Kakashi has the "Authority of the Gods"

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No he doesn't he even points out that he doesn't.
So..........yeah

He's been fighting since the start of the war, by the time Naruto began moving after encountering the Raikage it was already sunrise meaning 24 hours have past.Kakashi began worrying about his chakra when he made a bunshin against the V2 cloak Jins.

Using the sharingan constantly for 24 hours is a huge feat for Kakashi.

Borgards thread explains it better.
 
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It hasn't killed anyone, but it can kill people.

Because all he has to do is focus the warp point over a vital area, like the head or the heart, and that part will be forcibly ripped from the rest of that person's body.

Basically he would have killed Deidara if he was as experienced with the Kamui then as he is now.

It can kill he just hasn't been able to get a clear shot since he awoken his eye.

Deidara got away and the Gedo held too much mass

Oh cool....
 

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He's been fighting since the start of the war, by the time Naruto began moving after encountering the Raikage it was already sunrise meaning 24 hours have past.Kakashi began worrying about his chakra when he made a bunshin against the V2 cloak Jins.

Using the sharingan constantly for 24 hours is a huge feat for Kakashi.

He used up his chakra and then had time to heal inside kurama while on his back then he was given some more chakra right before he was thrown in the dimension,he then got out and was thrown back in,like three chapters later and has been there until just now.
So..........yeah Tim Jaminon has no idea what he is talking about
 

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Ummmm okay i see no one seen my question so i'll ask again lol....what do people mean by kakashi's kamui is broken or unbroken
 

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I thought you meant obito's,i got your post mixed up with another
No he doesn't he even points out that he doesn't.He just knows how to use the minimal amount needed to get the job done.And uchiha do not have high chakra levels by default that have STRONG chakra and yes there is a difference and for that whole 25 hours thing you talking about it wasn't just off his reserves alone.He used up his chakra and then had time to heal inside kurama while on his back then he was given some more chakra right before he was thrown in the dimension,he then got out and was thrown back in like three chapters later and has been there until just now.
So..........yeah Tim Jaminon has no idea what he is talking about

seems you don't know what i'm talking about at all such a shame.I know Kakashi was refueled with chakra but what i've been taking about in the first place is Kakashi's performance BEFORE gaining the Kyuubi's chakra.
He used up his chakra and then had time to heal inside kurama while on his back then he was given some more chakra right before he was thrown in the dimension,he then got out and was thrown back in,like three chapters later and has been there until just now.
So..........yeah Tim Jaminon has no idea what he is talking about
Again i'm going with Kakashi's performance BEFORE(BEFORE) he gained the Kyuubi's chakra.Jesus Christ man.
 
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He used up his chakra and then had time to heal inside kurama while on his back then he was given some more chakra right before he was thrown in the dimension,he then got out and was thrown back in,like three chapters later and has been there until just now.
So..........yeah Tim Jaminon has no idea what he is talking about

Kurama did not replenish any chakra when he was inside Naruto's huge transparent 9 tails. The first time he received chakra from the fox was when he asked Naruto to switch places with him and then he threw Kakashi at Obito and Obito sent him to the Kamui dimension.

As far as him staying to replenish his chakra, I will submit to you that it hasn't really been that long in manga time despite us readers having to wait multiple weeks.
 

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Well Kakashi is renown in the base as a ninja who has low chakra reserves, but is it true? I would like to show something:

First day of the war:

- Kakashi was fighting since begin of the first day of the war against 7swordsmen and co(notice there is sun). It was even the first division we've seen fighting:
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- Later when Naruto come out, he realises Kakashi was still fighting along with Gai and others:
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- After that, Naruto meets Raikage and Tsunade and you can notice Kakashi, Gai and co were still fighting and it's the night now
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And we know that he fought all the night because after his meeting with Raikage, you can notice that the sun was rising and it's not as if the meeting lasted that long:
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Second day of the war

