Kakashi vs Itachi (No sharingan, or sharingan related techniques)

[AGoodBoy]

Itachi still has **** Riders. Kakashi is on par with Guy's regular Taijutsu, so Kakashi would beat Itachi in a 1v1 close combat fight. Kakashi has more techniques than Itachi, and more experience. All Itachi really has Shurikenjutsu, Katon, and better than average Taijutsu Skills.
- Without Genjutsu, Itachi isn't winning this fight.

db gives both itachi and kakashi a 4.5 in taijutsu while itachi has a higher speed score.
You're literally the only **** rider here.

 

[ShiroT]

Its funny when everyone is saying Itachi when he has no feats without his Sharigan.

yea they let him in the anbu for the heck of it

 

[Owarij]

Kakashi is on par with Guy's regular Taijutsu, so Kakashi would beat Itachi in a 1v1 close combat

He isn't . And they both are tied for 4.5 in Taijutsu while Gai has a solid 5.

 

[Princessu Kaaantchan]

And you know that doesn't require speed to use, creating a tunnel vision effect similar to Raikiri?

You can't complain about a lack of feats with one character while posting assumptions using a lack of feats for the character you support.

It's applying Raiton Chakra to a Kunai.

Well it's pretty equal on both sides, and I did mention how both have no reaction feats to support them. It is a pretty bad matchup simply because there's too much speculation.

 

[The Necromancer]

It's applying Raiton Chakra to a Kunai.

Well it's pretty equal on both sides, and I did mention how both have no reaction feats to support them. It is a pretty bad matchup simply because there's too much speculation.

Genjutsu -> Shuriken -> Water Dragon

I don't see Kakashi's counter to Genjutsu off the bat.

Hell, with Kakashi's inability to see Itachi's hand signs, clones are enough to handle kakashi at this point.

 

[Shadow Phantasm]

Itachi still has **** Riders. Kakashi is on par with Guy's regular Taijutsu, so Kakashi would beat Itachi in a 1v1 close combat fight. Kakashi has more techniques than Itachi, and more experience. All Itachi really has Shurikenjutsu, Katon, and better than average Taijutsu Skills.
- Without Genjutsu, Itachi isn't winning this fight.

Shuriken mastery,fast hand signs,crow genjutsu,Katon techs,and plenty more show Itachi beating Kakashi.

 

[RedRobin]

yea they let him in the anbu for the heck of it

Yeah and Kakahsi was a jounin before he ever got his sharingan, What exactly are you trying to say?

 

[Owarij]

Yeah and Kakahsi was a jounin before he ever got his sharingan, What exactly are you trying to say?

A Jonin quickly promoted to a rank too soon because war time required ninjas on the battle fronts. He could barely hold his own against another jonin level ninjas and would have gotten himself killed several times without aid.

While Itachi defeated 3 jonin level Uchiha police officers with ease , with just speed and taijutsu at the same age

 

[ShiroT]

Yeah and Kakahsi was a jounin before he ever got his sharingan, What exactly are you trying to say?

im saying a sharingan-less itachi isnt featless and if your going to ignore all of his feats just to give kakashi a boast(who also only fights with his sharingan) then dont debate

 

[RedRobin]

A Jonin quickly promoted to a rank too soon because war time required ninjas on the battle fronts. He could barely hold his own against another jonin level ninjas and would have gotten himself killed several times without aid.

While Itachi defeated 3 jonin level Uchiha police officers with ease , with just speed and taijutsu at the same age

He was trying out a technique. Again look at the age different there.

im saying a sharingan-less itachi isnt featless and if your going to ignore all of his feats just to give kakashi a boast(who also only fights with his sharingan) then dont debate

I am not ignoring his feats but he hardly has any if you take away his sharingan. You never have never seen his taijustu without his sharingan but he still defeats Kakashi without it. Also he just puts Kakashi in these genjustus right when they only caught Naruto.

 

[Owarij]

He was trying out a technique. Again look at the age different there.

You brought up him becoming a Jonin before having sharingan. He was 12 or 13. Itachi was also 12 when he did that feat. They have been on complete different levels since birth

 

[ShiroT]

He was trying out a technique. Again look at the age different there.



I am not ignoring his feats but he hardly has any if you take away his sharingan. You never have never seen his taijustu without his sharingan but he still defeats Kakashi without it. Also he just puts Kakashi in these genjustus right when they only caught Naruto.

name somebody kakashi has beat in tai without his sharingan go ahead i'll wait. and its a finger genjutsu the point of a fight it to be alert and to see everything to counter it. Yes anybody could get caught in a finger jutsu just because they are paying attention to stay alive. So yes just because naruto got caught in it doesnt mean kakashi wont.

 

[Chie]

The databook compares characters at their base w/o enhancements and Itachi has a higher score than Kakashi. That and Itachi just has better feats in general. Itachi wins this. U_U

 

[Dannie]

I don't think I ever seen a base Itachi in action but I still think he wins this one.

 

[Conspirator.]

itachi wins-he is capable of genjutsus without the sharingan, and while kakashi wastes time breaking the genjutsu, he gets blitzed.

 

[Gaara Of The Death]

Lol Why are Kakshi fans trying to debate this, Owarij ended this ages ago. ​

 

[Phonas]

Itachi was barely 13 when he mopped the floor with 3 full-fledged Uchihas simultaneously via speed and Taijutsu.

 

[RedRobin]

You brought up him becoming a Jonin before having sharingan. He was 12 or 13. Itachi was also 12 when he did that feat. They have been on complete different levels since birth

Has it been stated he was 12 at that time? Kakashi became a jounin around 11 because Obito became a chunin at 11. Yeah Kakashi graduated from the academy at 6 while Itachi at 7.

name somebody kakashi has beat in tai without his sharingan go ahead i'll wait. and its a finger genjutsu the point of a fight it to be alert and to see everything to counter it. Yes anybody could get caught in a finger jutsu just because they are paying attention to stay alive. So yes just because naruto got caught in it doesnt mean kakashi wont.

I never said Kakashi has feats in taijustu without his sharingan aside from the fact that he became a joinin and didnt even have a sharingan. But still they both dont have any feats in taijustu but Itachi still wins, makes no sense. Naruto got caught in it because he was trying not to look into Itachi's eyes, and looked at his finger. No sharingans here, Kakahsi wont have that problems.

 

[Phonas]

Has it been stated he was 12 at that time? Kakashi became a jounin around 11 because Obito became a chunin at 11. Yeah Kakashi graduated from the academy at 6 while Itachi at 7.

And Itachi entered the Anbu corps at the age of 10, automatically making him a Jonin. Therefore, Itachi became a Jonin at a younger age than Kakashi did.

 

[RedRobin]

And Itachi entered the Anbu corps at the age of 10, automatically making him a Jonin. Therefore, Itachi became a Jonin at a younger age than Kakashi did.

Yeah and he had the sharingan at 8. Kakashi made it to Jounin without a Sharingan.