Kakashi & Gaara Vs Sasuke EMS

[lswhyte123]

sasuke paralize you in 1 secondand lighting beat sand stop being a fanboy and accept defeat

Lighting is weak against wind and Gaara has wind Natured chakra molded into his sand.

So Gaara has the elemental advantage there and because he combines his wind Nature chakra with sand he is also strong against his only weakness which is fire. I'm a Gaara fan of course but I also argue based entirely on Manga facts.

So eat it...:flaw:

No Sasuke cannot paralyse you in one second. He managed that once against Shee and Shee is inferior to Gaara in every way. Again though,this is not about Gaara vs Sasuke, it also takes Kakashi into consideration. If any of them get caught,then the other will help them.

 

[Bogard]

did you read the link i posted? Kakashi will be paralysed if he gets hit and If Sasuke could clearly see deidara's mines then he could clearly see kakashi underground as well
The bolded part: take that back right now

Itachi has sharingan but he didn't see when the clone of Kakashi lands the attack from underground when Kakashi fought Itachi 30% of chakra. He didn't even know that was a clone. He didn't know the real Kakashi was hiding underground. Do you really think Kakashi will attack without thinking?

 

[Unorthodox]

Lighting is weak against wind and Gaara has wind Natured chakra molded into his sand.

So Gaara has the elemental advantage there and because he combines his wind Nature chakra with sand he is also strong against his only weakness which is fire. I'm a Gaara fan of course but I also argue based entirely on Manga facts.

So eat it...:flaw:

No Sasuke cannot paralyse you in one second. He managed that once against Shee and Shee is inferior to Gaara in every way. Again though,this is not about Gaara vs Sasuke, it also takes Kakashi into consideration. If any of them get caught,then the other will help them.

how is in usless to garra explain this to me and sasuke has fire and amaterasu kakashi will be useless periode after a long fight sasuke will win susanoo will not bee broken or being hit underneth

 

[lswhyte123]

how is in usless to garra explain this to me and sasuke has fire and amaterasu kakashi will be useless periode after a long fight sasuke will win susanoo will not bee broken or being hit underneth

Lighting is weak against Wind. Gaara has Wind Nature.

Fire is useless against Sand as sand cannot burn. Gaara uses Sand.

Just because we know that Gaara and Kakashi can attack Sasuke in his Susanoo from underneath,doesn't mean that it's the only way. Gaara could equally simply bury Sasuke's Susanoo or keep it covered in a huge sand Prison until Sasuke loses a lot of Chakra.

Your only real reason to think that Sasuke might win is because of his trump card the Susanoo.
Ever since he got the MS jutsu's,that's all anyone ever talks about. Well guess what?
In the words of Itachi "every jutsu has a weakness"...we now need to wait and see what Susanoo's real weakness is.

BTW: I have used Manga,Anime and additional content to back up all the things I have said. Those of you trying to say Susanoo and Amaterasu will kill em all etc are using no logic nor are you backing up what you say.
To conclude, you have been beaten entirely. Evidence from Naruto Sources>>>>anything you guys say.

I used evidence to back my statements,thus I win.

 

[Ambriel]

What's enton?

We were not talking about chidori. Just look the image we were discussing for. I'm talking about the chidori nagashi, that this level of raiton can't kill Kakashi. Of course if Sasuke lands a chidori on vital point, it will kill Kakashi, but it's the same case if Kakashi lands a raikiri on Sasuke.

Also, i don't know how you can see Sasuke better at raiton. His chidori is only a A-rank jutsu when raikiri is a S-rank jutsu. Just that shows that Kakashis is better.

About the number of attacks, Sasuke has:
- Chidori nagashi.
- chidori
- raiton blade

Kakashi:
- chidori
- raikiri
- double raikiri
- chain lightning
- lightning wolf

His genjutsu lacks of power. Danzo said that. He cant even maintain a tsukiyomi during 1second. Kakashi in FG resists a little bit against a tsukiyomi from Itachi before he collapsed and now his Sharingan is more powerful than before. He has MS. Sasuke can't put Kakashi under a genjutsu when he lacks of control. Even Danzo managed to go through it.

Thats enton when he can manipulate his black flame to cover his susanoo

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Sasuke raiton is better
Kirin
Chidori
Chidori Current
Chidori Senbon
Chidori Sharp Spear
Sword of Kusanagi: Chidori Katana.

Sasuke put danzo in a weak genjutsu to confirm he could fall for it

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[Rafeal brown]

Itachi has sharingan but he didn't see when the clone of Kakashi lands the attack when Kakashi fought Itachi 30% of chakra. He didn't even know that was a clone. He didn't know the real Kakashi was hiding underground. Do you really think Kakashi will attack without thinking?

