Kakashi vs Hashirama

[choft]

I said his speed is on par
Strongfist does>Tsunade

Tsunade taijutsu isnt great, it got her defeated by part 1 kabuto:shrug:

If you read some of the other post you would see the counters idiot

Nope, you made no counter to an incoming forest. You only made a counter to pollen (which I don't think will work anyway) and to BOD.

You still haven't said how Kakashi can beat Hashirama. Counters doesn't mean he can defeat Hashirama, it just means it stops his techniques.

 

[yuan of cruxis]

And even assuming Kakashi could do all those things Yuan of Craxis claims, it still doesn't explain how Kakashi would defeat Hashirama because he can self heal.

Healing would require chakra of course, but you know he cant heal kamui, or lightning cutter could cut off a arm or two

It never said he could regenerated an entire body part, only cuts and wounds

 

[choft]

Healing would require chakra of course, but you know he cant heal kamui, or lightning cutter could cut off a arm or two

It never said he could regenerated an entire body part, only cuts and wounds

You're just assuming that Hashirama is going to stand there and let him cut him? Hashirama is pro in taijutsu too you know.

And what if Kakashi misses Hashirama with Kamui?

 

[Bogard]

You're just assuming that Hashirama is going to stand there and let him cut him? Hashirama is pro in taijutsu too you know.

And what if Kakashi misses Hashirama with Kamui?

Why will he necessarly miss?

 

[yuan of cruxis]

Nope, you made no counter to an incoming forest. You only made a counter to pollen (which I don't think will work anyway) and to BOD.

You still haven't said how Kakashi can beat Hashirama. Counters doesn't mean he can defeat Hashirama, it just means it stops his techniques.

Your have not counterr the things i said either, about the hidden mist and silent killing tech=Cut off head

Kamui=completely finished

And to the incoming forest he could use a hidden mist jutsu to cover himself up while making a water or shadow clone to go underground(Hashirama wouldnt see this cause of the mist. And the clone could appear out of the ground and Kamui or cut his head off

At the same time the real Kakashi could use a fire ball tech to destroy the incoming wood

But the fight ended the second the clone went underground to get behind hashirama to kill him.
Seeing as how hashirama wouldve been distracted by the real kakashi

And the range the clone is behind Hashirama kamui wouldnt miss

 

[choft]

Why will he necessarly miss?

With Kamui? Kakashi doesn't have 100% accuracy. It's not a 100% guarentee, like the time he tried to hit Deidara.

Keep in mind, that I already said that if Kakashi does hit Hashirama with Kamui, then it's GG to Kakashi, but that's the only way he can beat him.

 

[choft]

Your have not counterr the things i said either, about the hidden mist and silent killing tech=Cut off head

Kamui=completely finished

And to the incoming forest he could use a hidden mist jutsu to cover himself up while making a water or shadow clone to go underground(Hashirama wouldnt see this cause of the mist. And the clone could appear out of the ground and Kamui or cut his head off

At the same time the real Kakashi could use a fire ball tech to destroy the incoming wood

But the fight ended the second the clone went underground to get behind hashirama to kill him.
Seeing as how hashirama wouldve been distracted by the real kakashi

Lol, that's specific. I seriously don't see how this will beat Hashirama. Hashirama can create clones too so the whole thing will fail. Except Kamui, I still can't see how Kakashi can win. Eventually, Kakashi is going to run out of chakra and then Hashirama wins as we know that Hashirama has a far greater chakra reserve than Kakashi.

 

[Bogard]

With Kamui? Kakashi doesn't have 100% accuracy. It's not a 100% guarentee, like the time he tried to hit Deidara.

Keep in mind, that I already said that if Kakashi does hit Hashirama with Kamui, then it's GG to Kakashi, but that's the only way he can beat him.

