kakashi is low jounin like K11 without Obito OP Sharingan

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Kakashi is one of the overrated characters in Naruto


almost like 98 % of his power come from the sharingan

he is pretty useless without Obito sharingan

he even admitted this himself he said iam useless without it


Kakashi is not a skilled ninja with pure talent like Obito , itachi , Sasuke , Orochimaru


he rely on the sharingan all the time

Obito's eye was the reason why all the villages called him the Copy Ninja since part 1

damn Obito did alot in this story

I agree with everything you said apart from this. Obito didn't have pure talent, he was a total dropout who became OP courtesy of one eye technique that he never worked for.
 

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He was low jounin before he got the Sharingan. He had only lightning element at that time since he said he tried putting his element into Rasengan but couldn't so made chidori. He learned earth and water elements and said learning an element was hard to do. He also improved his knowledge, experiences, and skills. Plus the K11 are all Chunin level but Naruto, Sasuke, and Neji (Sakura has Kage power and reserve with Yin seal but her other stats are high Chunin level).

Part 1 Kakashi let himself go, he said this right before training Sasuke for the month and Shippuden Kakashi is a more honed Kakashi since he knows he'll have to face enemies such as Akatsuki or Orochimaru's forces. MS put Kakashi on Kage level, 3T didn't really change Kakashi's level to such extent since Itachi said Kakashi can't use the Sharingan as a true Uchiha. 3T did more for Sasuke than it would for Kakashi.
what you posted here doesn't give him credit without Obito sharingan

earth and water elements are basic almost every fodder can use it

if you re read the manga again since part one will know that the sharingan was the reason why kakashi is learning so fast

he has rikari without the sharingan , Big deal ..
 

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I agree with everything you said apart from this. Obito didn't have pure talent, he was a total dropout who became OP courtesy of one eye technique that he never worked for.

Obito has S level katon , strong genjutsu to the level he killed an akatsuki member with it

kamui ( so op ) and the speed and finally he has PS with his sharingan
and thats why kakashi used and lost it when Obito eyes are gone

all these power with his normal sharingan only
 

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It's like people have forgotten that the only OP ass ninja are Naruto and Sasuke. Compare Kakashi to any current shinobi and he's pretty much on their level or above in terms of senses, versatility and experience. He still has access to his lightning jutsu, earth jutsu, and clones - and he's an expert at using clones.
 

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I agree with everything you said apart from this. Obito didn't have pure talent, he was a total dropout who became OP courtesy of one eye technique that he never worked for.
Using mokuton jutsu right away?

Outsmarting itachi, hacking kaguya dimensions, trolling others, using kakashi to lift curse mark, using kamui to come back from death, his skill with TSB and as juubi jin overall, his other jutsus mixed with kamui.

Its not just eye, he has talent.
 
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You seem to forget that kakashi was born with talent. He was a child prodigy and was JOUNIN level at preTS naruto's age. Mind you this is all before the sharingan. Why do people think Kakashi is such a weakling without the Sharingan? He still has access to over a thousand jutsu and an s-rank jutsu, somewhat genius intellect, and actual feats. Kakashi is kage level.

Edit : Also Kakashi has beaten Obito, the ninja who soloed half the narutoverse. Obito is definitely above kage level.
 
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You seem to forget that kakashi was born with talent. He was a child prodigy and was JOUNIN level at preTS naruto's age. Mind you this is all before the sharingan. Why do people think Kakashi is such a weakling without the Sharingan? He still has access to over a thousand jutsu and an s-rank jutsu, somewhat genius intellect, and actual feats. Kakashi is kage level.

Edit : Also Kakashi has beaten Obito, the ninja who soloed half the narutoverse. Obito is definitely above kage level.

He was made jonin at war since konoha lacked some captains.

His 1000 jutsu is weak argument since he has weak stamina.

He beaten obito who needed his heart pieced to lift the mark?

Not saying kakashi isnt cool but he's not kage level anymore.
 

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what you posted here doesn't give him credit without Obito sharingan

earth and water elements are basic almost every fodder can use it

if you re read the manga again since part one will know that the sharingan was the reason why kakashi is learning so fast

he has rikari without the sharingan , Big deal ..

....they are called the 5 basic elements, Jounins usually have 2 elements and Kakashi have 3. Kakashi had to learn to use the Sharingan so him using it was still his skills which Itachi did praise him on while also saying he can't use it as well as a true Uchiha. Kakashi had other jutsus, Rikari is the only one he created, other ones would be ones he learned. He graduated the ninja Academy at 5 and became a Chunin at 6, if anything getting the Sharingan caused him to be weaker since he had to learn how to use it then learned 2 other elements since you need to be able to use the element to copy jutsus from that element.
 

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You seem to forget that kakashi was born with talent. He was a child prodigy and was JOUNIN level at preTS naruto's age. Mind you this is all before the sharingan. Why do people think Kakashi is such a weakling without the Sharingan? He still has access to over a thousand jutsu and an s-rank jutsu, somewhat genius intellect, and actual feats. Kakashi is kage level.

Edit : Also Kakashi has beaten Obito, the ninja who soloed half the narutoverse. Obito is definitely above kage level.

Where are his feats for this "1000 jutsu"?
I am a person who believes in feats, not hype.
 

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Whatever you say Dark Artist.
 

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yeah kinda agree that he's overrated.
he's smart, good jutsu and all but he was strong especially for his (or better Obito's) sharingan ..
now cool ninja ok but not at Kage level.
 

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You can't without the Sharingan.

Madara did use Susano'o without sharingans...

OT: you are underestimating Kakashi's skills , like Sasuke , Sasuke was owned in such a shamefull way by Kakashi (strategy wise) that I thought the proud Sasuke would commit suicide when Sakura saved him , Sasuke is a little bug under Kakashi's foot considering strategy.
 
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Madara did use Susano'o without sharingans...

OT: you are underestimating Kakashi's skills , like Sasuke , Sasuke was owned in such a shamefull way by Kakashi (strategy wise) that I thought the proud Sasuke would commit suicide when Sakura saved him , Sasuke is a little bug under Kakashi's foot considering strategy.

Refer to my previous posts on this thread
 

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Once again, cant people stop being retard ?
If Kakashi doesnt has sharingan then he is not kakashi from naruto universe. Characters are based on who they are and what they have. Your "kakashi" version is just as low as u, ok?
Also not using what you have is just stupid. He doesnt has bloodline to support his eye but still manages to ultilize it's max level. If he has bloodline in theory then gg, god of uchiha.... But if he doesnt has sharingan then he will grow in different way, with his talent, he can max any professional at ease, since there is no mana tap.
One more thing without hashi's meat then ur fav is just a fodder that died long time ago. How do you feel then ? Hashi's meat is the father of all solo god ?
 
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