Kakashi vs Hebi Sasuke

Who wins?

  • Kakashi

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  • Sasuke

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This is Current Kakashi vs Hebi Sasuke, who do you think wins.

EDIT: Scenario 2: MS Sasuke, Susanoo restricted.
 
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Knowing Sasuke, he'd go all out. Kakashi sends shadow clones to test ability and skill. Sasuke would try to end the battle quickly (and quite effectively) soooo he'd waste energy. Once Kakashi's content (so to speak) he could seriously engage a weakened Sasuke and defeat him. I say Current Kakashi. I just can't see Sasuke winning
 

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Hebi Sasuke wins. First 2 post were from giant Kakashi fanboys. They are both very similar but Sasuke's curse Mark powers wins this. If Sasuke really want to troll, he can summon Manda. Sasuke already has superior stamina coupled with curse mark will give him superior speed and strength as well. The only thing giving Kakashi a chance is Kamui and he has no feats of sucking in a person.
 
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Sasuke in 3 tomoe can win. He has more chakra than Kakashi who has always had stamina issues, especially after using a few raikiri or kamuis. Sasuke on the other hand throughout Shippuden seems to be able to spam lightning/fire techniques, or after fighting multiple kages for a while.
 
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Kakashi wins the first one with High diff.

Ms sasuke would beat kakashi, Unless he stands still inside susanoo and gets kamui'ed
 

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Why does everyone think that Hebi Sasuke is a fodder? Just to give you a perspective how Hebi Sasuke's feats compare with Kakashi's, well firstly, Sasuke put up a better fight against Deidara than did Kakashi despite Sasuke being at a disadvantage compared to Kakashi in that particular battle. Sasuke's performance against Itachi, a superior opponent to Kakuzu shits on Kakashi's performance against Kakuzu. Although current Kakashi is much stronger which is why the fight would be so close.

Since you failed to restrict kamui, Kakashi wins both scenarios but I think Hebi Sasuke>3 tomoe Kakashi. Remember how Sasuke forced Itachi to resort to his MS? I think the same thing would happen in this scenario.
 

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I think Kamui is a little overrated as far as Kakashi is concerned. People seem to confuse Kakashi's kamui with Obito's. Kakashi has a very hard time using kamui. Notice he didn't use it against Hidan or Kakuzu even when the situation was getting desperate because he knows how bad the after effects are on him. Kakashi is exceptionally smart in battle and has used it to protect himself a few times. But other than that, he has never just gone up to an opponent and sucked them in like Tobi does.

Kakashi really is not on that elite elite tier like people try to believe he is. Pre Sage Mode Naruto stomped Kakuzu immediately, while Kakashi was getting hammered by him.

Hebi Sasuke went toe to toe with Itachi. His genjutsu was able to counter Itachis and he has far better lightning ninjutsu than Kakashi has. Plus he has kenjutsu and the curse mark. His chakra just completely dwarfs Kakashis. LOL @ people thinking Sasuke is going to blow all his chakra on Kakashi's kage bunshin. Remember Sasuke beat the crap out of Naruto in Part one when Naruto was using Tajuu Kage Bunshin. Plus Sasuke already said he could see through Kage Bunshin. And not only that, one katon technique which takes like no chakra from sasuke completely fodderizes bunshins haha.
 

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Hebi Sasuke wins. First 2 post were from giant Kakashi fanboys. They are both very similar but Sasuke's curse Mark powers wins this. If Sasuke really want to troll, he can summon Manda. Sasuke already has superior stamina coupled with curse mark will give him superior speed and strength as well. The only thing giving Kakashi a chance is Kamui and he has no feats of sucking in a person.
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Even did it quickly enough for Tobi not to notice.

Having superior stamina is debatable with current Kakashi. Even using a theory that his chakra was replenished by the kyuubi cloak before he started spamming kamui, he had still fought the 7 swordsmen, an army of Zetsu clones, bijuu and was going to attempt to warp the TBBs away.

Speed, even with Sasuke using CS2 is close enough to where it doesn't much matter.

Manda is probably the biggest issue for Kakashi in the fight, but that can be taken care of with raiden.

If Kakashi's pushed in to a corner, he can use kamui, but I think a strong case can be made for him not even needing it.
 
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Location-Madara vs Kages

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This is Current Kakashi vs Hebi Sasuke, who do you think wins.

EDIT: Scenario 2: MS Sasuke, Susanoo restricted.
Current Kakashi beats both. Hebi Sasuke's biggest threat is Manda, but lightning transmission will slice him in half. Kirin can be kamui'd since Kakashi can Kamui at instant speeds (he kamui'd the nail pain shot at him without it being noticed by pain. Kamui'd 2 super fast Susanoo arrows from Sasuke. And kamui'd an entire Naruto clone with Tobi's Sharingan noticing).

MS Sasuke without Susanoo can't beat current Kakashi, Susanoo was his only way of winning. Kakashi isn't going to get hit by Amaterasu, even Sasuke escaped Itachis Susanoo. Amaterasu drains Sasuke way more than Kamui drains current Kakashi.

Susanoo Sasuke would probably win though. Unless Kakashi runs away and lets him waste chakra. Sasuke would still probs win though.
 

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Kakashi really is not on that elite elite tier like people try to believe he is. Pre Sage Mode Naruto stomped Kakuzu immediately, while Kakashi was getting hammered by him.