Against Deidara he couldn't control the location and size of the barrier of his jutsu very well. He said it himself. Time has past since that time. Now he has 100% accuracy with this jutsu. He kamui'd Deva's nail in an instant(he didn't even knew Kakashi kamui'd his nail cuz it wasn't visible and too fast), he kamui'd Asura's missile in movement when it was aiming at Choji really quickly, he kamui'd also Susanoo arrows in an instant

 

[choft]

Against Deidara he couldn't control the location and size of the barrier of his jutsu very well. He said it himself. Time has past since that time. Now he has 100% accuracy with this jutsu. He kamui'd Deva's nail in an instant(he didn't even knew Kakashi kamui'd his nail cuz it wasn't visible and too fast), he kamui'd Asura's missile in movement when it was aiming at Choji really quickly, he kamui'd also Susanoo arrows in an instant

The arrow and nail were coming towards him, so it's not that hard to aim at. Asura's missle was also said to be in a straight line.

I don't think it's so easy hitting Hashirama if he is moving around a lot (not in a straight line). Also he can block out Kakashi's view by growing trees in the way.

I don't think Kakashi will have 100% accuracy with Kamui but if he does hit him, as I've already said, GG for Kakashi.

 

[yuan of cruxis]

Lol, that's specific. I seriously don't see how this will beat Hashirama. Hashirama can create clones too so the whole thing will fail. Except Kamui, I still can't see how Kakashi can win. Eventually, Kakashi is going to run out of chakra and then Hashirama wins as we know that Hashirama has a far greater chakra reserve than Kakashi.

He has no counter to that clone that came behind him cause he didnt know about it
Everytime Kamui was used, Kakashi hit what he wanted to hit
He hit Deidara with it
Hit the missile from the path
Hit the susanoo arrow
Even stop deidaras explosion

So no i dont believe it would miss at a even closer range than those, while the opponent is unaware

 

[choft]

He has no counter to that clone that came behind him cause he didnt know about it
Everytime Kamui was used, Kakashi hit what he wanted to hit
He hit Deidara with it
Hit the missile from the path
Hit the susanoo arrow
Even stop deidaras explosion

So no i dont believe it would miss at a even closer range than those, while the opponent is unaware

I already explained why Kakashi could hit them with Kamui in the above post, I even explained a way he could stop Kamui. And he didn't hit Deidara with it properly.

And as for countering the clone. My point is that, Hashirama can create a clone too so when Kakashi's clone comes out, it will hit the wood clone and not Hashirama. Therefore, rendering the plan useless.

 

[Migualon J.J.]

Hidden Mist and Silent Killing, Zabuza was master of that and Kakashi was able to beat that, and Hashirama wouldn't be? O_O yeah, right, seems legit, Kamui never ever killed anyone, unless i see it KILL someone, i won't consider it being technique which can kill someone, and you make it sound like Hashirama can't make clones

 

[MickNerks]

Gai with gates can
Oonoki can with dust release
Orochimaru has a chance as well

You must not remember these character and what there capable of
Your just ridding the Hashirama wood train

hahahahahahahahaha.. ^ agree.xd

 

[SilverSlick]

Man I never knew people rode Hashirama this hard. Lets just give Kakashi a huge ass chakara reserve on this one. Then he can match him.

 

[SilverSlick]

Oh yeah, 7th or 8th gate Gai can destroy Orochimaru.

 

[Slug Princess Tsunade]

Hashirama low diff.

 

[LegendaryAce]

hashi will win this i am afraid

Man I never knew people rode Hashirama this hard. Lets just give Kakashi a huge ass chakara reserve on this one. Then he can match him.

dont understand what u mean by riding him in this particular vs ?

 

[LolaxXx]

Location-Gaara vs Kimmimaro

Intent to kill

Im giving this to Kakashi cause versaility and his counters for the 1sts woood release techs

BOD wouldnt work cause of his sense of smell and plus he has his dogs
Hashirama wouldnt be able to track Kakashi in the mist in addition to hist silent killing technique

Flowering world of trees would be no problem, Kakashi can go undergound or use his speed to get away(his is speed on par with 7th gates Guy and faster than Lee)
So he definitly can outrun the pollen
Kakashi can also use the gates

Hes also capable of using the shadow clone and water clone technique

And if comes to close range fighting, Kakashi taijutsu wise is better cause he knows strong fist like Guy and has hell veiwing technique

Hahaha, Hashirama easily beats kakashi. 1st of all, he's probabaly alot faster than kakashi.

