Kakashi lol what happened to him ?????

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Serious? He is one of the strongest in Konoha alone +He's known around the lands Eveyone he's fought knew about him(for the Most part)
He's Kage Level and so is Guy, It's just Kakashi has 1,000's more Jutsu's
whats the point of having 1000 if 2 drain you ????????
and yes honestly i acknowledge his skill above alot of people but im saying for his background , he should be stronger
 

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Kakashi is kage level not only does Konoha aknowledge this but so do all the other kage go back and read the ending of the kage summit and you will see what I mean if Tsunade was still in a coma he would be hokage now. He was nominated ahead of Danzo but he got rawted in that instance, he has an intelect equal to Shikamaru, his taijutsu is as good as Gai's and he can do primary lotus, he can use MS and kamui is a mean tech by the way, he can use his sharingan superbly for a non Uchiha. There is only 2 things that could possibly hold him back from being a great hokage and that is 1)he doesn't have a great chakra reserve or stamina and 2)he doesn't want to be a hokage.
Atasuki acknowledge him... but look at his outcomes in those battles
i think yall dont get what im saying ... he's honestly strong but no match for kages or s class ninjas .... probably could give some of them a run for their money
 

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He's known all over the ninja world and is considered Konoha's master tactician, and jutsu expert. And he can't beat anyone kage level without a team? lol, If anything the teams he's always with hinder him.

Vs Kakuzu/Hidan he had to save Chouji/Ino/Shikamaru from the electrical blast, wasting a lot of his chakra. Vs Sasuke he was going to kill him before Sakura hindered him. Vs Deva Path he had developed the plan to beat him and had it executed perfectly, but plot no jutsu kicked in and somehow that other path managed to move after getting smashed to what should have been little bits by the 2(arguably) strongest characters in the series in Chouji and Chouza. He's now currently a General of the shinobi army and was the biggest factor(along with Gai) in taking out the Seven Swordsmen of the Mist.

If you wanna go back to part 1 -

Vs Zabuza he had to worry about Team 7 and Tazuna. After he no longer had them to worry about he slapped Zabuza around like little bitch. He was ready to take Kabuto on, but he ran from him and vs Itachi he had to save Kurenai's useless ass(although he wasn't going to beat Itachi regardless, having her be so useless didn't help things).

He's more than made a name for himself..
 

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whats the point of having 1000 if 2 drain you ????????
and yes honestly i acknowledge his skill above alot of people but im saying for his background , he should be stronger
Some of his jutsu do use up alot of his chakra but they are his biggest and most powerful not all of his jutsu's drain a shit load of chakra he held his own against Hidan and Kakazu without even using his MS he was just using his standard jutsu's.
 

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He's known all over the ninja world and is considered Konoha's master tactician, and jutsu expert. And he can't beat anyone kage level without a team? lol, If anything the teams he's always with hinder him.

Vs Kakuzu/Hidan he had to save Chouji/Ino/Shikamaru from the electrical blast, wasting a lot of his chakra. Vs Sasuke he was going to kill him before Sakura hindered him. Vs Deva Path he had developed the plan to beat him and had it executed perfectly, but plot no jutsu kicked in and somehow that other path managed to move after getting smashed to what should have been little bits by the 2(arguably) strongest characters in the series in Chouji and Chouza. He's now currently a General of the shinobi army and was the biggest factor(along with Gai) in taking out the Seven Swordsmen of the Mist.

If you wanna go back to part 1 -

Vs Zabuza he had to worry about Team 7 and Tazuna. After he no longer had them to worry about he slapped Zabuza around like little bitch. He was ready to take Kabuto on, but he ran from him and vs Itachi he had to save Kurenai's useless ass(although he wasn't going to beat Itachi regardless, having her be so useless didn't help things).

He's more than made a name for himself..
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:scorps: you done ??
In that fight against kakazu and hidan i agree , ino and choji weren't help but apart from that , kisame would beat him , ok and when he saved kurenai that was his only highlight , if kurenai wasnt there the only clip would be kakashi knocked out and kisame carrying him to the base .... diedara didnt bring along enough clay ... even sasuke bearly survived a proper fight with him and sasuke back then is stronger than kakashi now ..... apart from that what has he done except get wacked but tobi - if it was a blade - death in a second
you honestly want more close calls

because from what im getting yall are trying to put kakashi in a position of high levels as jiraya , oro , kisame , itachi , kakazu , raikage , oonoki
ARE YALL MAD ?
i acknowledge his strength as a powerful shinobi but he is not kage in power
probably in jutsu knowledge and tactics yes , power nope not ready yet ... although he is great but not brilliant :scorps:
 

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Some of his jutsu do use up alot of his chakra but they are his biggest and most powerful not all of his jutsu's drain a shit load of chakra he held his own against Hidan and Kakazu without even using his MS he was just using his standard jutsu's.
lol one shadow clone almost ended him .... lol not to be funny but it took alot out him
but yea he held his own
i respect him for that
 

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:scorps: you done ??
In that fight against kakazu and hidan i agree , ino and choji weren't help but apart from that , kisame would beat him , ok and when he saved kurenai that was his only highlight , if kurenai wasnt there the only clip would be kakashi knocked out and kisame carrying him to the base
And your point is? That Kakashi was obviously extremely weak compared to current.

