Kakashi vs Chouji

[Blaze Release]

Sasori cud probably lose because of Kakashi's kamui and sharingan. And speed especially if he goes gates. Tsunade I think wud lose, Konan wud lose. And until I see 2nd fight we cannot guarantee him winning. Deidara loses the same way he lost to Sasuke.

Plz stop with kamui, seriously. How many puppets can he teleport?.
Kakashi would be killed of pretty quickly against sasori and ive explained why in a vs thread, i hate repeating myself therefore ill sum it up.

Kakshi would be at the disadvantage from the start and would be fighting defensively for most of the fight. He would lose a short range fight with sasori, mid range and long range. Sasori rapes.

Tobirama also rapes. Best suiton user. S/t tech and his bringer of darkness tech.

With tsuande and konan it will go either way imo, but tsuande will show great feats against madara which would validate my opinion.

Btw diedora will also beat kakashi. Sasuke was able to keep up because of his cm2, kakashi cannot get to deidora. Also even if kakashi can see the bombs, deidora uses c4 nearing the end of the fight and that means kakashi wouldnt have any chakra left to neutralise it

 

[iSpeak]

He beat Kakuzu 1v1? WHEN??!

Where did I say he beat Kakuzu 1 on 1?
He told Ino and Shikamaru to help him whilst he ends the battle

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Then we see Chouji holding Hizashi and sitting on Kakuzu, whilst Choza was seen on top of the Zetsu army.

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Unless you think Ino and Shika did most of the work?

I think you are seriously underestimating him.

 

[MinatoFLASH]

Plz stop with kamui, seriously. How many puppets can he teleport?.
Kakashi would be killed of pretty quickly against sasori and ive explained why in a vs thread, i hate repeating myself therefore ill sum it up.

Kakshi would be at the disadvantage from the start and would be fighting defensively for most of the fight. He would lose a short range fight with sasori, mid range and long range. Sasori rapes.

Tobirama also rapes. Best suiton user. S/t tech and his bringer of darkness tech.

With tsuande and konan it will go either way imo, but tsuande will show great feats against madara which would validate my opinion

He doesn't need to kamui the others, just the controller and that is Sasori, I explained how he will do this in another vs thread. lets just say i disagree Sasori wud definitely win. 2nd Hokage I guess and no not Konan and Kakashi until Tsunade shows these great feats.

 

[sG Taka]

Sasori cud probably lose because of Kakashi's kamui and sharingan. And speed especially if he goes gates. Tsunade I think wud lose, Konan wud lose. And until I see 2nd fight we cannot guarantee him winning. Deidara loses the same way he lost to Sasuke.

Kakashi can only open the first gate, which allows the user to perform the Front Lotus, big whoop. Ugh..I'm not even going to bother with this "Kamui" issue again so forget it. With the 2nd I can see where you're coming from, so I guess he's on standby. With Tsunade..I have written to many paragraphs explaining why she has more chances of winning..go check my posts if you really want to know. And Deidara, Sasuke is alive today thanks to Manda, what would Kakashi use to defend against that blow? Still..Sasuke is very different from Kakashi so you can't say it would go the same way. Sasuke used kenjutsu and curse mark..something Kakashi doesn't have.

 

[Blaze Release]

I dont think Kabuto was fully controlling their every move. People like Asuma, yes. But why would he need to controll people who are on his side? Deidara chose his own moves to use, such as when he said he will use C0 since he will just be revived again. What actually makes you think Chouji is weak in butterfly mode anyway? im guessing you have a reason to belive it...

Answer this first. Do you think if those three ninja's were alive and not edo ninja's, choji in butterfly mode can beat them.

 

[sG Taka]

He doesn't need to kamui the others, just the controller and that is Sasori, I explained how he will do this in another vs thread. lets just say i disagree Sasori wud definitely win. 2nd Hokage I guess and no not Konan and Kakashi until Tsunade shows these great feats.