Wtf? Did you just compare a 30% clone itachi to ems sasuke?? Seriously you deserve a -rep for that 0_o again take that back right now and i mean it... If sasuke could see the deidara's mines underground then it makes sense that he sasuke could see kakashi as well, your only argument as to how kakashi will get around susanoo was his "underground" attack which i say will be countered easily by sasuke's chidori nagash. So what's your point?

 

[Bogard]

Sasuke raiton is better
Kirin
Chidori
Chidori Current
Chidori Senbon
Chidori Sharp Spear
Sword of Kusanagi: Chidori Katana.

I don't count Kirin when i talk of jutsu because Sasuke can't produce it himself. It comes from nature. Also, i don't know what you call "Chidori current". Maybe i've forgotten, so if you have some images it could be cool

I also don't count Sword kusanagi as a jutsu, because it's not a jutsu. He only use chidori in a blade. And Kakashi can also do it. He did it with Zabuzas blade. Or i could have count it as a jutsu, but i didn't because for me it's only a chidori/raikiri in a blade.

Sasuke put danzo in a weak genjutsu to confirm he could fall for it

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I don't understand what you are talking about here.

 

[Unorthodox]

sasuke wins read my older post

 

[Bogard]

Wtf? Did you just compare a 30% clone itachi to ems sasuke?? Seriously you deserve a -rep for that 0_o again take that back right now and i mean it... If sasuke could see the deidara's mines underground then it makes sense that he sasuke could see kakashi as well, your only argument as to how kakashi will get around susanoo was his "underground" attack which i say will be countered easily by sasuke's chidori nagash. So what's your point?

Where have i compared Itachi 30% of chakra with EMS Sasuke? :shrug:
You are the one talking about that because Sasuke has the sharingan, he will see Kakashi underground and reach him. But i'm only showing you that sharingan don't do everything. Itachi also had the sharingan and he didn't see the clone of Kakashi coming at all, he didn't even know it was a clone, he didn't know the original was underground.

So don't think that if Kakashi hide underground and attack with a clone like he did with Itachi, Sasuke will know it.

 

[Ambriel]

I don't count Kirin awhen i talk of jutsu because Sasuke can't produce it himself. It comes from nature. Also, i don't know what you call "Chidori current". Maybe i've forgotten, so if you have some images it could be cool

I also don't count Sword kusanagi as a jutsu, because it's not a jutsu. He only use chidori in a blade. And Kakashi can also do it. He did it with Zabuzas blade. Or i could have count it as a jutsu, but i didn't because for me it's only a chidori/raikiri in a blade.


I don't understand what you are talking about here.

Stil its sasuke abilities and you cant discount them. As for chidori current here it is

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when you said sasuke genjutsu was weak for the last part, he meant to put danzo in a weak genjutsu

 

[Rafeal brown]

Where have i compared Itachi 30% of chakra with EMS Sasuke? :shrug:
You are the one talking about that because Sasuke has the sharingan, he will see Kakashi underground and reach him. But i'm only showing you that sharingan don't do everything. Itachi also had the sharingan and he didn't see the clone of Kakashi coming at all, he didn't even know it was a clone, he didn't know the original was underground.

So don't think that if Kakashi hide underground and attack with a clone like he did with Itachi, Sasuke will know it.

okay if you say so but be more specific next time and my arguments still stands that underground attacks of that level won't work on sasuke... Except you have another point of view??

 

[Bogard]

Stil its sasuke abilities and you cant discount them. As for chidori current here it is

The problem is that kirin come from nature. It's not a jutsu that Sasuke can cast at any moment. It depend on wheater. For the chidori current on your image i don't even see a name. Also it's only a chidori he used on the ground. That's not a jutsu.
For me, Sasuke only has:
- Chidori
- Chidori Senbon
- Chidori Sharp Spear
and if you want, we can also add
- Kirin
- Chidori Sharp Spear

But Kakashi has:
- chidori
- raikiri
- double raikiri
- chain lightning
- lightning wolf
- Raiton kage bunshin.
- Zabuzas blade Raikiri

But even with that, Kakashi has more lightning jutsus

when you said sasuke genjutsu was weak for the last part, he meant to put danzo in a weak genjutsu

And it's weak. Danzo and Tobi said that. It's only that Sasuke saw that even if he can only maintain tsukiyomi for 1second, he can take advantage of that, but Sasuke really sucks in genjutsu.

Edit: I have even forgotten raiton kage bunshin as a raiton jutsu for Kakashi.

 

[Bogard]

okay if you say so but be more specific next time and my arguments still stands that underground attacks of that level won't work on sasuke... Except you have another point of view??

We are talking about a surprise attack. To do chidori nagashi, Sasuke must be prepared for it. Also, as i said Chidori nagashi can't kill kakashi coz the level of raiton is not powerful enough. Kakashi can contain raiton jutsus like here:

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He has also a raiton kage bunshin. If he use the raiton kage bunshin to attack Sasuke and that Sasuke hurts him, he is the one who risks to be paralyse for a moment.

