Kakashi vs Itachi

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First Scenario Itachi wins

Second, With Full intel? I wouldn't count Itachi out that [easily . There are still options to counter kamui, since it is an ocular jutsu that requires the use of eyesight and focusing on a target.. Itachi right of the bat can drop a smoke bomb or two and make it impossible for Kakashi to see him. From there, his only real option would be to activate Susanno and start using the environment to his advantage by caving in the summit building with Susanno
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The dust created from the destruction will only aid Itachi's situation as it makes him harder to see... Not to mention kakashi will have to deal with the huge blocks falling on him... Ontop of that Itachi can to barrage Kakashi with and keep him occupied .... while shooting out a quick succession of Yasaka Magatama and directed Shruiken/ Kunai attacks from behind the thick cover...

he has his chances, if he plays the battle smart, which he is ... A full intel Itachi isn't just going to stand up in the wide open and get Kamui'd..

Nonetheless, Kakashi has the much bigger chances in this Scenario


*Not even going to get into that tiring debate of whether Yata can block Kamui or not
 

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According to new developments.. itachi can use susanno in base.. that's the only reason why he would win.

But ms kakashi one shots him.
 

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- Time and time again sharingan users have been placed under genjutsu, visual and non-visual.

Tell me when it ever worked.

An Edo Itachi couldn't hit Bee, who doesn't have a Sharingan that can see through genjutsu.

Bee was PLACED under Genjutsu and Hachibi broke it before Itachi could hit him.

Kakashi will not be phased at all.

Also I'm getting tired of the Itachi genjutsu wank.

Kakashi tied with Obito in genjutsu, who is better at genjutsu than Itachi.

Deal with it and stop fanboying.

-At the obito part.
Clearly kakashi recognizes it is a genjutsu, sees through it and breaks it. Look at obito.

Kakashi wasn't placed under genjutsu, he was fighting Obito's genjutsu with his own.

'' Let's stop with the genjutsu ''.

'' Let's ''

Anyone with basic english understanding realises they were -both- using genjutsu, because ''Let's'' is plural.

I'm getting tired of explaining, are you done?
 

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Kakashi wins both I donnt se Itachi wining here.
 

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First Scenario Itachi wins

Second, With Full intel? I wouldn't count Itachi out that [easily . There are still options to counter kamui, since it is an ocular jutsu that requires the use of eyesight and focusing on a target.. Itachi right of the bat can drop a smoke bomb or two and make it impossible for Kakashi to see him. From there, his only real option would be to activate Susanno and start using the environment to his advantage by caving in the summit building with Susanno
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The dust created from the destruction will only aid Itachi's situation as it makes him harder to see... Not to mention kakashi will have to deal with the huge blocks falling on him... Ontop of that Itachi can to barrage Kakashi with and keep him occupied .... while shooting out a quick succession of Yasaka Magatama and directed Shruiken/ Kunai attacks from behind the thick cover...

he has his chances, if he plays the battle smart, which he is ... A full intel Itachi isn't just going to stand up in the wide open and get Kamui'd..

Nonetheless, Kakashi has the much bigger chances in this Scenario


*Not even going to get into that tiring debate of whether Yata can block Kamui or not

I need to see that scan of Itachi using smoke bombs lol.
 

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Itachi imho is the only answer.... My mind is boggled at those who chose otherwise. O_O
 

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That isn't a smoke bomb, its Shunshin residue. Whenever a character uses Shunshin, .
 

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That isn't a smoke bomb, its Shunshin residue. Whenever a character uses Shunshin, .

It is a smoke bomb, that according the databook, Ninja use to conceal their movements when using shunshin .. Normal shunshin has nothing to do with smoke and has been used multiple times in the manga without it

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Smoke bombs are a Ninja's basic equipment morons.
 

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What will smoke do against Kakashi, again?
 

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He won't be able to focus Kamui on his body. Then, he appears above Kakashi like above Bee and Naruto, summons crows which will block his vision and attacks with Susanoo or goes in close combat to use Tsukuyomi with direct eye contact.
 
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It is a smoke bomb, that according the databook, Ninja use to conceal their movements when using shunshin .. Normal shunshin has nothing to do with smoke and has been used multiple times in the manga without it


And it has just as many usages with it.







 

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Itachi activated Susano'o before an already travelling Kirin hit him. There's really no proof that he can't activate a V3 Susano'o in such a little amount of time since activating Susano'o is just using Chakra to make it. He just uses up a bit more Chakra, not to mention he'll see Chakra building up in Kakashi's eye.

Either way, Dusk Crow Genjutsu puts Itachi under a Genjutsu before he even realizes what's going on and then this ends with a speedblitz and Kakashi's head rolling under his feet before he even realizes that he is in a Genjutsu or thinks about breaking out of it.​

No, AkatsukiChurch. Itachi couldn't have possibly used the Complete Susano'o to defend against Kirin given the time it takes his Susano'o to gain flesh and armor then to surface the legendary weapons; Kirin would have already made Impact prior to that. Also, If he did use Yata to defend against it he wouldn't have suffered any damage.

Also, Yata cannot guard against Kamui. Yata no Kagami as a shield according to the databook and as a shield defends against attack's trying to breech it's defenses...Kamui doesn't function this way. It is a curvature of Space and time, rivaling a hypothetical wormhole----to another dimension.

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It would warp the literal space around the shield and transfer it to the Dimension.

OT: Itachi wins scenario 1 and Kakashi could only take scenario 2 with high difficulty due to the fact that Kamui can work at extended ranges, actually it could go either way and is solely subjective to the actual combat scenario but as Owarij said Itachi isn't being hit by Kamui easily. Kakashi has to gather the necessary chakra and focus on the target to initiate Kamui, if he attempts to use Kamui on Itachi at short range he would be caught in Genjutsu and finished off.
 

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No, AkatsukiChurch. Itachi couldn't have possibly used the Complete Susano'o to defend against Kirin given the time it takes his Susano'o to gain flesh and armor then to surface the legendary weapons; Kirin would have already made Impact prior to that. Also, If he did use Yata to defend against it he wouldn't have suffered any damage.

Also, Yata cannot guard against Kamui. Yata no Kagami as a shield according to the databook and as a shield defends against attack's trying to breech it's defenses...Kamui doesn't function this way. It is a curvature of Space and time, rivaling a hypothetical wormhole----to another dimension.

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It would warp the literal space around the shield and transfer it to the Dimension.

That seems fair enough. I never really did know much about Kamui despite being an Obito fan.​
 

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He won't be able to focus Kamui on his body. Then, he appears above Kakashi like above Bee and Naruto, summons crows which will block his vision and attacks with Susanoo or goes in close combat to use Tsukuyomi with direct eye contact.

Cool and all, but a bloodlusted Kakashi will warp him instantly, Itachi will never reach for the bomb.
 

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And it has just as many usages with it.








You are seeing the difference between all the scans you're linking and what happened with Itachi right? No ones movement has ever created a puff of smoke bigger than themselves before.. It is obviously a smoke bomb
 

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The scan you initially showed only features smoke in the bottom right corner of an already miniscule panel. You cannot see the full size of the smoke to judge its actual size.
 
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