.... diedara didnt bring along enough clay ... even sasuke bearly survived a proper fight with him and sasuke back then is stronger than kakashi now ..... apart from that what has he done except get wacked but tobi - if it was a blade - death in a second
you honestly want more close calls
LOL That Sasuke > current Kakashi? Quit trolling, it does you no good.

Wtf are you talking about with Tobi?

because from what im getting yall are trying to put kakashi in a position of high levels as jiraya , oro , kisame , itachi , kakazu , raikage , oonoki
ARE YALL MAD ?
i acknowledge his strength as a powerful shinobi but he is not kage in power
probably in jutsu knowledge and tactics yes , power nope not ready yet ... although he is great but not brilliant :scorps:
No, he's not better than the people you listed(though currently with the stamina increase he's received he'd give Kakuzu a run for his money). However, on a tier list he'd rank a mid-kage level. The people you listed, aside from Kakuzu, are high-kage to god like-tier. So no, he's not on their level.
 

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hes one of the strongest in konoha and famous worldwide for his skills. pain feared him. what part of potential did he not live up to? also kakashis still young. hes still getting stronger every time he fights.
 

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pain feared him
hahahahahahahahaha lol
you obviously new to anime , most villians acknowledge characters strength doesnt mean they fear you . use a dictionary and search up "fear" and "acknowledge ". see how parallel their meanings are.

Yall honestly are delusional , kakashi is above special jonnin but below kage
nothing more nothing less :scorps:
 

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And your point is? That Kakashi was obviously extremely weak compared to current.
only new power he has is mangekou , and a few new chidori

LOL That Sasuke > current Kakashi? Quit trolling, it does you no good.
Are you honestly saying kakashi now is > sasuke before he fought itachi lolololololololololololololololololol maybe you're trolling

Wtf are you talking about with Tobi?
WACK A MOLE JUTSU

No, he's not better than the people you listed(though currently with the stamina increase he's received he'd give Kakuzu a run for his money). However, on a tier list he'd rank a mid-kage level. The people you listed, aside from Kakuzu, are high-kage to god like-tier. So no, he's not on their level.
who he better than oro, jiraya , kisame , kakazu , itachi , minato lolololoolololool now you trolling
I know its hard to do but who has kakashi ever really beaten anyone on his own ( 75% of the battle) apart from zabuza really :sy:
like i said he strong but a little overrated :scorps:
 

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Kakashi had so much potential as a kid to be greater and even more feared than he presently is but we all know what and why His development stop

ANSWER : :scorps: MAKE OUT PARADISE

Ever since that book came out kakashi has never really been able to focus on become more powerful:scorps: xd I mean WTH
Read it before you reply didnt i say " EVEN MORE FEARED THAN HE PRESENTLY IS ] DUHHHH :scorps::sy::scorps:

READ BEFORE YOU POST
:scorps:
 

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only new power he has is mangekou , and a few new chidori
And a giant stamina increase, and he's mastered the mangekyou.

Are you honestly saying kakashi now is > sasuke before he fought itachi lolololololololololololololololololol maybe you're trolling
Yes, Current Kakashi > Pre-MS Sasuke.


WACK A MOLE JUTSU
If you're going to actually try and use that in a debate you may as well just quit.

who he better than oro, jiraya , kisame , kakazu , itachi , minato lolololoolololool now you trolling
I know its hard to do but who has kakashi ever really beaten anyone on his own ( 75% of the battle) apart from zabuza really :sy:
like i said he strong but a little overrated :scorps:
I told you out of that list he'd give Kakuzu a run for his money. I didn't say he was better than anyone else on that list, I stated quite the opposite. Improve your reading comprehension..and while you're at it, fix your grammar, too. It's horrid.

Who has Kakashi ever fought by himself apart from Zabuza?

Exactly.

He disposed of Fuguki pretty easily by himself, then Sai sealed him. That's the only instance where he's fought someone by himself, if you can even count that. I wouldn't really count Pain either as people arrived halfway through it. Though he figured out his abilities which was one of the biggest advantages Naruto had in fighting Pain.
 

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...I'm really starting to get sick of people spamming the :scorps: emoticon.

It doesn't make you cool. If anything, it makes it more difficult to read your post. Please keep the use to a minimum.

Anyway, I think you're underrating current Kakashi and overrating young Kakashi. Yeah, as a kid he had lots of potential, but hearing you talk about it I'd almost think his potential was through the roof. It wasn't. He learned a thousand jutsus, has even gained the MS and mastered it as a non-Uchiha. Keep in mind the incredible chakra drain of using the MS as a non-Uchiha, and if you then look at how current Kakashi is doing in the War, to me he didn't disappoint for one bit.
All i talked bout is his potential when he was younger , copied a thousand jutsu lets get that right ,to me he disappoints, if anyone dies , it might be kakashi from konoha i mean but yea
i didnt like his fight with zabuza and i thought his chain chidori was cool but nothing more than that really impressed me
 

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Kakashi is one of the best ''all around'' ninjas. He's good at Taijutsu, Ninjutsu, Genjutsu and he's incredibly intelligent. Kakashi is underrated because he doesn't have huge chakra reserves.
 

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Kakashi is one of the best ''all around'' ninjas. He's good at Taijutsu, Ninjutsu, Genjutsu and he's incredibly intelligent. Kakashi is underrated because he doesn't have huge chakra reserves.
EXACTLY
so why are people jumping in defending him because of his faults
your faults are what makes your strength
all fighters know this you use your strength to mask your weakness thats all

and yea he is a well rounded ninja no doubting that
 
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