Oh so apparently, Kakashi can just Kamui people away now? Cool. Besides, Sasori has his puppets in front of him, and when he doesn't he has them chasing his opponent. One little scratch and it's over because of the poison..let's not mention the 100 puppets technique.

 

[Blaze Release]

He doesn't need to kamui the others, just the controller and that is Sasori, I explained how he will do this in another vs thread. lets just say i disagree Sasori wud definitely win. 2nd Hokage I guess and no not Konan and Kakashi until Tsunade shows these great feats.

You do know that sasori usually wins his battle whilst in his scorpion form. Only when his opponents have beaten his scorpion form those he bless them by taking them seriously and unleashing all his puppets, including the 3rd kazekage.

I really believe sasori would beat him staying in his scorpion form. He doent need to unleash his puppets yet

 

[iSpeak]

Answer this first. Do you think if those three ninja's were alive and not edo ninja's, choji in butterfly mode can beat them.

Well im not the type of person to judge abilities from fights we havnt seen. But from what was shown for now I will have to believe Choji could, atleast with Ino and Shika's help anyway. Just like for now I have to agree that Hashirama can defeat EMS Madara, even though I havnt see that fight aswell. So what makes you think that he cant? Why would it matter if they were edos if they had controll over their actions anyway?

 

[Blaze Release]

Well im not the type of person to judge abilities from fights we havnt seen. But from what was shown for now I will have to believe Choji could, atleast with Ino and Shika's help anyway. Just like for now I have to agree that Hashirama can defeat EMS Madara, even though I havnt see that fight aswell. So what makes you think that he cant? Why would it matter if they were edos if they had controll over their actions anyway?

Im pretty tired and i need to go bed so ill make it quick and simple. Firstly you said he beat them 1 vs 1. Now you say with the help of ino and shikamaru, its as if you know he cannot beat them 1 vs 1.

Anyway from the abilities shown team asuma should be able to beat asuma and neji's dad but will fail to beat kakuzu

 

[Oronagato]

I want to see u name 20 ppl who cud take Kakashi.

Kisame
1st Hokage
Rinnegan Tobi
Naruto
Onoki
Danzo
J man
Orochimaru
Hanzo
Tsunade
Kakuzu
Sasori
Sarutobi
Tobirama
Mei
Minato
Madara
Sasuke
Gold and silver brothers
Pain
Itachi
Izuna
Guren
Hidan (MAYBE)

 

[iSpeak]

Im pretty tired and i need to go bed so ill make it quick and simple. Firstly you said he beat them 1 vs 1. Now you say with the help of ino and shikamaru, its as if you know he cannot beat them 1 vs 1.

Anyway from the abilities shown team asuma should be able to beat asuma and neji's dad but will fail to beat kakuzu

I never said he beat them 1 v 1. I said he defeated them all, but he probably had help from Ino and Shika. Kakashi couldnt defeat Kakuzu alone, and that was with the help of Shika, Choji and Ino.
You still havnt explained how Choji is weak.
Team Asuma can beat Asuma and Neji's dad? They were struggling with and Edo Asuma who never had control over his actions untill Chouji wen't butterfly. What makes you think they can defeat Asuma and Neji's dad together? Do you think Kakshi can beat Kakuzu, Asume and Neji's dad with the help of Ino and Shika?

 

[MinatoFLASH]

Kakashi can only open the first gate, which allows the user to perform the Front Lotus, big whoop. Ugh..I'm not even going to bother with this "Kamui" issue again so forget it. With the 2nd I can see where you're coming from, so I guess he's on standby. With Tsunade..I have written to many paragraphs explaining why she has more chances of winning..go check my posts if you really want to know. And Deidara, Sasuke is alive today thanks to Manda, what would Kakashi use to defend against that blow? Still..Sasuke is very different from Kakashi so you can't say it would go the same way. Sasuke used kenjutsu and curse mark..something Kakashi doesn't have.

I have written several paragraphs about how Kakashi has much better chances against Tsunade. Kakashi can use head hunter jutsu and go deep underground, remember what he always does against fire, like against fire ball jutsu.