- It's in chapter 546 that Gaara, Onoki and co finally decide to start fighting(they were retreating all the time during the first day of the war):
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- In chapter 556(so 10chapters after), we see Onoki complaining about his chakra reserves:
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- After the first day then, we see again Kakashi fighting the swordsmen:
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- It's in chapter 563 that all the kages finally start fighting(Tsunade didn't start the fight yet though and Onoki, Gaara and Mei were already fighting):
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- In the chapter 566(so 7chapters after), we see Kakashi and Gai appearing to save Naruto facing Tobi:
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- 2chapters later, Kakashi states that he begins to worry about his chakra reserves(talking about his entire day of fighting before even coming):
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- Notice that when they are fighting, it was still the day:
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- It's in chapter 577 that Tsunade finally starts fighting and releases Byakuyou:
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- In chapter 588, Onoki again talks about his chakra reserves to be too low and that it could be their last attack, asking Tsunade to supply him with chakra:
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- In chapter 591, Tsunade pretty much had no chakra left with her Byakuyou running out:
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- In chapter 596 when we see them again(there was the fight between Itachi, Sasuke vs Kabuto, and Madara vs Kages in between), we see it was already night, meaning they fought that long until night appeared:
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- Madara appears in chapter 600
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- And it's only 9chapters later that Kakashi finally ran out of chakra/stamina along with Gai(though there were flash-backs, they were fighting in between):
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I rated his stamina before receiving Kyubi's chakra of course. So do you really think that this war arc Kakashi has low chakra reserves or is low in stamina like i usually see on the base? I personally doubt it

I just felt the need to create this thread because of the huge underestimation of Kakashi's stamina i believe. Hope you enjoyed reading U_U

Full credit goes to T Borgard.U_U
 

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So what is this argument about?
Who's saying what?

I said Kakashi has high reserves which will overall make his kamui usage OP.Someone else disagreed, i mentioned that Borgards thread explained what i wanted to say better so i pasted it here to prove a point that's all.
 

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I don't think he can go in the dimension tho.. lol. He can only come out and teleport others to the dimension.
 

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I don't think he can go in the dimension tho.. lol. He can only come out and teleport others to the dimension.
I don't see why he can't especially when the manga contradict your statement [ ]
 

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I said Kakashi has high reserves which will overall make his kamui usage OP.Someone else disagreed, i mentioned that Borgards thread explained what i wanted to say better so i pasted it here to prove a point that's all.

His chakra increased for sure.

He's not an Uchiha, which means he needs to use more Chakra for Sharingan Techniques.
...but he's using his Mangekyo Sharingan so frequently, which means his Chakra reserves ARE high.
 

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seems you don't know what i'm talking about at all such a shame.I know Kakashi was refueled with chakra but what i've been taking about in the first place is Kakashi's performance BEFORE gaining the Kyuubi's chakra.

Again i'm going with Kakashi's performance BEFORE(BEFORE) he gained the Kyuubi's chakra.Jesus Christ man.


Having chakra from kurama had nothing to do with your statement.

You said its "op because it doesn't need contact.

Kakashi needs to focus on what he is using kamui on and the larger the mass the more strain it causes and if the target is moving that makes it all the harder.

If it was op as you think it is then he would of killed someone by now.
Deidara got away and he couldn't even warp away the gedos head.


So....once again.........

Tim Jamison has no idea what he is talking about.
 

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I don't see why he can't especially when the manga contradict your statement [ ]

Maybe because i didn't know of the statement? o_O

On top of that wasn't that because of kurama??
 

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Having chakra from kurama had nothing to do with your statement.

You said its "op because it doesn't need contact.

Kakashi needs to focus on what he is using kamui on and the larger the mass the more strain it causes and if the target is moving that makes it all the harder.

If it was op as you think it is then he would of killed someone by now.
Deidara got away and he couldn't even warp away the gedos head.


So....once again.........

Tim Jamison has no idea what he is talking about.
He was a novice when he used it against Deidara.It takes no time at all to warp a humans neck off due to its size.

It causes strain but Kakashi was able to use a few times despite fighting beforehand.Deadman you've been saying i don't know what i'm talking but i do. The sharingan has pre cog so tracking the victems moves is basic.

You can deny what the manga has shown you provided nothing but garbage this whole time.
 

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Kakashi can't use both versions of Kamui. He can't use phasing, it's just that both versions of the jutsu share some similarities (so both Kakashi and Obito can use it to teleport themselves and other stuff into and out of the alternate dimension) but Kakashi can't use phasing and Obito can't use Kamui long-range.
 

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he doesn't have chakra to spam it like obito can and i don't think he can use it on body parts like obito can either....! i.e intangibility....! but sure he is top 15 rather easily...! may be even top 10...!
 
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