owarij]

When was the last databook published? In 2008, three years ago, Kakashi has gotten a lot stronger since then.

And a direct contradiction in the databook vs the manga is kakashi's stamina.
He could only use 4 raikiris per day in part 1, yet against deva he uses a mud wall, 3 raikiris, a raikiri clone and a raikiri wolf and after all of this he says he has around half of his chakra left.

So the databook numbers are definitely not a good way to judge kakashi's growth.

lol i still dont think kakashi has what it takes to kill a pseudo immortal like orochimrau. who was able to play with 4 tailed naruto, something jiraya can't do, he got cut in half regenerated then shrugged it off , with his hands he's even more of a beast... kakashi is strong but not on his level

 

[lanakau888]

lol i still dont think kakashi has what it takes to kill a pseudo immortal like orochimrau. who was able to play with 4 tailed naruto, something jiraya can't do, he got cut in half regenerated then shrugged it off , with his hands he's even more of a beast... kakashi is strong but not on his level

Yet if the fight continued, orochimaru had no way of damaging the four-tails, and he would have to consistantly use oral rebirth which consumes a massive amount of chakra. If fourtails wasn't detained by yamato, orochimaru would have eventually died.

And jiraiya most likely wasn't even in sage mode against fourtails, and his intent was to save naruto rather than harm him.

A hit to orochimaru's head is death for oro. Oro cannot use edo in this fight, kakashi has kamui and he has zabuza's sword which is > oro's sword when it has raikiri running through it.

Also lets not forget that kakashi has cerebrus, which oro has no way of killing.

 

[Owarij]

Yet if the fight continued, orochimaru had no way of damaging the four-tails, and he would have to consistantly use oral rebirth which consumes a massive amount of chakra. If fourtails wasn't detained by yamato, orochimaru would have eventually died.

And jiraiya most likely wasn't even in sage mode against fourtails, and his intent was to save naruto rather than harm him.

A hit to orochimaru's head is death for oro. Oro cannot use edo in this fight, kakashi has kamui and he has zabuza's sword which is > oro's sword when it has raikiri running through it.

Also lets not forget that kakashi has cerebrus, which oro has no way of killing.

manda is like 5x the size of cerebus, he's a snake he doesnt have to slice it just strangle it , or swallow it alive

the kusunagi blade > lightning infused zabuza blade

kusunagi blade even cut throught emna, who was made of diamond..

 

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kakashi!!!!

 

[Hyperion]

Considering the circumstances, I still see this in Orochimaru's favour.

 

[FloriGlori]

Orochimaru all the way, even if it wouldn't be that much of a child play. I don't see how Zabuza's sword gives Kakashi any advantage, since physicall attacks are nearly useless against Orochimaru. And what is.. Cerebrus?

 

[lanakau888]

Orochimaru all the way, even if it wouldn't be that much of a child play. I don't see how Zabuza's sword gives Kakashi any advantage, since physicall attacks are nearly useless against Orochimaru. And what is.. Cerebrus?

Physical attacks are useful against oro. It forces him to use oral rebirth which is a massive chakra consuming techninque.

And orochimaru will die if he is hit in the head.

Cerebrus is Pain's multiheaded dog that splits the more times you attack it.

manda is like 5x the size of cerebus, he's a snake he doesnt have to slice it just strangle it , or swallow it alive

the kusunagi blade > lightning infused zabuza blade

kusunagi blade even cut throught emna, who was made of diamond..

Manda aint five times the size of cerebrus, and against cerebrus size doesn't really matter. Strangling will cause cerebrus to split just like katsuya did against manda.

Kusanagi blade < lightnint infused zabuza blade. A lightning blade is stronger than anyblade that doesn't have raiton. Kusanagi fails to pierce four-tails cloak, while sasuke's chidori spear which is weaker than his lightning infused sword cut off one of the hachibi's tails.

And it can't cut through enma, it is just sore for him to get hit with it.

 

[itachi49]

it would be a close fight and would be a great ninjutsu fight.
they both are master in ninjutsu hard to decide .
kakashi got raiton ,suiton ,doton and katon (only in anime) and more than 1000 jutsus ,since his chakra reserve got better i think he can exploite more of his others jutsus.
so he should do something against orochimaru's Yamata no Jutsu , zabuza sword may help there.
furthermore orochimaru is by far weaker than kakashi in taijutsu but he's solid ,even tsunade's punches couln't kill him lol.
it woud be extremelly close because of all orochimaru's annoying all his summons that could disturb kakashi and spend chakra for nothing,kakashi need some big summons too ,it's extremelly useful,i'm surprised that he don't have a big summons, btw nice idea about Cerebrus ,a big summons jutsu can make the difference.

hard to say ,but the actual kakashi should win this time.

 

[FloriGlori]

Physical attacks are useful against oro. It forces him to use oral rebirth which is a massive chakra consuming techninque.

And orochimaru will die if he is hit in the head.

Cerebrus is Pain's multiheaded dog that splits the more times you attack it.

Sorry, but I have to disagree.
Something as simple as a sword will only 'force' him to use

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little trick. I doubt that Kakashi could even kill him once. It's not like the rebirth-technique is the only strong aspect about Orochimaru.

Ah, all right. Did I miss something, or since when is that hellhound called Cerebrus?
Anyway, the hellhound itself won't settle the fight.
Since Kishi never draws a summoning uniformly in terms of size it's hard to say how much bigger Manda is - but it's clear that he is way bigger. Snakes are known to devour huge pray. If Tsunade hadn't interrupt, Manda would've even

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. Jiraiya used a stomach to stop the dog, so it should work in this case, too. If the dog ist directly devoured, without being otherwisely attacked, it can't split up. Even if it would manage to do so; Orochimaru has more than enough snakes to keep the dog occupied.

 

[Majora]

Kakashi with extreme difficulity..

 

[MMaElite]

I still see Kakashi winning this one.
He has a thousand Jutsu in his arsenal i'm sure more then a few are forbidden and just as powerful as Ori's.

he claims he has 1000 jutsus, yet we see him use about 8 at the most lol.. orochimaru wins this.. he could have beatin the 3rd hokage... i doubt kakashi is even on that level yet

 

[Shinozgr8]

nah...orochimaru takes this...i mean...even with Cerberus...oro can still summon a couple more snakes to make up for it. taijutsu isn't a good idea with oro, since he can seal off chakra. kakashi's stamina is nowhere near oro's. kakashi COULD NOT survive against 4 tails like oro did. if oro thought he'd die against 4 tails, he'd escape before it could happen. i mean, he used his shields against naruto's attack and still survived. if he knew he'd die, he would've dodged long time ago.
meanwhile. oro would still take this.

 

[Shinozgr8]

aaaaannnddd kakashi is scared SHIT of orochimaru. he couldn't move from fear lmaox when he saw him. although it wouldn't happen again i mean...geez
kakashi<jiraiya<oro