 

[Ambriel]

The problem is that kirin come from nature. It's not a jutsu that Sasuke can cast at any moment. It depend on wheater. For the chidori current on your image i don't even see a name. Also it's only a chidori he used on the ground. That's not a jutsu.
For me, Sasuke only has:
- Chidori
- Chidori Senbon
- Chidori Sharp Spear
and if you want, we can also add
- Kirin
- Chidori Sharp Spear

But Kakashi has:
- chidori
- raikiri
- double raikiri
- chain lightning
- lightning wolf
- Zabuzas blade Raikiri

But even with that, Kakashi has more lightning jutsus


And it's weak. Danzo and Tobi said that. It's only that Sasuke saw that even if he can only maintain tsukiyomi for 1second, he can take advantage of that, but Sasuke really sucks in genjutsu.

Haha who cares what u think sasuke jutsus are fact is what I listed he can do them so they his jutsu

Sasuke is good in genjutsu he just not better than itachi. Read what tobi said he put danzo ina wek genjutsu on purpose

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[Rafeal brown]

The problem is that kirin come from nature. It's not a jutsu that Sasuke can cast at any moment. It depend on wheater. For the chidori current on your image i don't even see a name. Also it's only a chidori he used on the ground. That's not a jutsu.
For me, Sasuke only has:
- Chidori
- Chidori Senbon
- Chidori Sharp Spear
and if you want, we can also add
- Kirin
- Chidori Sharp Spear

But Kakashi has:
- chidori
- raikiri
- double raikiri
- chain lightning
- lightning wolf
- Zabuzas blade Raikiri

But even with that, Kakashi has more lightning jutsus


And it's weak. Danzo and Tobi said that. It's only that Sasuke saw that even if he can only maintain tsukiyomi for 1second, he can take advantage of that, but Sasuke really sucks in genjutsu.

Sasuke's genjutsu is by no means weak, where did you get that from?? Just because it's weak compared to itachi's doesn't make it weak... Sasuke's creativity with genjutsu is quite impressive as well, if he can fool danzo and deidara with it then he can do the same to gaara
Quality>>quantity
kirin is easily the most powerful lightning base jutsu in the manga, and that puts sasuke above kakashi in the use of lightning in the bingo book xd

 

[Bogard]

Sasuke is good in genjutsu he just not better than itachi. Read what tobi said he put danzo ina wek genjutsu on purpose

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Yes he said it, but it's only because Sasuke can't cast Tsukiyomi for more than 1second. He said that before. Anyway i don't think his tsukiyomi will work against Kakashi. As i said in FG, Kakashi even withstand a little bit against the strong tsukiyomi of Itachi(72h in 1sec) and continue to talk a bit before he collapsed. Sasukes tsukiyomi is far weaker than the one against he withstood in FG and his sharingan is far stronger(he has MS).

So i don't believe that, sorry.

kirin is easily the most powerful lightning base jutsu in the manga, and that puts sasuke above kakashi in the use of lightning in the bingo book xd

As i said, Kirin is not a jutsu that Sasuke can cast on his own. It comes from nature. So that can't be use to tell his use of lightning is above kakashis. It's totally wrong.

Sasuke did a great job to imagine to use the great and amasing power of nature with this jutsu but in use of regular lightning Kakashi is far more above.

 

[Blaze Release]

Are people still saying gaara blocked amaterasu and gaara pulled madara out of susano by himself :sy:.

Anyway ems sasuke high difficulty

 

[Ambriel]

Yes he said it, but it's only because Sasuke can't cast Tsukiyomi for more than 1second. He said that before. Anyway i don't think his tsukiyomi will work against Kakashi. As i said in FG, Kakashi even withstand a little bit against the strong tsukiyomi of Itachi(72h in 1sec) and continue to talk a bit before he collapsed. Sasukes tsukiyomi is far weaker than the one against he withstood in FG and his sharingan is far stronger(he has MS).

So i don't believe that, sorry.

IT doesnt have to be one second kakashi will still fall for genjutsu and what does fg mean

 

[Bogard]

IT doesnt have to be one second kakashi will still fall for genjutsu and what does fg mean

Ok if you think so, i can't change your mine. Me i don't. Or i could even say that Kakashi could cast a genjutsu on Sasuke for 1second and he will fall for it :scorps:
And FG means first gen

PS: Why are we even comparing only Kakashi with Sasuke?? Gaara is also there

 

[BlackDude]

Are people still saying gaara blocked amaterasu and gaara pulled madara out of susano by himself :sy:.

Anyway ems sasuke high difficulty

I agree

This shouldnt even be a debate but idiotic Gaara and Kakashi fans wont admit Sasuke would own them.