Kakashi hypocrisy

[Shruikan]

I'm not going to explain myself 5 times over

You didnt explain anything relevant to this matter.Sasuke kept on insisting revenge and Naruto was not happy about this fact despite him wanting revenge for Jiraiya's death/He may not not have gotten revenge but doesnt change the fact that since he himself desired it at a point,questioning Sasuke about his revenge motives is hypocritical
Also using "Revenge" as a means to bring him back/force him to stay in the village as you pointed above doesnt make it less hypocritical

 

[To Whatever]

There were multiple ways for Sasuke to gain power to kill Itachi.

Sasuke chose an incredibly dangerous way.


Plus, he technically kept himself from being closer to revenge by not killing Naruto at VOTE since we're splitting hairs.

 

[Shruikan]

Plus, he technically kept himself from being closer to revenge by not killing Naruto at VOTE since we're splitting hairs.

Actually its because he didnt want to give Itachi the satisfaction of following his instructions coupled with his change of heart not because of revenge

 

[To Whatever]

Actually its because he didnt want to give Itachi the satisfaction of following his instructions coupled with his change of heart not because of revenge

He still kept himself from gaining revenge quicker.

 

[Avani]

You didnt explain anything relevant to this matter.Sasuke kept on insisting revenge and Naruto was not happy about this fact despite him wanting revenge for Jiraiya's death
He may not not have gotten revenge but doesnt change the fact that since he himself desired it at a point,questioning Sasuke about his revenge motives is hypocritical

Err, When did he question his motives of revenge? He questioned the means Sasuke was taking for revenge.

You must be registered for see links

Sasuke was ready to die for a chance for revenge - he was going to offer his body to him- Oro taking over a body meant that person being dead. Trying to stop your friend from killing himself! of course it was such a hypocritical and evil act!!

Ignore the fact that Sasuke had chosen death in his zeal for revenge. Whether Itachi lost or won to oro afterwards, Sasuke would have been gone. If Naruto and company didn't fight tooth and nail to stop him, Sasuke would have been met the fate that guy Genyumary met in the link below:

You must be registered for see links

The fights delayed his arrival to Oro's hideout. So Oro had to take over another body and wait three years before he could do it again. Those three years were crucial for Sasuke getting stronger and being able to subdue Oro next time he tried that. But nope, evil the hypocritical bunch of them, all ensured that Sasuke gets to live 3 more years at least years and be strong enough to fight back Oro.

Neither Shikamaru nor Naruto acted that crazy. If they did I would expect for their "friends" to point out the problems to them and try to stop them.

Also using "Revenge" as a means to bring him back/force him to stay in the village as you pointed above doesnt make it less hypocritical

Sure. Konoha should have wrapped him and sent to Oro faster and made sure Sasuke was dead and passed on his revenge to Oro to fulfill. And of course we would get to see what Oro with sharingan could do. He would probably still lose to Itachi... but could copy a lot of techs faster so...dunno .. what a lost opportunity!. 'Would have saved us all the pairing fights for SS too.

 

[UzumakiWade]

He went because Team 10 needed a leader, Team 10 were the ones trying to avenge Asuma, not Kakashi, he was just tagging along to make sure they didn't end up exactly like Asuma. Dead.

As for Naruto being a hypocrite, He never stopped Sasuke from getting revenge, he even encouraged it, when Naruto heard that Sasuke got revenge and killed Itachi, he thought Sasuke would come back, in a way, he was encouraging it, because he was happy that Sasuke got revenge. And furthermore its not like he actually got his revenge, sure maybe he said he was going to avenge Jiraiya, but who killed Nagato in the end? Naruto didn't, it was Nagato who sacrificed himself for Konoha.

 

[Shruikan]

Err, When did he question his motives of revenge? He questioned the means Sasuke was taking for revenge.

Spoiler

You must be registered for see images

I was talking of the above scan where he questions why Sasuke chose on revenge in the end against the Leaf

The second scan was put only to show that he knew how important revenge was to Sasuke and even after Oro's threat to Sasuke was over,still questions it knowing what Itachi meant to Sasuke

Sasuke was ready to die for a chance for revenge - he was going to offer his body to him- Oro taking over a body meant that person being dead. Trying to stop your friend from killing himself! of course it was such a hypocritical and evil act!!