What counters for woodstyle does kakashi have? U didnt even name them.

Also, Kakashi wasnt trained in the art of silent killing. Thats a Mist Ninja fighting tactic.

BOD wont change that fact that he is trapped in genjutsu, hashi can just make several wood clones and beat kakashi after trapping him in the genjutsu.

Kakshi goes underground? Hashirama uproots him with the trees, going underground would be a bad idea.

Outrun flower tree world? Raikage is faster than Kakashi and even he couldnt outrun it. Outrunning flower tree world is like trying to out run gaara's sand tsunami or kisame water explosion...not gonna happen. Unless your minato who can just simple teleport away.

His speed is on par with 7gates Gai? WTF? no. if that was the case, he should single handly defeat every one of his opponents with ease. No ninja's speed other than the raikage's are that fast, Itachi is faster than kakashi and he has nowhere the speed of Gai with gates unleashed.

Kakashi has shadow, water, and lightning...how many of those can he make solid? Hashi could make several solid wood clones with his high chakra levels.

As for physical strength...Hashi's strength is FAAAAAAR more powerful than gai's...he does have the senju strength, his physical body is much more powerful so he could probabaly easily tank any hit from Gai, and hits harder than tsunade, who can kill in one punch easily.

Besides, if he can take on the most powerful EMS uchiha in history...then an non-uchiha who barely has the stamina to handle ONE MS sharingan is childsplay to hashirama.

 

[Kratos of cruxis]

Hashirama ftw but I say extreme diff

 

[yuan of cruxis]

Hahaha, Hashirama easily beats kakashi. 1st of all, he's probabaly alot faster than kakashi.

What counters for woodstyle does kakashi have? U didnt even name them.

Also, Kakashi wasnt trained in the art of silent killing. Thats a Mist Ninja fighting tactic.

BOD wont change that fact that he is trapped in genjutsu, hashi can just make several wood clones and beat kakashi after trapping him in the genjutsu.

Kakshi goes underground? Hashirama uproots him with the trees, going underground would be a bad idea.

Outrun flower tree world? Raikage is faster than Kakashi and even he couldnt outrun it. Outrunning flower tree world is like trying to out run gaara's sand tsunami or kisame water explosion...not gonna happen. Unless your minato who can just simple teleport away.

His speed is on par with 7gates Gai? WTF? no. if that was the case, he should single handly defeat every one of his opponents with ease. No ninja's speed other than the raikage's are that fast, Itachi is faster than kakashi and he has nowhere the speed of Gai with gates unleashed.

Kakashi has shadow, water, and lightning...how many of those can he make solid? Hashi could make several solid wood clones with his high chakra levels.

As for physical strength...Hashi's strength is FAAAAAAR more powerful than gai's...he does have the senju strength, his physical body is much more powerful so he could probabaly easily tank any hit from Gai, and hits harder than tsunade, who can kill in one punch easily.

Besides, if he can take on the most powerful EMS uchiha in history...then an non-uchiha who barely has the stamina to handle ONE MS sharingan is childsplay to hashirama.

BOD is useless cause of the sharingan, Kakashi sense of smell or his dogs
Physical strenght wise i wouldnt say Hashirama was stronger than Gai
hashirama doesnt have the strenght of Tsunade if that what you was thinking.
Hashirama isnt a sensor so he wouldnt see Kakashi go underground especially if he use it with his hidden mist jutsu


Kamui at the right time could kill or severly leave Hashirama disabled

And Raikage didnt even try to outrun flowering world trees

Kishi is trolling the Kages, there are not doing the the things they would usually do, they are just doing the wait and see what Madara can do next phase