Hebi Sasuke went toe to toe with Itachi. His genjutsu was able to counter Itachis and he has far better lightning ninjutsu than Kakashi has. Plus he has kenjutsu and the curse mark. His chakra just completely dwarfs Kakashis. LOL @ people thinking Sasuke is going to blow all his chakra on Kakashi's kage bunshin. Remember Sasuke beat the crap out of Naruto in Part one when Naruto was using Tajuu Kage Bunshin. Plus Sasuke already said he could see through Kage Bunshin. And not only that, one katon technique which takes like no chakra from sasuke completely fodderizes bunshins haha.
You are underrating Kakashi but at least you aren't overrating him like the others. Naruto did not stomp Kakuzu, it took help from Kakashi, Yamato and Shikamaru to bring Kakuzu down. Base Naruto gets owned by a fresh Kakuzu low difficulty. Kakashi was also burdened with having to protect Ino-Shika-Cho while also fighting Hidan. I agree that Sasuke wins this unless kamui is used.
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Even did it quickly enough for Tobi not to notice.

Having superior stamina is debatable with current Kakashi. Even using a theory that his chakra was replenished by the kyuubi cloak before he started spamming kamui, he had still fought the 7 swordsmen, an army of Zetsu clones, bijuu and was going to attempt to warp the TBBs away.
I agree that Kakashi's kamui can one shot Sasuke but without it, Sasuke's chances of winning are higher. As for stamina, well Sasuke's CS2 uses up a lot of chakra and Kakashi has better chakra control than Sasuke so it is very likely that Kakashi may even have the advantage but even still, I believe Hebi Sasuke is superior to 3 tomoe Kakashi.
Speed, even with Sasuke using CS2 is close enough to where it doesn't much matter.
They are equal in speed so I agree with this. Neither side should claim they have a speed advantage.
Manda is probably the biggest issue for Kakashi in the fight, but that can be taken care of with raiden.
Easier said than done. Sasuke isn't going to stand there while Kakashi takes Manda out. It would prove to be difficult even without Sasuke interfering since Manda is giant so it would require more than one to kill it.
If Kakashi's pushed in to a corner, he can use kamui, but I think a strong case can be made for him not even needing it.
Go ahead make a case for him. This match up is pretty interesting but since kamui isn't restricted, I didn't want to make a case for Sasuke but I'd like to hear from you.
Amaterasu drains Sasuke way more than Kamui drains current Kakashi.
This is wrong since Sasuke being an Uchiha can use MS longer than Kakashi. Reread Sasuke VS Danzo, Sasuke used amaterasu like three times and he maintained susanoo for more than five minutes.
Do you Even Know me to Say im a Fanboy ? What a NB these day , You make an Opinion , ***ggs come from everywhere .
You aren't a fan boy but you didn't back your opinion properly and it is kind of flawed. Still Bogard is a huge Kakashi fan boy so Shyarkugan has a right at calling him one.
 

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I don't understand people who think that Hebi Sasuke has more stamina than current Kakashi. Just to make you remember, CS doesn't increase chakra. In the contrary, sound4 said that CS takes a lot chakra. Remember that against Deidara at the end of the fight, he was out of chakra, against Itachi, he was out of chakra also(even before him). Current Kakashi was able to fight during 2days powerful opponents like the most fiercefull 7swordsmen in Kirigakure history, plus white Zetsus, come to help Naruto fighting 5Tailed Beast, then Gedo Mazo and Tobi before collapsing a bit after spamming a lot of Raikiris, plus something like 5Kamui. So just that shows that in comparison to Hebi Sasuke, Kakashi has much more chakra than him.

Furthermore, he can spamm much more Raikiris than before. I don't really know Hebi Sasukes limit, but i think he didn't use more than 3chidori against Deidara, not more than 3 also against Itachi, and some katon and genjutsu and he was already out of chakra. In this war, Kakashi used at least 8 or 9Raikiris. And just to tell, Raikiri is more powerful than Chidori, stated in the manga and databook. We've seen he was even able to cut through multiple boulders with a Raikiri infused in a kunai. Sasuke on the other side has some variety of raiton techniques like the chidori nagashi or chidori blade, but on the other side, Kakashi has shown a powerful raiden even able to cut through V2 Jinchurikis tails that not even Orochimarus original Kusanagi could hurt, he has also shown a lightning wolf which seems to have a great range, a lightning clone that paralyses the ennemy and what he uses almost everytime flawlessly(so Sasuke could be caught by surprised).

And that's only about raiton that i'm talking about. Besides from that, Hebi Sasuke has some powerful katon techniques, but Kakashi has also powerful suiton techniques even able to counter a combo of Kakuzus fuuton technique, plus katon technique, and just to make you remember, Kakuzu fuuton technique alone was able to destroy a great part of the forest where they were fighting, but Kakashi managed to stop with his suiton, not only even that but in a combo with a katon technique

Kakashi also has his doton techniques with 8huge gates to protect himself against some attacks or to screw the ennemy. He can also manage to travel through the earth with another doton technique, to avoid attacks or/and catch the ennemy from underground like he did against Itachis katon for example

He is also better than Sasuke in taijutsu, and when we add the fact that he is probably one of the best kage bunshin user in this manga, plus his incredible intellect(eventhough Sasuke was also really intelligent at that moment), there is no way he can lose to Hebi Sasuke, and i don't even count Kamui in the equation

The only problem i can see is maybe summons but Sasuke can't control Manda, so it won't make a difference

Current Kakashi is just on another level compared to Hebi Sasuke even without kamui.

In scenario2, it will even be more easier if you ask me. That version of Sasuke was even weaker than Hebi Sasuke since he didn't had CS anymore which helped him to fly, to protect himself, etc. Hebi Sasuke was also smarter. The only advantage he has is Amaterasu which is an instant technique, but Kakashi has Kage Bunshins or Kamui to counter it. Kakashi has in the contrary all the advantages i stated in scenario1, smarter, better in ninjutsu, taijutsu, and if Sasuke doesn't even have Susanoo to protect himself, he is finished. Maybe Kamui is not even needed
 
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