Ignore the fact that Sasuke had chosen death in his zeal for revenge. Whether Itachi lost or won to oro afterwards, Sasuke would have been gone. If Naruto and company didn't fight tooth and nail to stop him, Sasuke would have been met the fate that guy Genyumary met in the link below:

You must be registered for see links

The fights delayed his arrival to Oro's hideout. So Oro had to take over another body and wait three years before he could do it again. Those three years were crucial for Sasuke getting stronger and being able to subdue Oro next time he tried that. But nope, evil the hypocritical bunch of them, all ensured that Sasuke gets to live 3 more years at least years and be strong enough to fight back Oro.

Neither Shikamaru nor Naruto acted that crazy. If they did I would expect for their "friends" to point out the problems to them and try to stop them.


Sure. Konoha should have wrapped him and sent to Oro faster and made sure Sasuke was dead and passed on his revenge to Oro to fulfill. And of course we would get to see what Oro with sharingan could do. He would probably still lose to Itachi... but could copy a lot of techs faster so...dunno .. what a lost opportunity!. 'Would have saved us all the pairing fights for SS too.

Correct me if I am wrong but Naruto never expressly told Sasuke not to pursue revenge in Part 1 fight.I just said that he effectively was dissuading Sasuke from achieving his revenge which I just wanted to prove that Naruto not prohibiting Sasuke from revenge is untrue .It wasnt hypocrisy then as he didnt even say anything on the subject then and Naruto himself didnt want revenge at that point.Therefore I am not sure why you keep bringing in Part 1 when my point mostly is regards what he said and did in Part 2.

I even said this

"Naruto didnt want him to leave the village because he didnt want to lose Sasuke to Orochimaru and also because he didnt want the bond between the two to break."

So there was absolutely no need for the sneering tone which was used in your post

It only became hypocritical when he wanted revenge against Pain for Jiraiya's death at one point and when later on he found out Sasuke wanted revenge against the Leaf for what they did to Itachi he is distraught on why Sasuke chose on revenge forgetting he himself had done the same thing except in his case it was a villain and not the Village elders.Therefore at that point wanting him to not choose revenge and return to the village is what is hypocritical

 

[Izou Xaxa]

I agree what i hate always is naruto always forgives sasuke even if he would destroy everything but when pain did something naruto was like never forgiving but pain had a tragic story too
also when tobi asked naruto how he changed nagato
naruto just said that he dont care fro that right now and wants to know about sasuke
really naruto is egoistic and idiot

 

[Avani]

Spoiler

You must be registered for see images

I was talking of the above scan where he questions why Sasuke chose on revenge in the end against the Leaf

................

It only became hypocritical when he wanted revenge against Pain for Jiraiya's death at one point and when later on he found out Sasuke wanted revenge against the Leaf for what they did to Itachi he is distraught on why Sasuke chose on revenge forgetting he himself had done the same thing except in his case it was a villain and not the Village elders.Therefore at that point wanting him to not choose revenge and return to the village is what is hypocritical

Wasn't he trying to understand the whole situation in that panel? He had not exacted his revenge for Jiraiya despite wanting it desperately at one point. He rather focused on what Jiraiya wanted to achieve and got a better deal.

In contrast, Sasuke was trying to trample on what Itachi had achieved by his sacrifice, including a better chance at life. The attack on Bee, and other subsequent incidents all were going against him making him target of the whole world. An attack on Konoha would mean it was all over for Sasuke at that point.

He didn't try to talk to Sasuke or ask him anything or give him a lecture on revenge, after obito told him more. He pondered over what he had learned and said he would decide his next step after seeing Sasuke. And then made the decision to simply be the one to bare his hate and anger as a midway- saving Konoha and letting Sasuke have it at the same time. If these actions make him a hypocrite it worked in Sasuke's favour.

I agree what i hate always is naruto always forgives sasuke even if he would destroy everything but when pain did something naruto was like never forgiving but pain had a tragic story too
also when tobi asked naruto how he changed nagato
naruto just said that he dont care fro that right now and wants to know about sasuke
really naruto is egoistic and idiot

lol

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Lol. Revenge or not team 10's mission was to kill the duo.

They gotta complete that mission. Can't just let asuma's intel go to waste.