 

[sG Taka]

I have written several paragraphs about how Kakashi has much better chances against Tsunade. Kakashi can use head hunter jutsu and go deep underground, remember what he always does against fire, like against fire ball jutsu.

Are you saying a Kage cannot avoid or counter a simple D-rank jutsu? Are you relying on that? How could Tsunade not see that? What about all the other points I brought up?

 

[iSpeak]

@MinatoFlash. You stil havn't explained how BM Chouji is at Sakura and Kiba's level. I mean Kiba... seriously?

 

[Kakashi Fang]

Kakashi wins easily.

 

[soulreaper11]

kakashi will own him dont let the butterfly fool you he as gotten strong but still got ways to go

 

[NLee]

Kakashi

 

[MinatoFLASH]

Are you saying a Kage cannot avoid or counter a simple D-rank jutsu? Are you relying on that? How could Tsunade not see that? What about all the other points I brought up?

LOL I was talking about Kakashi doing this to avoid the Deidara blast. Kakashi cud take Tsunade because of his advantage to fight in all ranges when Tsunade has only short ranged which is a HUGE disadvantage. It's like Hidan vs Deidara, even tho Hidan is also S-rank and is just as dangerous and has immortality he cannot beat Deidara because he cannot hit him and is short ranged.

The manga says to beat someone like Deidara u shud either be a.....

1. Long range fighter
2. Experienced fighter
3. A very intelligent fighter

And then kishi also shows so great things that help against him are-

4. Sharingan
5. Lightning style

Kakashi has EVERY SINGLE thing listed to beat Deidara, making him a terrible opponent for Deidara.

@MinatoFlash. You stil havn't explained how BM Chouji is at Sakura and Kiba's level. I mean Kiba... seriously?

Sakura is just as strong in physical strength and surpasses him in speed and intelligence, she also is more skilled and is a great medical ninja.

Kiba can team up with Akamaru and makes him a 2v1, which is a big threat, he also has much more speed feats and is much faster and also has attacks that cause equal damage as Choji if not more.

Lastly, all 3 are some of the best Chunnin in the war right now.

Strong? YES Comparable? YES

Can either one of them take Kakashi 1v1? NO

 

[iSpeak]

Sakura is just as strong in physical strength and surpasses him in speed and intelligence, she also is more skilled and is a great medical ninja.

Kiba can team up with Akamaru and makes him a 2v1, which is a big threat, he also has much more speed feats and is much faster and also has attacks that cause equal damage as Choji if not more.

Lastly, all 3 are some of the best Chunnin in the war right now.

Strong? YES Comparable? YES

Can either one of them take Kakashi 1v1? NO

You have lost me... how can Kiba and his pet Chiwawa be a threat to Choji who can turn to the size of this

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So you are saying if Sakura and Kiba where both in Choji's position, they would have acomplished the same thing? Choji was the game changer during that battle.
Look at what he made just by landing on the ground

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. Notice the effect made by one of Choji's punches

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. One punch from Choji finished Asuma, that is all it takes. Then we see him holding Hizashi and sitting on Kakuzu, the same person who alone gave Kakashi a hard time. Some serious underestimation is goin gon here if you think he is still at Kiba's level even after butterfly mode.

 

[MinatoFLASH]

You have lost me... how can Kiba and his pet Chiwawa be a threat to Choji who can turn to the size of this

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So you are saying if Sakura and Kiba where both in Choji's position, they would have acomplished the same thing? Choji was the game changer during that battle.
Look at what he made just by landing on the ground

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. Notice the effect made by one of Choji's punches

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. One punch from Choji finished Asuma, that is all it takes. Then we see him holding Hizashi and sitting on Kakuzu, the same person who alone gave Kakashi a hard time. Some serious underestimation is goin gon here if you think he is still at Kiba's level even after butterfly mode.

Dude Kiba still has much more speed than him in a 1v1 and Sakura does that in one punch.